LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA

Thursday, April 14, 1994

 

The House met at 1:30 p.m.

 

PRAYERS

 

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

 

PRESENTING PETITIONS

 

Curran Contract Cancellation and

Pharmacare and Home Care Reinstatement

 

Mr. John Plohman (Dauphin):  Mr. Speaker, I beg to present the petition of Sam Voisey, Sheila Beyko, Charles Zimmerman and others requesting the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba to urge the Premier (Mr. Filmon) to personally step in and order the cancellation of the Connie Curran contract and consider cancelling the recent cuts to the Pharmacare and Home Care programs.

 

READING AND RECEIVING PETITIONS

 

Curran Contract Cancellation and

Pharmacare and Home Care Reinstatement

 

Mr. Speaker:  I have reviewed the petition of the honourable member (Ms. Cerilli).  It complies with the privileges and the practices of the House and complies with the rules.  Is it the will of the House to have the petition read? [agreed]

 

Mr. Clerk (William Remnant):  The petition of the undersigned citizens of the Province of Manitoba, humbly sheweth that:

 

          WHEREAS the Manitoba government has repeatedly broken promises to support the Pharmacare program and has in fact cut benefits and increased deductibles far above the inflation rate; and

 

          WHEREAS the Pharmacare program was brought in by the NDP as a preventative program which keeps people out of costly hospital beds and institutions; and

 

          WHEREAS rather than cutting benefits and increasing deductibles the provincial government should be demanding the federal government cancel recent cuts to generic drugs that occurred under the Drug Patent Act; and

 

          WHEREAS at the same time Manitoba government has also cut home care and implemented user fees; and

 

          WHEREAS the Manitoba government is giving an American health care consultant over $4 million to implement further cuts in health care.

 

          WHEREFORE your petitioners humbly pray that the Legislative Assembly urge the Premier to personally step in and order the cancellation of the Connie Curran contract; and consider cancelling the recent cuts to the Pharmacare and Home Care programs.

 

Mr. Speaker:  I have reviewed the petition of the honourable member (Mr. Schellenberg).  It complies with the privileges and the practices of the House and complies with the rules.  Is it the will of the House to have the petition read?

 

Some Honourable Members:  Dispense.

 

Mr. Speaker:  Dispense.

 

The petition of the undersigned citizens of the Province of Manitoba, humbly sheweth that:

 

WHEREAS the Manitoba government has repeatedly broken promises to support the Pharmacare program and has in fact cut benefits and increased deductibles far above the inflation rate; and

 

WHEREAS the Pharmacare program was brought in by the NDP as a preventative program which keeps people out of costly hospital beds and institutions; and

 

WHEREAS rather than cutting benefits and increasing deductibles the provincial government should be demanding the federal government cancel recent cuts to generic drugs that occurred under the Drug Patent Act; and

 

WHEREAS at the same time Manitoba government has also cut home care and implemented user fees; and

 

WHEREAS the Manitoba government is giving an American health care consultant over $4 million to implement further cuts in health care.

 

WHEREFORE your petitioners humbly pray that the Legislative Assembly urge the Premier to personally step in and order the cancellation of the Connie Curran contract; and consider cancelling the recent cuts to the Pharmacare and Home Care programs.

 

APM Incorporated Remuneration and

Pharmacare and Home Care Reinstatement

 

Mr. Speaker:  I have reviewed the petition of the honourable member (Mr. Dewar).  It complies with the privileges and the practices of the House and complies with the rules.  Is it the will of the House to have the petition read?

 

Some Honourable Members:  Dispense.

 

Mr. Speaker:  Dispense.

 

The petition of the undersigned citizens of the Province of Manitoba, humbly sheweth that:

 

WHEREAS the Manitoba government has repeatedly broken promises to support the Pharmacare program and has in fact cut benefits and increased deductibles far above the inflation rate; and

 

WHEREAS the Pharmacare program was brought in by the NDP as a preventative program which keeps people out of costly hospital beds and institutions; and

 

WHEREAS rather than cutting benefits and increasing deductibles the provincial government should be demanding the federal government cancel recent cuts to generic drugs that occurred under the Drug Patent Act; and

 

WHEREAS at the same time Manitoba government has also cut home care and implemented user fees; and

 

WHEREAS the Manitoba government paid an American health care consultant over $4 million to implement further cuts in health care.

