LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF
Monday, April 19, 2004
The House met at 1:30 p.m.
PRAYERS
Mr. Kelvin Goertzen (Steinbach): Mr. Speaker, I rise today on a matter of privilege.
Mr. Speaker: Okay, the honourable member is rising on a matter of privilege.
Mr. Goertzen: Mr. Speaker, I do rise today on a very serious matter of privilege. Let me begin by recognizing that, in fact, there are a number of guests here today who have come to hear the presentation of the Budget, and it is certainly not my intention to unnecessarily delay that process. [interjection] Well, you know, members opposite do not think, I suppose, that a matter of privilege is important. I certainly do, and I am raising it on behalf of all Manitobans.
I realize that there are two criteria that need to be set out to prove a matter of privilege, the first being that it is raised at its earliest opportunity. This matter of privilege, Mr. Speaker, relates to comments that were made by the Minister of Labour (Ms. Allan) in this House during Question Period on Thursday of last week.
It was important, as a member, that I see the publication of Hansard to ensure that those comments could be verified. Having now seen those comments, Mr. Speaker, I raise this matter of privilege at the earliest opportunity.
The second point of course that must be shown, Mr. Speaker, is that a matter of privilege has presented a prima facie case. I would note that, in Thursday's Question Period, as previously said, the Minister of Labour, in response to a question that was raised from a member in the House regarding the existence of a project labour agreement in relation to the floodway expansion project said that there was nothing in writing.
In fact, if we are
reviewing
Not only are there details regarding this particular agreement, but they have been sent to federal members of Parliament, Mr. Speaker. So I find it astonishing that the minister can stand on one day and tell members of this House that there is nothing in writing in regard to an agreement, and yet only a couple of days later, presumably these comments were made on Friday for the Saturday edition, a day later the CEO of the authority would stand up and say that there are details that have been forwarded to federal members.
The CEO went on to say that there had been ongoing details. These details had been provided on a regular basis, so presumably they did not just start on the Friday. I note that the member of Parliament in question who has commented said that not only were details, I suppose, now being provided, but that a review would take place of the agreement. The comments were that the federal member of Parliament responsible would now be undertaking a review of an agreement. Well, of an agreement that is not in writing, Mr. Speaker, of an agreement that apparently does not exist according to this minister only a few short days before. The contradiction is extraordinary.
For weeks organizations, municipalities, senior levels of government and hundreds and thousands of Manitobans have raised concerns. [interjection] Well, you know, members opposite want to laugh about this matter and they do not think that this is particularly serious. Well, I challenge them to speak to their constituents, Mr. Speaker, because this is a very serious issue regarding a very serious project.
* (13:35)
One would think that on budget day, of all days, when we are dealing with a project that is $660 million, $700 million, that they would be concerned about misinformation regarding that expensive project that has been put on the books here by this Minister of Labour (Ms. Allan).
So the concerns have been raised and we have heard on varying days, some days it is a done deal, some days it is not a done deal. One day one minister says one thing. The next day another minister says something else. As a new member of this Legislature, Mr. Speaker, I would say that to do my job properly I value transparency, transparency from the information that is provided that we need to rely on from ministers opposite. I rely on a clear process being put forward and that proper information is brought forward by ministers of the Crown on a day-to-day basis.
So I submit, Mr. Speaker, that this wrong information that has been put forward by the minister, clearly wrong information, is a disservice to me as a member of the Legislature, prevents me from doing my job properly as a new member of the Legislature and it is a disservice to all Manitobans who want to know the facts about what is happening with this project.
I can imagine the disappointment that members of the public had, if they had the opportunity to hear Question Period or read the transcripts, to find the Minister of Labour one day saying that there is nothing in writing, that nothing exists, and then the next day opening up their newspaper to find out not only that something exists, but information has been flowing from the floodway authority or from the Government to the federal government on a daily or a weekly basis for some time and also, Mr. Speaker, that now an agreement was under review, an agreement that one day later previously apparently did not exist, according to the Minister of Labour.
Mr. Speaker, I am concerned. I am concerned that this Government simply does not have a handle on this important file. I am concerned that I have listened from day to day about the misinformation, the different directions that have been put forward by the Government, either within this House or outside of the House. I wonder what members of the public are left to believe. I wonder what members of this Legislature are left to believe.
This type of
misinformation brought forward by the Minister of Labour makes it very, very
difficult for me as a member of the Legislature to do my job. It impedes on my
ability to do the job that members of
I am very disappointed,
Mr. Speaker, to have to raise this
particular matter of privilege, but I feel that it is important, at its
earliest opportunity, to bring it forward, to bring this misinformation that
was put on the record by the Minister of Labour and then apparently corrected
by the CEO of the floodway authority the next day to light, because it is an
important issue. It is an issue that deals with finances. It is an issue that
deals with trust in government. It is an issue that deals with process and it
is an issue that deals with safety for citizens in
So, Mr. Speaker, I would move, seconded by the Member for Kirkfield Park (Mr. Murray), that the Minister of Labour issue to this House and to the people of Manitoba an apology for putting forward incorrect information regarding the existence of and details of a proposed master labour agreement in relation to the expansion of the floodway project, and that this matter be now referred to the Committee on Legislative Affairs and be reported to the House.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker: The honourable Government House Leader.
Before I recognize him, I would just like to remind the House that contributions at this time by honourable members are to be limited to strictly relevant comments as to whether the alleged matter of privilege has been raised at the earliest opportunity and whether a prima facie case has been established.
Hon. Gord Mackintosh (Government House Leader): Well, Mr. Speaker, our view is that this certainly is in no way a matter of privilege. I would simply remind members of the House, according to Beauchesne Citation 24, which has been used very often in this House: "The privileges of Parliament are rights which are absolutely necessary for the due execution of its powers."
Mr. Speaker, we go on in Beauchesne citations again, which are well-known to members opposite: A question of privilege ought rarely to come up in Parliament.
* (13:40)
Matters of privilege are indeed very serious, but what we have are allegations made by the member opposite relating to differences of opinion, allegations as to fact.
Now, Mr. Speaker, we have in this Legislature from time to time heard allegations that a member may have deliberately misled the House. Those are arguments that sometimes have been couched in terms of breaches of parliamentary privilege, but the member has not even so much as made that allegation in this case. The member's own words talk about misinformation or incorrect information. I would suggest, though, going one step further, that what we have here is simply some argument, some opinion and indeed I might just say using very rare moments of this Legislature to advance what seems to be a preoccupation of members opposite.
The member in Question Period said the following: The affected parties are at the table. There is nothing in writing. We will wait until we have an agreement from the affected parties. Mr. Speaker, that talks to the issue of a master labour agreement. Whether there is an agreement with the federal government as to funding is another matter.
I remind members opposite that the concerns about using matters of privilege in this House, as the Opposition has been wont to do, has been dealt with by the new rules, where we remind members at page 60, that a dispute arising between two members as to allegations of facts does not fulfil the conditions of parliamentary privilege. And not only that, in Beauchesne we are reminded a dispute arising between two members does not fulfil the conditions of parliamentary privilege. Finally, I will say, in Citation 31(3): "Statements made outside the House by a Member may not be used as the basis for question of privilege." We have also recognized in this House that matters arising outside of the House are not the basis of privilege.