 

WHEREFORE your petitioners humbly pray that the Legislative Assembly urge the Premier to personally step in and order the repayment of the $4 million paid to Connie Curran and her firm APM Inc. and consider cancelling the recent cuts to the Pharmacare and Home Care programs.

 

TABLING OF REPORTS

 

Hon. Eric Stefanson (Minister of Finance):  Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to table the Annual Report of the Department of Finance for 1992‑93.

 

Hon. Jim Ernst (Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs):  Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to table the Residential Tenancies Commission Annual Report, 1992.

 

Introduction of Guests

 

Mr. Speaker:  Prior to Oral Questions, may I direct the attention of honourable members to the gallery where we have with us this afternoon from Churchill High School, twenty‑five Grade 9 students under the direction of Ms. Terri Gartner.  This school is located in the constituency of the honourable member for Osborne (Ms. McCormick).

 

          On behalf of all honourable members, I would like to welcome you here this afternoon.

 

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ORAL QUESTION PERIOD

 

Grain Exports

U.S. Cap

 

Mr. Gary Doer (Leader of the Opposition):  Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Premier.

 

          At a recent agricultural ministers' meeting the provincial governments were unanimous in their recommendation to the federal government to hold firm against the unilateral threats of the United States to limit access of wheat producer exports to the United States.

 

          Over the last 36 hours we have heard various reports of a potential agreement by Canada to cap the exports to the United States.  Of course, producers in Manitoba and farm organizations are very concerned that on the one hand we allegedly have access to the United States under trade agreements, and on the other hand we have a capping put in place and agreed to by the Canadian government.

 

          I would like to ask the Premier:  Is there a cap that has been agreed to by the federal government, contrary to the advice from provinces, and what will that cap be in terms of its impact on producers in western Canada and in Manitoba?

 

Hon. Gary Filmon (Premier):  Mr. Speaker, I am subject to the same news reports as the Leader of the Opposition has received.  All of my colleagues, particularly the Minister of Agriculture (Mr. Enns) and I, are equally concerned.

 

          We, through the Minister of Agriculture, have urged very strongly the federal minister Mr. Goodale not to give in on the kinds of proposals that the Americans are making, to absolutely hold firm and to be as tough as possible.  In fact, the Minister of Agriculture, this morning, after hearing those same reports, wrote a very strongly worded letter to the federal Minister of Agriculture of which I believe the final statement is:  No deal is better than a bad deal, Mr. Minister.

 

Mr. Doer:  Mr. Speaker, I would agree with the Premier that no deal is better than a bad deal.  I think‑‑[interjection] When the member for Inkster (Mr. Lamoureux) is finished.  He may not care about‑‑there may not be many farmers in Inkster, but many members in this Chamber represent producers all across this province.  Mr. Speaker‑‑[interjection]

 

Mr. Speaker:  Order, please.  The honourable Leader of the official opposition.

 

Mr. Doer:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  The provincial ministers of all political stripes have recommended that we not agree to any deal with the United States, and we not agree to the unilateral threats, and have suggested that if we cannot reach any kind of agreement on the existing trade agreements, we look at our own strong stand against the Americans in terms of their imports into our jurisdictions.

 

          Given that the Minister of Agriculture seems to have not taken the advice of the provinces, would the Premier undertake to take this issue to the Prime Minister?  If we cannot succeed with the federal agricultural minister, would the Premier look at going directly to the Prime Minister and look at working with his other western Canadian colleagues?

 

          As the Premier has indicated, we agree, a bad deal is not worth it, Mr. Speaker, and I would urge the Premier to move this up to the Prime Minister's level before it is too late.