I would conclude, Mr. Speaker, by saying that this is simply a political argument. It certainly is in no way either a point of order or a matter of privilege.
Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (
We have the Premier of our province, we have a minister of waterworks that are saying something in absolute–[interjection] Waterworks or Minister responsible for Water Stewardship. It does not change the fact. We have other ministers saying that there is–
Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.
Mr. Speaker: Order. I would like to take this opportunity to remind all honourable members that a matter of privilege and a point of order are very, very serious matters and we need to be able to hear what the member has to say. I ask the co-operation of all honourable members, please.
Mr. Lamoureux: Mr. Speaker, I will be brief. When I raised the question, there was a great deal of concern amongst Manitobans that all Manitobans have the right to be able to work on the extension of the floodway whether they belong to a union or they do not belong to a union, and that was the core of the question.
The answer that we received from the minister, I believe, denies us the privilege of having government providing transparent answers because you have the Premier (Mr. Doer) and another minister saying something completely opposite to what this minister is saying. What is the public to think, Mr. Speaker? There is a responsibility of government to be consistent and transparent in the answers that it is providing, and where they make mistakes, and Lord knows this Government makes mistakes, then to say that you have made a mistake and rectify and correct the record. The socialist attitude of the Government on this issue has put blinders, and they do not know where they are going on this issue. That is why we raised the issue with the Minister of Labour (Ms. Allan) to get involved. On the surface, after reading her answer, one would think that the Minister of Labour has not been involved in this issue.
* (13:45)
We would just indicate, put simply, that we do believe it is a matter of privilege and it is not a dispute of the facts. It is not a dispute of the facts; it is a matter of privilege. We would ask that we look in terms of how the minister–where it has been ruled in other jurisdictions, where it has been so blatantly misleading, where it has denied a privilege of a member of the Chamber.
With those few words, Mr. Speaker, we trust that you will report back. Thank you.
Mr. Speaker: The honourable Official Opposition House Leader, on privilege.
Mr. Leonard Derkach (Official Opposition House Leader): Just to add a few words to the words that have already been put on record with regard to this issue, Mr. Speaker. The Government House Leader (Mr. Mackintosh) stood in his place moments ago and said that this is just a matter of differing opinions.
There was a direct question asked of the Minister of Labour (Ms. Allan). Although we have seen the differing opinions from the Government on this matter between the Premier (Mr. Doer), the Minister responsible for Water (Mr. Ashton) and now the Minister of Labour, the questions that are being asked by this side of the House are serious ones. When a minister of the Crown says to the House and to Manitobans that there is no such agreement in place, there is nothing in writing, we, as members of this Legislature, have to take the minister at his or her word. But a day later, when we read in newspapers that other ministers, federal minister of the Crown as a matter of fact, an individual charged with the responsibility for this entire matter in the public of Manitoba, are now saying that there is an agreement in place and that agreement is being negotiated and elements of that agreement are being discussed, it is obvious that is not a matter of differing opinions. This is a matter of fact, and I submit that members of this Legislature were misled, misled grievously by the Minister of Labour and by the Government.
Mr. Speaker, for the Government to try to get around this is simply a matter of deceit, and we cannot have this in this Legislature. It is for that matter that the member from Steinbach raised the issue in this House. I raised it as a point of order. The member from Steinbach today raises it as a matter of privilege, and we look to you to rule on this matter and to expeditiously have this matter referred to the Committee on Legislative Affairs so it can be dealt with in a proper way. Thank you very much.
Mr. Speaker: On the matter of privilege, a matter of privilege is a very serious concern, so I am going to take this matter under advisement to consult with the authorities and I will return to the House with a ruling.
ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Proposed PLA–Floodway
Mr. Kelvin Goertzen (Steinbach): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.
These are the reasons for the petition:
The
The Premier of Manitoba plans to subject all work related to the project to a Project Labour Agreement (PLA).
The proposed PLA would force all employees on the project to belong to a union.
Approximately 95 percent
of heavy construction companies in
* (13:50)
Mr. Speaker, the Manitoba Heavy Construction Association has indicated that the forced unionization of all employees may increase the costs of the project by $65 million.
The chair of B.C.'s 2010
Construction Leaders Taskforce has stated, "Major industrial projects
built under project labour agreements from the energy sector in
Organizations including the Winnipeg Chamber of Commerce, the Canadian Taxpayers' Federation, the Manitoba Heavy Construction Association, the Canadian Federation of Independent Business, the Merit Contractors Association of Manitoba, the Winnipeg Construction Association, the Construction Association of Rural Manitoba and the Canadian Construction Association have publicly opposed the Premier's plan to turn the floodway expansion project into a union-only worksite.
Manitobans deserve an open and fair competition that protects taxpayers from unnecessary costs and respects workers' democratic choice.
Manitobans support the right of any company, both union and non-union, to participate in the expansion of the Red River Floodway.
We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manioba as follows:
To request the Premier of Manitoba to consider ending the Government's forced unionization plan of companies involved with the Red River Floodway expansion.
Tto request the Premier of Manitoba to consider entering into discussions with business, construction and labour groups to ensure any qualified company and worker, regardless of their union status, is afforded the opportunity to bid and work on the floodway expansion project.
Signed by: Darrel Penner, Reg Penner, John Kroeker and others.
Mr. Speaker: In accordance with our Rule 132(6), when a petition is read it is deemed to be received by the House.
Minimum Sitting Days for
Legislative Assembly
Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (
The background to this petition is as follows:
The Manitoba Legislature sat for only 37 days in 2003.
Manitobans expect their Government to be accountable, and the number of sitting days has a direct impact on the issue of public accountability.
Manitobans expect their elected officials to be provided the opportunity to be able to hold the Government accountable.
The Legislative Assembly provides the best forum for all MLAs to debate and ask questions of the Government, and it is critical that all MLAs be provided the time needed in order for them to cover constituent and party duties.
Establishing a minimum number of sitting days could prevent the government of the day from limiting the rights of opposition members from being able to ask questions.
We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:
To request the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba to consider recognizing the need to sit for a minimum of 80 days in any given calendar year.
Signed by: Nestor Gamboa, Susana Gamboa and Virginia Gamboa.
Mr. Speaker: In accordance with our Rule 132(6), when a petition is read it is deemed to be received by the House.
Introduction of Guests
Mr. Speaker: Prior to Oral Questions, I would like to draw the attention of all honourable members to the loge to my right. We have with us Muriel Smith, who is a former Member for Osborne.
Also in the loge to my left we have with us Mr. Binx Remnant, who is the former Clerk of the Legislative Assembly.
On behalf of all honourable members, I welcome you here today.
Master Labour Agreement
Mr. Stuart Murray (Leader of the Official Opposition): Mr. Speaker, the Winnipeg Free Press reported on Saturday that, according to the Manitoba Flood Expansion Authority CEO Ernie Gilroy, Ottawa is aware of the Province's master labour agreement and that details have been provided on the agreement to Ottawa on an ongoing basis.
They further reported that Treasury Board President Reg Alcock is reviewing the agreement and the concerns that it may lead to forced unionization, Mr. Speaker.
Yet the Premier and his Minister of Labour (Ms. Allan) say there is no agreement. There is nothing in writing. Will the Premier apologize for not being honest with Manitobans and will he make his master labour agreement public?