 

Mr. Filmon:  Mr. Speaker, as I say, the letter was fired off this morning by our Minister of Agriculture (Mr. Enns).  We will judge by the response or lack of response that we may get from the federal government whether or not the matter needs to be taken a step higher, but make no mistake that we will not hesitate to raise this issue to the Prime Minister directly, as we did even earlier this year when the Deputy Premier wrote directly to the Prime Minister about the issue of the grain blockage, work stoppages on the West Coast that were blocking the movement of grain.

 

Mr. Doer:  Mr. Speaker, I would ask the Premier:  Has he been in touch with the other western Canadian Premiers dealing with this issue?  Can we have, as we had in 1991, I believe, a co‑ordinated effort from all three prairie provinces to try to get support for the third line of defence when it was totally deficient in terms of the hardships on western Canadian producers?  Do we have a co‑ordinated strategy with the Premiers at the Premiers level to add some strength to the issue of access and fairness?

 

          A cap on an allegedly Free Trade Agreement is absolutely contrary to what everybody believed would be the rights of Canadians under that agreement, Mr. Speaker, and I would ask the Premier, have we utilized the offices of the other Premiers in this regard?

 

Mr. Filmon:  Mr. Speaker, as the minister‑‑not the minister‑‑

 

An Honourable Member:  Hey, give me 35 days.

 

Mr. Filmon:  Not on your life.

 

          Mr. Speaker, as the member for Concordia has pointed out, this is an issue that the provincial Ministers of Agriculture have taken a very strong stand on, and the prairie provinces were indeed united in their views expressed on this.  Our Minister of Agriculture (Mr. Enns) will work with his colleagues to try and impress upon the federal government the importance of this issue, the importance not to give in to a bad deal.

 

          I will not hesitate to enlist the support and the participation of my colleague Premiers should this matter not be resolved to our satisfaction among the Ministers of Agriculture, Mr. Speaker.

 

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Post‑Secondary Education

Funding

 

Mr. Jerry Storie (Flin Flon):  Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Premier.

 

          Over the past couple of days the public has learned that the government, and through the Minister of Education and Training (Mr. Manness), has shared what the universities will be allocated in the coming budget.  Traditionally, that information has been made public in January or February of the year so that not only the university presidents but the students, the staff, the public and the Legislature will be aware of what allocation and what priority the government places on post‑secondary education.

 

          Can the First Minister now tell this House what he has been telling the university presidents?  How many millions of dollars are going to be cut from university budgets?  How many hundreds of jobs are going to be lost at the universities, or can he give us some more information on it?

 

Hon. Gary Filmon (Premier):  Mr. Speaker, I have not been telling the university presidents anything.  That is a matter for the member to discuss with the Minister of Education and he will make the information known, as it has been in the past, in conjunction with the budget.

 

Mr. Storie:  Mr. Speaker, this raises a matter of privilege.  This is not secret budget information or the Minister of Finance (Mr. Stefanson) would have been obliged to keep it secret, as is most budget information.  This is public information and the university staff and the students who are going to be affected by this and the public and this Legislature have a right to know.

 

          Will the First Minister, now, instruct the Minister of Education and Training to tell this House and tell the public what budget is being allocated to universities?  How many millions are being cut?  How many hundreds of jobs are going to be cut again at our universities?

 

Mr. Filmon:  Mr. Speaker, the kind of fearmongering that the member puts forth is really inappropriate, and to talk about hundreds of jobs, layoffs, cutbacks and all those kinds of things is a typical New Democratic smarmy, sleazy trick.

 

Mr. Storie:  Well, those smarmists, Mr. Speaker, also include the vice‑president of administration at the University of Manitoba, who said today in an interview that the layoffs might number 100 or more in various kinds of positions, perhaps as many as 300 or 400.  That is at one university.

 

          Mr. Speaker, if that is being smarmy, asking for public information, information for which there is no excuse for secrecy, which has been made public on every other occasion, my question is what is the First Minister hiding?  What is he hiding from the public?  What is he hiding from the students at the university?  Why will he not come clean?  Will he instruct his minister to do so?