Hon. Gary Doer (Premier): Rather than the Leader of the Opposition flying by the seat of the
proverbial pants, perhaps he could ask for a copy of the financial agreement
between
* (13:55)
Mr. Murray: This is incredible, Mr. Speaker. What we need is to ensure that we start protecting Manitobans and get an agreement in place to start immediately to get to work on expanding the floodway, but what do we know? Well, we know that a master labour agreement exists. We know that this master labour agreement will automatically force unionization on non-union companies. We know that this master labour agreement will force non-union workers to pay union dues. We also know that this master labour agreement will add some $65 million to the cost of the floodway expansion.
Perhaps that is why this First Minister will not make the agreement public, because he has already mismanaged taxpayers' dollars to the unbelievable point that he is now going to be invoking a never-before-used special clause that will allow him to legally run a deficit. That is what this Government is all about. Here, today, on budget day, why does he not do the right thing and, rather than be utterly embarrassed about his agreement, why does he not take it off the table and save taxpayers $65 million?
Mr. Doer: Mr. Speaker, the sky-is-falling question of the day from the Leader of the Opposition really begs the question. When the member opposite says we do not know anything, he is really quite correct in that assessment. He does not know very much about this proposal. There are discussions going on.
I thought it was
interesting that his former boss, Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, had a similar
agreement, perhaps a tighter one, dealing with the
Mr. Murray: Mr. Speaker, we are only, on this side of the House, quoting what his boss, Mr. Ernie Gilroy, is telling the public, that a master labour agreement exists. This Premier is squandering $100 million on VLTs. He is squandering more than $20 million on building a Laundromat for hospitals. He is squandering more millions of dollars to build a hospital sandwich factory. The list of squandering under this Premier goes on and on and on.
To pay for his unbelievable spending habit, this Premier is robbing Manitoba Hydro. He has raided the rainy day fund and he continues to raise taxes and user fees. I suspect we are going to see more of that today in the Budget. Will the Premier at least do the right thing? Will he take the forced unionization agreement off the table, allow the heavy construction industry and others to get underway on expanding the floodway and save taxpayers $65 million?
Mr. Doer: Mr. Speaker, I would note former Prime Minister Mulroney's master labour agreement which, by the way, was a closed-shop deal. His former boss, Mr. Brian Mulroney, had an agreement and it apparently came in under budget, something we have done on every major capital program we have been involved in.
The
I am shocked, Mr. Speaker. I am shocked that
the members opposite would allow the old 1890 laundry equipment to degenerate
in such a way that we would have soiled sheets in the hospitals of
Master Labour Agreement
Mr. Kelvin Goertzen (Steinbach): This weekend the Manitoba Chamber of Commerce unanimously passed–
Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.
Mr. Speaker: Order.
Mr. Goertzen: Mr. Speaker, while I know the members opposite are sensitive about this issue, the fact is the Manitoba Chamber of Commerce unanimously passed a motion asking the Doer government this weekend to withdraw its plan to require all workers on the floodway to join unions and to pay union dues. Now the Manitoba Chamber of Commerce joins the many groups and organizations and hundreds and thousands of Manitobans who find this plan undemocratic and unfair.
Will the Minister of Water Stewardship today recognize what so many others are saying and take off the table any plan to force unionization of floodway workers or to force union dues, Mr. Speaker?
* (14:00)
Hon. Steve Ashton (Minister of Water Stewardship): I think it is very important to note that we are committed to building the floodway. I find it rather interesting that only now members opposite have shown any interest in the floodway when, in fact, we have been working on this consistently since we came into office. Not only that, we have in place a stakeholders' process. We have had a first set of meetings with Wally Fox-Decent. I want to stress again that we have had very positive feedback from the stakeholders' process and that, Mr. Speaker, is the process we are committed to.
I wish members opposite would join with us because our commitment is to build the floodway. They may play politics with the floodway, we are building it.
Mr. Goertzen: In Thursday's edition of the Steinbach Carillon, a headline appeared that reads Taché council opposes forced unionization on floodway expansion. In the article, Councillor Ron Perrier from the municipality stated: "This is a free democratic society. Forcing people to join unions is counterproductive."
Mr. Speaker, I will pose my question to the Minister of Government Services (Mr. Lemieux), whose department will have some responsibility in the building of the floodway. I believe the municipality is in his riding so it will be interesting to see if he answers, and ask whether or not he will stand up in Cabinet to stand up for the rights of municipalities like Taché who have concerns with what the Government is doing, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Ashton: I assume that members opposite had a concern about the floodway, which, by the way, does come under the jurisdiction of the floodway authority and the Department of Water Stewardship which maintains the operation. Mr. Speaker, I am sure the member's interest had something more to do with some political context, but I can tell you one thing. This Government is headed by a Premier (Mr. Doer) who does not say to Manitobans that it is too bad you live in a flood plain. This is a government led by a Premier who says we are going to build better flood protection for Manitobans.
Mr. Goertzen: Mr. Speaker, I am disappointed the Minister of Government Services did not stand up and represent the people in his area who have been expressing concerns, Chambers of Commerce, rural municipalities, representatives of the federal government, hundreds of thousands of Manitobans, all questioning what the Government is doing by forcing members on the floodway to join unions and to pay union dues. This mess needs to be sorted out. It needs to be sorted out without delay.
Mr. Speaker, will they remove from the table forced unionization, forced dues, bring the stakeholders together and do it today?
Mr. Ashton: Mr. Speaker, having been elected to this Legislature a number of times, I always respect the views of Manitobans. I respect, Mr. Speaker, the views of the 64 Manitobans that signed the petitions that the members opposite tabled on Thursday, but before they again continue what is clearly a political agenda, our agenda is to build the floodway. We put in place a stakeholders' process. That is our commitment. We are going to build the floodway to protect Manitobans. That is far more important than this kind of politics.
Master Labour Agreement
Mr. Ron Schuler (
Hon. Steve Ashton (Minister of Water Stewardship): Mr. Speaker, I am glad that members opposite seem finally to recognize the validity of the process that we put in place with Wally Fox-Decent because that is the response from stakeholders. I can indicate we are indeed committed to that process. We have been moving ahead with the project design and environmental assessment. We have been holding public hearings throughout the province. The members may not have noticed it until recently. We are going to build the floodway. That is the most important priority for Manitobans.
Mr. Schuler: The Premier (Mr. Doer) has stated that Wally Fox-Decent has far more
experience than he has dealing with disputes. When can stakeholders in
Mr. Ashton: Mr. Speaker, I am not sure where the member opposite has been for the last period of time but they already have met. Wally Fox-Decent has met with the stakeholders. That process is ongoing and, in fact, we should be giving that process the opportunity to work. I believe it will. I have faith in Wally Fox-Decent. I am glad members opposite finally are supporting the process we put in place.
Mr. Schuler: As minister responsible for labour issues in
Hon. Nancy Allan (Minister of Labour and Immigration): Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to tell the Labour critic that there was a meeting less than a week ago, on Easter Monday, with all of the affected parties that will be negotiating the agreement. Mr. Wally Fox-Decent was at that meeting, and we have every confidence in this process.
Rapid Transit System
Feasibility Studies
Mrs. Bonnie Mitchelson
(River East): We all recognize that there is a
significant infrastructure deficit in our city of
I would like to ask the Premier today why he has placed this project as a priority. Can he table today the feasibility studies and the cost-benefit analysis that convinced him that this was a priority?
Hon. Gary Doer (Premier): The member is being selective. She will know that there were a number of governments dealing with the second phase of priorities. The second phase included priorities from the provincial government, the federal government and the civic government. The civic government's priority was the rapid transit. The priority for the federal government was the Kenaston underpass, and the priority for the provincial government was to deal with the sewage treatment issues that have been in place for a number of years.
Mr. Speaker, this is a part
of the agreement that was reached. The priority for us obviously was the sewage
treatment. The largest amount of money in the infrastructure agreement is for
waste water sewage treatment in
Mrs. Mitchelson: The Premier certainly did not answer my question. We support sewage treatment, and we support the Kenaston underpass but, Mr. Speaker, why would this Premier blindly spend $17 million on a rapid transit system?
That is only the beginning. The whole project is going to cost $400 million. Why would he move ahead and endorse and support and sign his name to a project, Mr. Speaker, when there has been no cost-benefit analysis and no feasibility studies done?
Mr. Doer: We would not have an agreement on the Kenaston underpass, which members want. We would not have an agreement on the water sewage treatment if we did not have a co-operative agreement with the City's priority, the federal priority and the provincial priority. That is why members opposite could not get along with anybody.
Mrs. Mitchelson: So I have just heard everything. We have a Premier that will roll over and die and put $17 million of money into a project that has no cost-benefit analysis and no feasibility study. How can this Premier sit here and say that times are tough and money is tight when he can throw $17 million out the window without any type of accountability?
* (14:10)
Mr. Doer: I know members opposite think that any nickel or any dime for
transit is throwing money out the window, and we do not agree with them. We are
also working with the Flyer bus company. We are selling thousands of buses
every year in
Mr. Speaker, we are
getting more money from the other levels of government for sewage treatment,
which is the No. 1 priority of
Agricultural Policy
Framework
Provincial Commitment
Mr. Jack Penner (Emerson): Mr. Speaker, on September 5 of last year, the federal and provincial governments signed an agreement forcing farmers to put thousands of dollars into an Agricultural Policy Framework.
The federal government
has committed 60 percent to cover their cost of the program, and the
When will this Government commit to paying its 40 percent fully into the program to bring this program about?
Hon. Rosann Wowchuk (Minister of Agriculture, Food and Rural Initiatives): I think this is a pattern we are seeing on the other side of the House, Mr. Speaker, where they are not putting accurate information on the record.
We did sign the APF agreement, Mr. Speaker, in September, and our money is in the Budget. It was there. The agreement we signed is funded. I would ask the member to look at the information before he puts that kind of information on the record.
Mr. Penner: Mr. Speaker, everybody in this province knows, including farmers and
everybody sitting in this Chamber today, that the
When will this Government commit its 40 percent to the APF program so that farmers can get on with their business?
Ms. Wowchuk: Mr. Speaker, it is too bad that this member is so misinformed. It is the same kind of comments we were getting from him during the BSE crisis. When we were putting money in, he was saying our money was not on the table.
Mr. Speaker, our money is on the table and farmers know that. Farmers know that we have negotiated the formula so that their money does not have to be put into a bank account. Those things are being worked on, but he is misleading the House when he says our money is not allocated. It was there when we signed the agreement.
Mr. Penner: What the minister has just said to this House is that her staff out at public meetings as late as last week are misinforming the farmers and the general public of this province. They were asked point blank has the province yet committed to funding its 40 percent, have they yet committed to covering negative margins, and have they committed, as other provinces have, to the $3-million margin limits, and they said, no, the Province has not yet signed on to the agreement.
Now will this minister tell this House who is lying? Is it her staff, or is she?
Ms. Wowchuk: Well, Mr. Speaker, the member has now clarified his question.
I signed an agreement in September. There is an amendment on the table. The amendment is the one that provinces are working. As far as funding, I would ask the member to wait for the Budget.
Alzheimer's Patients
Prescription Drug Costs
Mrs. Myrna Driedger (Charleswood): This Minister of Health has allowed administrative costs at the WRHA to triple under his watch, and now he is scrambling and trying to control costs by taking away special drugs from Alzheimer's patients in personal care homes.
I would like to ask this Minister of Health: How can he, if he has any heart at all, allow such a shameful assault on vulnerable people who cannot fight for themselves?
Hon. Dave Chomiak (Minister of Health): Mr. Speaker, as is often the case, the member is factually wrong and incorrect.
In fact, the
administrative costs according to CIHI, which
is an independent body at the WRHA, has indicated the costs have gone down
since the member was in office, down in terms of administrative costs.
Secondly, an independent review by CIHI showed that
Mr. Speaker, I would also indicate that, with respect to the particular Alzheimer's drugs, we have the most generous program for provision of those drugs of anywhere in the country.
Mrs. Driedger: Mr. Speaker, that was an absolutely shameful response to all those people affected with Alzheimer's and to the Alzheimer Society, which is fighting hard for these people.
A WRHA VP has said that this is a financial necessity. However, Mr. Speaker, this is discriminatory to Alzheimer's patients, and I fear a further assault on seniors in this Budget coming up this afternoon.
Why should our seniors have to suffer because this Minister of Health cannot control his spending?
Mr. Chomiak: Mr. Speaker, I think that, if members opposite could stop fighting the 1999 election, they would find out that we have done more to improve the quality of patient and senior care in this province than during the 11 lean years of Tory government when we saw such cutbacks.
The Palliative Care Drug
Program, the first of its kind in
Mr. Speaker: Order. Before recognizing the honourable Member for Charleswood, I would just like to remind the guests that we have in the gallery that there is to be no participation, and that is by clapping or whatever means. So I ask the co-operation of all honourable members in the gallery.
Mrs. Driedger: Mr. Speaker, this is a callous, disgraceful way to treat our elderly, but it gets even worse. This Minister of Health is prepared to allow two-tier medicine, because if families want to pay for those drugs in the personal care home they are going to be allowed to pay for it themselves.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask this Minister of Health: Will he commit today to reverse his heartless, discriminatory policy, a policy that comes very, very close to trampling on human rights?
Mr. Chomiak: The three drugs that the member is referring to that are covered in this province, unlike other provinces, apply to a range of people that suffer from a particular form of Alzheimer's, of low to moderate forms of Alzheimer's that have shown a benefit.
The policy the member refers to is for individuals who are in personal care homes with respect to the fact of whether or not the drug–we are trying to deal with overmedication and other medication matters–whether or not in fact the drug has an impact on the particular patient's progress, Mr. Speaker. If it is shown that the drug is effective for the patient, the patient gets the drug. If it is shown that the drug is not effective for the patient, based on clinic guidelines decided by doctors, not by the Member for Charleswood who likes to take cheap shots, that will be determined by the doctors and by the patients with respect to clinical guidelines as to the application of these drugs.
* (14:20)
Balanced Budget
Legislation
Minister's Salary
Reduction
Hon. Jon Gerrard (
According to the balanced budget legislation, where a deficit is projected in the third-quarter report, as it was this year, the Budget must show a 20% decrease in ministers' salaries. I ask the Premier whether he is going to squirm through the bad Tory loophole in the act, or whether he has the honesty and integrity to admit that the third-quarter report showed the deficit, and to ask the Finance Minister to reduce his salary in the Budget this afternoon.