 

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Mr. Filmon:  Mr. Speaker, universities like all groups in society have to live within their means.  Universities have decisions to make.  They have management and administration, and they have people working for them.  Universities have their goals and objectives that they want to achieve and they do so knowing exactly the constraints that are on them, constraints that are on every government in Canada.  This is not a society in which people can make all sorts of demands and just simply say, pay the cheque, raise the taxes, pay the cheque.

 

          Those matters are matters that we take seriously.  We do not take them as just simply an opportunity for political cheap tricks in Question Period.  We take our responsibilities seriously.

 

          The Minister of Education and Training (Mr. Manness), in conjunction with his responsibilities as minister, will continue to work with the universities for the best opportunity that they have to work towards the betterment of the universities.

 

Winnipeg Arena

Burns Committee Report

 

Mr. Paul Edwards (Leader of the Second Opposition):  Mr. Speaker, on December 15 of last year, the mayor of Winnipeg and this Premier appointed the Burns committee to look into what private investors were willing to come forward to invest in a new arena.

 

          That committee had a mandate to report by the end of March.  We are two weeks past the end of that mandate.

 

          My question today to the Premier is:  Can the Premier indicate what the problem is, if he knows, and if there is no problem, or what the current timetable for that report coming down and being made public in this Legislature is currently?

 

Hon. Gary Filmon (Premier):  Mr. Speaker, I can inform the Leader of the Liberal Party that I have only been told by a representative of the Burns committee that they will be somewhat delayed in providing us with the information that we have requested and that it will be brought to us as soon as it is possible to do so.

 

Funding Options

 

Mr. Paul Edwards (Leader of the Second Opposition):  Mr. Speaker, back on September 15, some months ago, I and our senior federal minister now in Manitoba suggested a community bond issue as a way to raise private funds to fund a new arena as an alternative to taxpayers' dollars.

 

          Mr. Speaker, to my knowledge to date, the Premier has not made a comment on that idea.

 

          I wonder if in an effort to perhaps help the Burns committee, they seem to be having some difficulty given that they have not met their original timetable.

 

          Is the Premier today prepared to indicate whether or not he would look positively on a suggestion of a community bond issue, spreading the ownership of the team and raising money other than through taxation initiatives, to recruit private investment from as large a number of Manitobans as possible?

 

Hon. Gary Filmon (Premier):  Mr. Speaker, we have given the mandate to the Burns committee to examine any and all alternatives, and I know that the Burns committee will have seen the comments of the Leader of the Liberal Party and the federal minister Mr. Axworthy on that particular issue.

 

          I am sure that they will take that into consideration as they review all of the possible alternatives to come up with the best proposal that they believe is available to finance the Jets and an arena facility.

 

Mr. Edwards:  Mr. Speaker, I must add that I think a positive indication from the Premier that that would be an issue he would be receptive to would be helpful to that committee.

 

National Hockey League

Salary Cap

 

Mr. Paul Edwards (Leader of the Second Opposition):  I conclude by asking the Premier:  Finally, based on the statement in the Mauro report at page 33, that all of this discussion about an arena may be moot if there is no salary cap in the NHL, and that is in his report, and given that the Premier has recently met with the chief commissioner, Mr. Bettman, of the NHL, can he indicate to this House whether or not there is any hope of a salary cap and perhaps put to rest this whole issue of whether or not we should be even looking at ways to finance an arena if in fact there is no salary cap?

 

          Does he agree with Mr. Mauro that in fact that is the first step, and can he give us any assurance that is at all likely to occur?

 

Hon. Gary Filmon (Premier):  Mr. Speaker, I have agreed publicly with Mr. Mauro's assessment and analysis of the need for a salary cap and/or preferably as well a revenue‑sharing agreement among the various franchises of the NHL.

 

          Both of those matters I think are fundamental to the long‑term viability, not only of a franchise in Winnipeg, but probably at least eight of the smaller market franchises in the NHL.  That is information, I might say, that is supported by Mr. Bettman and others who are vitally involved with the league.

 

          In saying that, Mr. Bettman indicated some hope, but obviously he was not in a position to give any assurance at the present time.

 

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Grain Exports

U.S. Cap

 

Mr. Jack Penner (Emerson):  Mr. Speaker, in light of the fact that it is apparent, according to the article in the Toronto Globe and Mail this morning, that the federal Minister of Agriculture is willing to sell out the interest of the western Canadian grain farmers and, it appears, in support of eastern farmers' positions, and it is apparent that the Americans are continuing, even though we have had discussions on GATT, NAFTA and other trade agreements, to subsidize exports of their wheat to the point of lowering their stocks internally and driving up prices to allow Canadians to ship into the United States at a better price‑‑in light of all this and in ensuring that the cap that is being discussed now is going to be higher or lower than what is currently being exported, what is the Minister of Agriculture (Mr. Enns) doing beyond writing a letter to the Minister of Agriculture demanding that the agreements that are in place stay in place in support of the western Canadian farmers?

 

Hon. Harry Enns (Minister of Agriculture):  Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the comments of the First Minister (Mr. Filmon) in this regard and really that says it all.

 

          I do want to just confirm the seriousness of what we are talking about.  It is my understanding from grain officials that we have probably exported more than is currently being considered as the cap in this year already, which means that if this should proceed, the border would effectively be sealed off to the Manitoba farmers immediately.

 

          I might just further add, by circumstance I had in my office at eleven o'clock the American consul general, regrettably now resident in Calgary.  Some of you will recall he used to be resident in our fair city of Winnipeg and I was able to transmit directly through the consul general the concerns that the Province of Manitoba has, indeed the western provinces have on this matter.

 

          Might I, while on my feet, Mr. Speaker, table the letter that the first minister referred to that was sent to Mr. Goodale this morning.

 

Seven Oaks General Hospital

Funding

 

Mr. Dave Chomiak (Kildonan):  Mr. Speaker, we were told that health care reform was on hold, but the Connie Curran gravy train continued.  We were told there was a pause, and home care cuts continued.  We were told that hospital cuts were on hold, but there are cuts at St. Boniface and Health Sciences Centre.

 

          Will the minister confirm that Seven Oaks Hospital has been told to cut $6,298,200 from its budget, which in fact amounts to more than 10 percent?

 

Hon. James McCrae (Minister of Health):  Mr. Speaker, the honourable member raises a topic similar to the one raised yesterday by the honourable member for Brandon East (Mr. Leonard Evans) when he raised questions about Brandon General Hospital.  The executive director of Brandon General Hospital has very clearly repudiated what the honourable member for Brandon East has had to say, as I suspect those involved in the delivery of health services in our hospitals would do to the honourable member for Kildonan as well.

 

          Mr. Speaker, the honourable member for Kildonan, his health policy is the status quo, or perhaps go back to those halcyon days of the '70s and '80s when government revenues were rising very quickly and very substantially and government spending on the part of his colleagues of that day was falling well behind.  The honourable member for Brandon East acknowledged yesterday and made a confession with respect to the first permanent bed cuts in 1987 being the responsibility of himself and his colleagues.

 

          Mr. Speaker, as we look forward to the future and providing quality health care for Manitobans, hospital administrators will indeed have a role to play as will the Department of Health.

 

Mr. Chomiak:  Mr. Speaker, I think that is called ducking the issue.

 

Bed Closures

 

Mr. Dave Chomiak (Kildonan):  Will the minister confirm that Seven Oaks Hospital has been given permission from his department to permanently close 30 surgical beds?

 

Hon. James McCrae (Minister of Health):  Mr. Speaker, at this point, what we have been doing with the hospitals is examining multiyear projections and how we can live within budgets in the future.  We are asking hospitals in Manitoba to provide us with their plans and proposals as to how they can address the issue of shorter lengths of stay, shorter average lengths of stay, and how to deal with the increased capacity in our hospitals and to make those hospitals proper centres of health care so that, combined with the services we are providing and will be providing in the community, we can deliver the best product possible to the people of Manitoba.