Hon. Gary Doer (Premier): Mr. Speaker, the member last week, when he was asking questions about the supplementary spending and going back to the third-quarter report, he should note that the debt repayment that is required was made in the second-quarter report. The second-quarter report allows for a $76-million, I believe, or $75-million debt repayment for the pension liability.
I would note, Mr.
Speaker, that we are the first government since 1962 to start dealing with the
pension liabilities. That is why we have had two credit upgrades. I would ask
the member opposite, I have never heard him congratulate our Minister of
Finance for the two improvements in credit upgrades for the four years of
fiscal management that has gone on here in
Mr. Gerrard: Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Deputy Premier (Ms Wowchuk). The Tories, when they brought in the balanced budget legislation, put in a very strange loophole allowing your Government to run a deficit even in a year where there is more than $300 million in new revenue, as there was last year. Now Liberals would change the legislation to eliminate that Tory loophole–
Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.
Mr. Speaker: Order. I would like to once again remind all honourable members when a Speaker is standing that all members should be seated and the Speaker should be heard in silence. I ask the co-operation of all honourable members.
Mr. Gerrard: Mr. Speaker, I ask the Deputy Premier whether she is going to squirm through this ridiculous Tory loophole or whether she has asked the Minister of Finance (Mr. Selinger) to reduce her salary, recognizing that there really was a deficit in that third-quarter report.
Mr. Doer: Mr. Speaker, the member opposite, talking about the word "squirm," was it not the member opposite that was running around with a bowl of fudge last year in the photo opportunities after the Budget? And did he not then vote for the Budget that we presented?
He is the only one that was squirming last year when the Budget was presented.
Master Labour Agreement
Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (
But my question is for the Minister of Labour. We know that the Minister
of Labour is supposed to represent the interests of the
How does she reconcile that in her own mind?
Hon. Nancy Allan (Minister of Labour and Immigration): Mr. Speaker, I would be more than delighted to answer this question again today. I answered it Thursday, and I will be answering it exactly the same way today. The affected parties are at the table negotiating a master labour agreement and we will wait for that agreement.
Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
Mr. Tom Nevakshonoff (Interlake): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for finally giving me the opportunity to put
a very important question to the people of
Indeed, after three days sitting in here, the Opposition has not seen fit to ask this question. Today, with members of the Manitoba Cattle Producers Association up in the gallery, I would ask the Minister of Agriculture if she could give us an update as to the border situation dealing with the BSE crisis and the drought that we faced last year. What is to be expected in the days to come, Madam Minister?
Hon. Rosann Wowchuk (Minister of Agriculture, Food and
Rural Initiatives): I certainly thank the Member
for Interlake for raising that issue because although the Opposition has lost
interest in BSE, it is still one of the most important challenges facing our
producers, Mr. Speaker. That is why our Premier (Mr. Doer) went to
We are very pleased today that the
School Division Amalgamation
Impact on Property Taxes
Mrs. Heather Stefanson (Tuxedo): Mr. Speaker, since the Doer government forced several school
divisions in
Hon. Peter Bjornson (Minister of Education, Citizenship and Youth): Promise: To phase out the Education Support Levy over the next five years. Action: Three consecutive years of reducing the Education Support Levy.
Promise, Mr. Speaker, promise: To fund education at the rate of economic growth or better. Action: For the last five years we have continued to fund education at the rate of economic growth or better. We have put $105 million into the base funding for education.
This is a considerable
amount more than members opposite. Their five-year record previous was minus 2
percent, minus 2.6, zero, minus 2 and zero. Their last investment in education
was $15.2 million in five years compared to $105 million. This is a government
that stands up for education. I am proud to be a part of this Government and
stand up on this side of the House for its public school system in
Mrs. Stefanson: I am wondering if the Minister of Education could tell us where in his crystal ball the promised $10 million in savings as a result of their forced amalgamation of school divisions is going to be found.
Mr. Bjornson: Mr. Speaker, we are committed to looking at the way education funding has been undertaken in this province. We have a working group which was started in June of 2001 to explore education funding. We will be hearing from that working group shortly.
Mr. Speaker, we have increased the property tax credit. We have reduced portioning on farmland and saved farmers $7 million combined in education support levy and municipal taxes. We have committed to education by investing $288 million in capital and infrastructure projects which was twice what members opposite did in the previous five years. This is a government that is standing up for education. I am proud to be a part of this Government.
* (14:30)
Mrs. Stefanson: Rather than relying on a crystal ball to fulfil his election promises, will this Minister of Education commit today to ensuring that education property taxes will not continue to rise in these communities as a result of this Government's forced amalgamation scheme?
Mr. Bjornson: As I said, Mr. Speaker, we have put $105 million into the base. We
are committed to funding education at the rate of economic growth. It is
affordable. It is predicable. It is sustainable. From 1990 to 1999, the taxes
on property increased 65.6 percent under members opposite. We have a promise.
We will live up to that promise. In fact, we are busy fulfilling their promises
when they promised seven times to build the
Crown Lands
Usage Policy
Mr. Glen Cummings (Ste.
Rose): Mr. Speaker, Crown lands and their use and
development is very important to rural
Hon. Stan Struthers (Minister of Conservation): Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and I want to thank my friend from across for finally asking a question. I am very pleased to be able to tell him that I am proud of the announcement that we made toward providing a transparent, fair approach to the operation of Crown lands in this province. It is a process that I look very much forward to overseeing as we move ahead in making sure that all Manitobans are treated fairly in this province. Thank you for your question from across the way.
Mr. Cummings: What mechanism, Mr. Speaker, will be in place to provide a review, an oversight of policy advice on any initiatives on Crown land?
Mr. Struthers: Mr. Speaker, we know that we have to provide an ongoing review of the process that we put in place. The review will be fair. The review will be transparent. It will be done on the basis of consistency. We know there are things that have happened in past years that we have to be better at and we are moving forward to make sure that that is accomplished.
Mr. Cummings: Mr. Speaker, a devolution to a non-elected civil service that will lead in the significant development opportunities in our rural areas strikes me as being insufficient. He may have been glad to be asked a question, I would be glad to hear an answer.
Mr. Struthers: My goal, Mr. Speaker, is to make sure that my questions are just as high a quality as the questions that I have been asked. So, having said that, I want to make sure that the member across the way knows that I have complete faith in the ability of my deputy minister to chair this group that he talks of, and all of the deputy ministers who worked so very hard to make sure that our process is fair, consistent and transparent.
Mr. Speaker: The time for Oral Questions has expired.
Holocaust Remembrance Day
Mr. Doug Martindale (Burrows): Mr. Speaker, April 18 is Holocaust Remembrance Day. Here and around the world, Yom Hashoah is a solemn and important occasion, the day we remember, publicly, the victims of the Holocaust.
Earlier today, Mr. Speaker,
the Premier (Mr. Doer) and Minister of Multiculturalism (Ms. Allan)
participated in a ceremony at the Holocaust monument on the legislative
grounds. I am proud to say that on May 1, 2000,
On this day, Mr. Speaker, we join
Mr. Speaker, we remember the complete betrayal of a people who suffered the indescribable horrors of concentration camps. It was a betrayal caused by ignorance and hate and we must never forget what ignorance and hate can do to human beings.