 

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Funding

 

Mr. Dave Chomiak (Kildonan):  Mr. Speaker, can the minister confirm that these discussions about multiyear budgets is really the 10 percent cut to all hospital budgets across the province, that the minister said in the fall was on hold, and we see at St. Boniface and Health Sciences Centre, at Brandon and at Seven Oaks now is not on hold?  Can the minister confirm that in fact those budget cuts are in effect?  Is that not ironic considering the Manitoba Lotteries Corporation is advertising about all the good money going into our health care system on TV?

 

Hon. James McCrae (Minister of Health):  What we need to put on hold, Mr. Speaker, is the useless rhetoric brought into this Chamber and elsewhere by people who are still living in a time and an era‑‑

 

Mr. Speaker:  Order, please.

 

Point of Order

 

Mr. Steve Ashton (Opposition House Leader):  Mr. Speaker, Beauchesne's Citation 417 is very clear:  "Answers to questions should be as brief as possible, deal with the matter raised and should not provoke debate."

 

          I understand that our rules also say that ministers do not have to answer questions and certainly the minister is putting that rule into practice, but if he wants to debate and not answer questions we have the throne speech, we have the budget.  I would prefer an answer instead.

 

Mr. Speaker:  Order, please.  The honourable member did not have a point of order.  I believe the honourable minister was attempting to answer the question.

 

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Mr. McCrae:  Mr. Speaker, I did not mean to break any rules or to provoke any debate.  This is a very serious matter the honourable member raises, but the honourable members are putting forward the proposition that the only way to proceed is to leave things as they are.  Leaving things as they are will choke our health care system till we do not have one anymore.

 

          What I am here to try to build and rebuild is a health care system that we can have for this generation and so that my kids and yours and the children of the honourable member for Kildonan (Mr. Chomiak) can have a health care system, too.  It is not good enough to spend it all now and have nothing for the future.

 

Forestry Industry

Independent Loggers

 

Ms. Rosann Wowchuk (Swan River):  Mr. Speaker, people from the Swan River area are hopeful that after six years of bungling by this government, we are finally seeing jobs in the logging and the forestry industry increase.  However, people, such as the little loggers, are being shafted as they were in the Repap deal.

 

          I want to ask the minister responsible why this government is not responding to the concerns of little loggers who have established markets and are having difficulty in getting a wood supply, due to the policies of this government who first killed the Pennco deal and then gave away the cutting rights under Repap.

 

Hon. Albert Driedger (Minister of Natural Resources):  Mr. Speaker, I must express a little regret at the tone of the question here because over the last number of months I have had the occasion to personally speak with the member who is representing Swan River as well as the operators from that area, and I have to say that there has been an increase in the quota holders' allocations for the next two years.  We have given the assurance and commitment to the permit holders that we will be looking after their requirements while we deal with the bigger picture.

 

          So I have given that assurance to the member as well as to the operators out there.  Just because the member went out yesterday together with her Leader and did a bit of an upcharge, I feel a little disappointed that the context of the question is coming forward this way.

 

Ms. Wowchuk:  Mr. Speaker, I recognize that the minister has responded, but he has not spoken to the loggers.  They are wanting answers.  Since, to the existing independent loggers who run about 18 sawmills and create about 80 jobs, this is very important, we want assurances that they will continue to operate, that they will have a wood supply and they will not be shafted like they will in the Repap deal.

 

          When will we know that these people will be guaranteed a wood supply and will be continued to operate alongside the other operation?

 

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Mr. Driedger:  Well, Mr. Speaker, I gave that personal assurance to the member as well as to the operators when I met with them.  As I said before, we have had an increase in the quota holders, and we have to make sure we know what we are talking about because we have the quota allocations which have been there all the time and have been honoured and we have the permit holders which basically from time to time get a permit.

 

          I also want to indicate that two years ago there was very little interest in the poplar and the ash, which basically were considered useless wood till two years ago.  This is basically what the whole L.P., the Louisiana Pacific deal is about, dealing with the hardwoods which basically is your poplar wood.  I have given the assurance to the operators that we will deal with them on our permit basis until the whole issue with Louisiana Pacific is resolved.

 

          I want to assure the member here, as well as all members, that by the time this deal is completed, and if it is completed, the operators in Swan River will not know where to go they will be so busy trying to provide the sources of wood for the . . . .

 

Forestry Industry

Treaty Land Entitlements

 

Ms. Rosann Wowchuk (Swan River):  As long as they have the assurance that they can continue to operate their sawmills, that is what they are looking for.

 

          Mr. Speaker, I want to ask the Minister responsible for Native Affairs what steps he has taken to ensure that the bands in the Swan River area are treated more fairly than they were in the Repap deal.  Why has this government not met with the bands in the area to deal with the treaty land entitlements and traditional lands that will be impacted by this deal?

 

Hon. Darren Praznik (Minister responsible for Native Affairs):  Mr. Speaker, first of all, I say to the member we all appreciate the forest fires that she has had to put out in her own constituency in the last while, and she comes into this Chamber all of a sudden with a tremendous interest.

 

          I have to tell her that she makes accusations about the deal regarding Repap that are not correct, and in terms of treaty land entitlements, those issues are all in the process of negotiation.  I have to challenge her.  Does the member opposite want to see jobs in her community or not?

 

Churchill Airport

Emergency Response Services

 

Mr. Eric Robinson (Rupertsland):  My question is for the honourable First Minister (Mr. Filmon), who is responsible for federal‑provincial relations.

 

          The Churchill airport is well known internationally as being a vital airport for planes that sometimes run into difficulty.  Over the past few years several large planes have been forced to land at the airport in Churchill.  Given the increase in business due to the reactivation of the rocket range and the pending initiatives in Churchill, and the recent federal government's plans to eliminate emergency response services at that airport, will he contact the federal government and ask them not to cut this very important program?

 

Hon. Gary Filmon (Premier):  Mr. Speaker, I will take that question as notice.

 

Northern Airports

Funding

 

Mr. Eric Robinson (Rupertsland):  I want to thank the honourable First Minister for the response.

 

          As well, I would like to ask the honourable First Minister about a similar situation with northern airstrips and ask him to ask the minister to put holds on cuts to northern airports in this province.

 

Hon. Gary Filmon (Premier):  Mr. Speaker, I will take that question as notice as well.

 

Northern Airports

Funding

 

Mr. Eric Robinson (Rupertsland):  Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct my question, and perhaps I will get an answer from the minister responsible for airports in northern Manitoba.

 

          My question is:  Could the minister table in the House the complete list of cuts of northern airports such as Berens River, Gods Lake, St. Theresa Point, the Island Lake area, and the reason for the cuts?

 

Hon. Glen Findlay (Minister of Highways and Transportation):  Mr. Speaker, in terms of maintaining the airports, our initiative is to ensure that the airports are handled and operated in a safe fashion, and that is the bottom line in terms of addressing the staff issues with association with those airports.

 

          We have a bigger issue in the North through the Hudson Bay line, and we work hard to keep that open to serve the residents of the North.  We have represented the residents of the North in terms of VIA Rail in terms of what the federal government might do.

 

          Mr. Speaker, I might tell the members opposite that I went to the Hudson Bay Route Association the other day and the M.P. for the area, one Mr. Elijah Harper, did not show up.

 

Some Honourable Members:  Oh, oh.

 

Mr. Speaker:  Order, please.

 

Education System

Medical Services Report

 

Ms. Avis Gray (Crescentwood):  Mr. Speaker, with the restraints of resources we have felt in Education and the reining‑in of some of the home care services, the needs of the medically fragile children in schools is of a concern to us, to teachers and, of course, to their parents.

 

          We were told a year ago that a report with recommendations as to how to deal with these medically fragile children in the school system would be forthcoming from this government‑‑a committee of Health, Family Services and Education.

 

          I would ask the