We also remember the millions of other Holocaust victims who were tortured and killed because of physical and mental disabilities, race, religion and sexual orientation.
We join together to mourn the hopes and dreams buried in mass graves and we grieve with the victims' families and friends for what cannot be undone.
Our best defence against such atrocities is to acknowledge that the potential for prejudice and hatred still exists and to confront it in our own communities. Together we must continue to confront those who profess these views and make it clear that there is no place in our communities and our nation for bigotry, racism and hatred.
Mr. Speaker, today we rededicate ourselves to safeguarding the human rights of all people, rededicating ourselves to treating every individual we encounter with respect and dignity.
Mrs. Mavis Taillieu (Morris): In the spirit of remembrance, Mr. Speaker, I would also like to put a few words on the record about Yom Hashoah, Holocaust Awareness Week.
Recent anti-semitic
incidents in
In 2000, Mr. Speaker, the
Manitoba Legislature voted unanimously to pass Bill 19, an act to proclaim
Holocaust Memorial Day in Manitoba, and just recently in November of 2003, the
Canadian government passed a bill recognizing Yom Hashoah as a national
Holocaust Day of Remembrance.
This morning, the names of Holocaust victims which are inscribed on the monument here on the southwest grounds of the Manitoba Legislature were recited as part of the "Unto Every Person There is a Name Program." This program reminded us of the unthinkable suffering and anguish which the experience of the Holocaust brought to many individuals. It brought a personal touch to the victims and survivors, and reinforces our commitment to fight racism and discrimination wherever it may exist.
This week there are a
number of other events designated to promote greater awareness, including
lectures and various feature and documentary films, film events being shown.
Today at noon, the Jewish Federation of
We must not forget the story of the Holocaust. Reflecting on this great tragedy of history, as hard as it may be, ensures that we learn from our mistakes and learn the reasons necessary to ensure that these disgraceful actions are not perpetrated again. May I ask that we stand for a moment of silence, please.
Mr. Speaker: Would members all please rise?
A moment of silence was
observed.
House Business
Hon. Gord Mackintosh (Government House Leader): Mr. Speaker, I thank the
honourable members for waiving further members' statements today in order to
proceed to the proceedings. I would ask there be a five-minute recess in order
to prepare for the budget presentation, and if we can have a one-minute summoning
of members by the bell. Thank you.
* (14:40)
Mr. Speaker: Order. Before I announce what was just announced, I have to ask: Is
there unanimous consent of the House to waive the rest of the members'
statements, which would have been NDP, two, and the Progressive Conservatives,
one?
Is
there agreement to waive the rest of that? [Agreed]
Also,
is there agreement to waive grievances?
[Agreed]
Okay,
is there agreement that we will have a five-minute recess? [Agreed]
Okay, we will recess and then you will hear a
bell. It will ring for one minute, and then we will go on to government
business.
The House recessed at 2:41 p.m.
________
The House resumed at
2:48 p.m.
Hon. Greg Selinger
(Minister of Finance): Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Minister of Health (Mr. Chomiak),
that this House approve in general the budgetary policy of the Government.
Motion presented.
*
(14:50)
Mr.
Selinger: Mr. Speaker, I am privileged to
present the 2004 Manitoba Budget, a budget that meets today’s challenges and
builds on our long-term plan for growth and opportunity.
Mr. Speaker, I want to take this
opportunity to thank Manitobans all across this province who participated in
consultations for their suggestions. I appreciate the support I have received
from my colleagues in Cabinet and in caucus. I also want to recognize the
tremendous efforts of staff throughout government who worked to make today's
Budget possible. Thank you to all.
Mr. Speaker, Budget 2004 is a
balanced budget. It focusses on the priorities of Manitobans. It deals head-on
with the challenges that face our province: the national economic growth
slowdown during the past year; a reduction of $104 million in federal funding
for
Budget 2004 continues our plan,
which has won two credit upgrades for
Mr. Speaker, our Budget projects
no draw from the rainy day fund for the first time since 1996 and is the first
budget under balanced budget legislation to do so while also paying down the
debt. This Budget again pays down $96 million in debt and pension liabilities.
Budget 2004 also follows through on promised tax relief for Manitobans.
Mr. Speaker, Manitobans are still
dealing with the challenges of what proved to be a very difficult past year:
the BSE crisis, the second-worst forest fire season in
All of these combined to slow the
growth of our economy.
Alors que
d’autres provinces ont remis à plus tard l’allègement fiscal qu’elles avaient
promis à leurs contribuables ou ont coupé leurs investissements dans leurs
infrastructures et programmes essentiels, nous avons multiplié les efforts afin
de tenir les engagements annoncés au cours des quatre budgets précédents.
Translation
While other provinces delayed promised tax relief or cut investments in
vital programs and infrastructure, we worked hard to follow through on our commitments
of the past four budgets.
English
As promised, the Province has
invested in the priorities of public health care, education and supports for
children and families. As promised, $301 million in personal taxes were cut. As
promised, we have provided $480 million for debt retirement, including $96
million more in today’s Budget.
We have kept our commitments
because these are the investments that we can make for Manitobans today and
tomorrow.
Affordable Government
Mr. Speaker, to keep building for
the future, we need to keep government affordable. Accordingly, our total
expenditures per person are the third-lowest in
This Budget sets in motion a plan
to eliminate 400 government positions, saving over $30 million in salaries and
related expenses. We expect to achieve these savings through attrition and do
not expect any layoffs. In addition, all departments have been directed to
reduce discretionary spending by up to 7 percent. We believe in honouring
collective agreements with public-sector employees. At the same time, we will
be seeking moderate salary costs in line with
In Budget 2004, 12 departments,
the majority, are holding the line below inflation or reducing spending. In
addition, Budget 2004 introduces a number of new and ongoing efficiencies.
A further $32.5-million reduction
in the Province’s borrowing costs.
Mr. Speaker, Driver and Vehicle Licencing
will now be housed with the Manitoba Public Insurance Corporation, allowing
for reduced duplication of administrative services and increased customer
service.
Les
sanctions imposées en cas de non-paiement de taxes ou d’impôts autonomes seront
plus élevées. La vente et la location des terres domaniales seront régies par
un seul organisme.
Translation
Penalties on overdue own-source taxes will be increased. The sale and
lease of Crown lands will be consolidated in a single agency.
English
Administration, information
technology and financial services will be shared between departments. An
internal expenditure management committee will continue to work with
departments to review all government expenditures with a goal of finding
additional efficiencies.
Les
sociétés de la Couronne du Manitoba jouent un rôle important pour que notre
province reste abordable. Hydro-Manitoba et la Société d’assurance publique du
Manitoba offrent toutes deux aux consommateurs des services de grande qualité,
fiables et peu coûteux. Des études indépendantes démontrent que les coûts de
nos services publics figurent parmi les plus bas en Amérique du Nord.
Translation
English
Building
Our infrastructure priorities have
focussed on health, education, highway renewal, community and downtown
revitalization, and water management. Our first job was a strategic rebuilding
of health care facilities across the province. From Steinbach to
Including resources in Budget
2004, over $288 million has been allocated to capital funding for public
schools since 1999, almost double the funding over the previous five-year
period. The funding has resulted in 33 major addition/renovation projects, 11
replacement schools, and 8 new schools, including facilities in Winkler,
Mr. Speaker, since '99 capital
improvement projects have been undertaken at every campus in
Our $50-million contribution to
the
We are currently negotiating a new
Canada-Manitoba infrastructure program, focussing primarily on rural and
northern regions, which will provide new resources from each level of
government for vital infrastructure needs throughout
The following measures will be
introduced to address current and future provincial infrastructure needs.
Effective midnight April 30, the tax rate on diesel fuel will be synchronized
with the rate for gasoline. This new diesel fuel tax rate remains the
second-lowest among the provinces.
Vehicle registration fees will
increase by $23 effective July 1. An additional levy will be applied for land
transfers in excess of $200,000 beginning July 2004. These three measures will
generate $9.5 million in this fiscal year.
We are currently in the third year
of a five-year, $600-million highways program, which is providing better, safer
roads throughout
* (15:00)
As a result, Mr. Speaker, the
twinning of the
Since 1999, Mr. Speaker, 45
northern communities have received improved drinking water and waste water
treatment facilities. Budget 2004 will continue to invest in water management
and water quality initiatives.
Le Budget
2004 poursuit les investissements requis dans la première phase de l’initiative
d’élargissement du canal de dérivation. Jusqu’à maintenant, le Canada et le Manitoba
se sont engagés à accorder un montant total de 240 millions de dollars au
financement de cette initiative. Une fois terminé, ce projet de 660 millions de
dollars protégera notre capitale contre des inondations à récurrence de 700
ans.
Translation
Budget 2004 continues to invest in the first phase of the Floodway
Expansion Initiative. To date,
English
Following
on the Clean Environment Commission recommendations of last August, the
Province, the City of
Fiscal Imbalance, Future Sustainability
Mr. Speaker, the Conference Board
of Canada indicates that only one province and the federal government will be
running surpluses over the next decade, while the provinces collectively
struggle to fund health and education and local governments face a serious
infrastructure deficit. The board says that under these circumstances the
national health care system will become unsustainable. Our first priority is to
seek a new funding partnership with the federal government for health.
Mr. Speaker, once a new,
sustainable agreement on the immediate and longer term direction of health care
is complete, we can then begin to address the serious infrastructure deficit
facing our municipal governments.
Here in
Overall, in 2004 the
After securing a new agreement on
future health funding, Mr. Speaker, we look forward to working co-operatively
with the federal government and
Health Care
We have a major sustainability
challenge in health care. It is here that we continue to seek a lasting and
meaningful federal partnership.
Beginning in 1999, Mr. Speaker, an
unprecedented provincial commitment helped to stabilize a health care system
that faced serious nurse and doctor shortages, along with deteriorating
hospitals and diagnostic equipment. We have tripled the number of nurses
graduating in
Mr. Speaker, with the number of
licensed practitioners increasing by almost 7 percent over the past five
years,
The Brandon Regional Health Centre
has just opened, a modern hospital that will serve Westman patients for decades
to come.
Mr. Speaker, such leading-edge
medical equipment as
According to the Cancer Advocacy
Coalition of Canada, Mr. Speaker,
The Canadian Diabetes Association
has recognized
L’Association
canadienne des radiologistes a constaté qu’au Manitoba, le délai d’attente pour
une imagerie par résonance magnétique est l’un des plus courts au Canada.
Translation
The Canadian Association of Radiologists found that
English
We
have accomplished these milestones while the federal commitment to medicare has
continued to falter. At a time of major surpluses in
In Budget 2004, health care as a
whole will receive an increase of 5.2 percent, the largest increase of any
department. As the cost of providing health care to Manitobans continues to
grow much faster than available resources, we can no longer stay on our current
course.
Health resources will continue to
be redirected from regional health authority administration to front-line care.
Our Pharmacare system covers
medication costs for Manitobans in need. Over the last five years, spending on
this important program has more than doubled. This year’s budget is $177.5
million. In addition to this funding increase, measures are being taken to
control spiraling drug costs.
The use of generic drugs will be
encouraged. As well, we will examine best practices from other provinces to
ensure that the most effective, lowest-cost medication is covered whenever
possible. As in previous years, deductibles will rise by 5 percent. As well,
there will be two new deductible levels. By taking these measures now, we can
ensure that Pharmacare will remain available to Manitobans who need it.
Manitobans want their loved ones
to get the care they need quickly. Budget 2004 provides resources to address
waiting times, improve service in emergency rooms, and ensure an adequate
supply of health care professionals.
This Budget provides strategic
investments and reforms that improve patient care and continue building a
system that is more efficient in the long run, including the first MRI outside
of Winnipeg, which will be located at the Brandon Regional Health Centre; un
plus grand nombre d’opérations cardiaques afin de répondre à la demande; du
personnel supplémentaire dans les salles d’urgences afin de réduire les délais
d’attente;
Translation
meeting the need for an increased number of heart surgeries; more staff
in emergency rooms dedicated to reducing waiting times;
English
better access to family doctors and health
information; and dialysis treatment closer to home for northern Manitobans.
Through the College Expansion Initiative,
$5 million has been invested since 2000 in expanding education for health
professionals. This year we will re-allocate a portion of this fund to further
expand our successful diploma nursing program and increase opportunities for
Manitobans who want to make health care their career.
Budget 2004 will invest resources
to educate more
In the last five years the number
of diagnostic tests such as MRIs, CT scans and ultrasounds has almost doubled
and in some cases tripled. More than ever, Manitobans have access to the latest
medical technology. To continue this progress, Budget 2004 provides resources
to enhance training for diagnostic professionals.
Manitobans are also taking more
responsibility for their own health, one more important piece in making the
health care system sustainable. The new focus on healthy living assists our
long-term plan to help reduce health care costs by increasing the well-being of
Manitobans.
Manitobans will benefit from the
$3.9-million federal-provincial contribution toward the Kinsmen Reh-Fit
Centre’s expansion. This facility combines fitness, nutrition and medical care
under one roof.
Mr. Speaker, we believe that
government should help promote healthy lifestyles from the earliest years. To
this end, the Task Force on Youth Fitness and Health will hold public
consultations across the province to gather suggestions on improving nutrition
and increasing activity levels for our young people.
In the recent federal budget, Mr.
Speaker, it was announced that additional funding for immunization will be
available. Our Government is committing to expanding the use of vaccines to
prevent serious childhood illnesses.
Following on the recommendations
of the All-Party Task Force on Environmental Tobacco Smoke, the Minister of
Healthy Living (Mr. Rondeau) took a leadership role in tabling Bill 21, The
Non-Smokers Health Protection Amendment Act. This will make
From January 2001 to June 2003,
smoking in
* (15:10)
Education and Youth
Creating tomorrow’s opportunities
starts with a strong commitment to education and our young people. This
commitment lies at the heart of our economic growth strategy.
Earlier this year, Mr.
Speaker, we announced our intention to
increase school funding by $17.6 million, a 2 percent increase. This is the
fifth consecutive year our Government has kept our commitment to fund schools
at the rate of economic growth for a total increase of $105 million.
Mr. Speaker, new resources will be
directed toward Aboriginal academic achievement; special needs education, which
has increased almost 25 percent since 1999-2000; English as a second language
programs; counselling and guidance; and library support.
We are embarking on a multi-year
initiative with new resources in Budget 2004 to improve the curriculum and
options for high school vocational education. This initiative will improve the
links to post-secondary educational institutions, to apprenticeship
opportunities and to employers.
Des
ressources seront également affectées à la création d’un Institut des
enseignants et enseignantes à l’Assemblée législative du Manitoba afin que les
enseignants puissent en apprendre davantage sur la démocratie parlementaire et
utiliser dans la salle de classe l’expérience et les connaissances acquises.
Translation
Resources will also be provided to create a Teachers' Institute at the
English
Mr.
Speaker, tax relief to homeowners is part of our investment in education. We
have reduced education property taxes every year by increasing the tax credit
or reducing the residential education support levy.
During the nineties, property
values were flat while education property taxes rose by an average of 66
percent. Today this situation has reversed, with strong growth in property
values and flat education property taxes. Higher school division levies have
been offset for most Manitobans by reductions in provincial education property
taxes. With today’s Budget, we have reduced education property taxes by $92
million since 1999.
Despite the challenges of the past
year, this Budget will fund a further $10-million reduction in the residential
education support levy. In 2004 our additional ESL reduction will save
homeowners $40.50 on a $125,000 home, bringing the total ESL savings since 2001
to $159 for the same home.
In our first mandate, we saved
For 2005, Mr. Speaker, farm
education property taxes will be reduced by 5 percent as a first step. We will
undertake consultations to determine how best to implement this commitment.
Through Budget 2004 we will
continue to keep
Since 1999 we have made tremendous
strides forward. University enrolments have increased by 28 percent. College
enrolments are up over 30 percent. Apprenticeships are up 18 percent. The
number of nurses in training has tripled. High-tech training in aerospace and
life sciences has increased by almost a thousand students. In 2000, tuition was
reduced by 10 percent and has been retained at that level for the past four
years. This Budget continues the tuition rebate for the fifth straight year,
improving accessibility and helping students keep debt loads manageable.
Total support for colleges and
universities in Budget 2004 will increase by 3.5 percent. New resources will go
to the College Expansion Initiative to continue expanding educational
opportunities; the Post-secondary Strategic Initiatives Fund, to stimulate new
program development; and the ACCESS program, which assists individuals who have
traditionally faced barriers to college and university.
Earlier this year we introduced
legislation to establish the
Mr. Speaker, the
Funding will also be made
available for the Hydro Northern Training Initiative to improve the delivery of
training and employment opportunities for northern Aboriginal residents
resulting from hydro-electric development.
We will allocate $200,000 to train
Manitobans for employment opportunities related to the expansion of the Red
River Floodway.
We are channelling significant new
support for graduate scholarships to stimulate research-based graduate studies
in
Supporting Families
Mr. Speaker, we know that
investments in the early years generate positive outcomes both for our children
and for society.
Mr. Speaker, through Budget 2004,
Healthy Child
En outre,
nous affectons de nouvelles ressources au programme Développement de la petite
enfance francophone, afin que la communauté francophone puisse élaborer des
programmes appropriés sur les plans culturel et linguistique.
Translation
In addition, new resources are being allocated to support Francophone
early childhood development to enable the Francophone community to develop
culturally and linguistically appropriate programs.
English
New resources have been allocated to expand
early childhood development testing to help school divisions measure how
We will also direct funding
towards a new Children’s Therapy Initiative, which has been introduced to
improve children’s early access to services such as speech and language
therapy.
Mr. Speaker, during the nineties,
funding was cut dramatically for persons with disabilities, resulting in
reduced services and a diminished quality of life for some Manitobans. We have
taken action.
We appointed a Minister responsible for Persons
with Disabilities and opened a new Disabilities Issues Office, a centre of
co-ordination for disability policy which ensures meaningful consultation with
the disability community and addresses issues of importance to persons with
disabilities. Budget 2004 provides a $12.3-million, or 11% increase for the
Supported Living Program, which helps persons with disabilities live in the
community.
In the 1990s,
Our efforts to rebuild and
revitalize neighbourhoods, particularly in
The governments of
Since '99, Mr. Speaker,
commitments have been made to build, renovate or repair over 2100 homes in
Manitoba under the Neighbourhood Housing Assistance program and the Affordable
Housing Initiative.
* (15:20)
Safer Communities
Mr. Speaker, quality housing,
supports for children and families, thriving neighbourhoods and safe
communities are important components of healthy living.
When our Government came to office
in 1999, problems such as auto theft and arson were growing. Organized crime
had a new profile in
Mr. Speaker, our Government
immediately began tackling these complex problems with a comprehensive
approach toward fighting crime and improving public safety. Our approach means
more resources for police and prosecutors, new legal tools for law enforcement
agencies and a greater emphasis on prevention programs that work.
We also funded
We have introduced new strategies
to fight auto theft and impaired driving and launched the successful
Lighthouses program designed to provide youth with healthy alternatives to the
streets. Budget 2004 provides resources for the establishment of five new
Lighthouse programs.
Notre
démarche signifie que nous reconnaissons le besoin d’affecter plus de
ressources aux premières lignes, et le Budget 2004 continue d’investir dans les
initiatives entreprises depuis 1999.
Translation
Our approach means recognizing the need for more resources on the front
lines, and Budget 2004 continues to invest in efforts that have been underway
since 1999.
English
We are fighting organized crime by
supporting the new joint forces organized crime task force and the RCMP Gang
Awareness Unit; funding the RCMP to enable it to achieve full complement,
bringing total support for the provincial police to $70.2 million, an increase
of 26 percent since 1999; and expanding the collaboration between police, prosecutors,
and Corrections staff through the Criminal Organization and High Risk Offender
Unit to target gangs and predators.
The Department of Justice has
commenced extensive consultations with over 24 major industry stakeholders that
use in-house security in some form. The department is working toward developing
regulatory policies within this newly emerging and complex industry that will
include employment standards and training.
Supporting our prosecutors has
also been a top priority. We have increased the Prosecutions budget by 67
percent since 1999. Today’s Budget adds resources for another senior prosecutor
for cases involving child victims.
Budget 2004 builds on these
efforts by providing further resources for police and firefighting services;
enhancing community partnerships; and supporting those at greatest risk. The
Budget provides new resources for the Dakota Ojibway Police Service, Opaskwayak
Cree Nation Policing, and Aboriginal policing at Nelson House; new funding of
over $350,000 to support the Victim Notification and Tracking System to inform
victims of court dates, trial outcomes and other events related to their cases;
resources to permanently establish Turnabout, the first provincial program of
its kind in Canada, to ensure meaningful interventions and consequences for
offenders under 12 years of age; resources to expand Safety First, a program
providing security equipment for low-income seniors; and enhanced regional
support for child victims through Victim Services.
Our Government also recognizes
that it must address challenges facing the justice system. Since 2001, funding
for Legal Aid has increased by 30 percent. This year funding for Legal Aid will
again increase. Yet significant challenges persist, challenges such as high
expenditures on high-profile and multi-accused cases. Changes will be made to
preserve the mandate of Legal Aid, which is to ensure legal representation for
those who could not otherwise afford it.
Building Our Communities
Mr. Speaker, we remain committed to
providing community and economic development opportunities in all regions of
In rural
We will make the investments
necessary to ensure the expertise and technology required to thrive in the new
economy are there for rural
Mr. Speaker, resources will be
provided for the Aboriginal Economic and Resource Development Fund, which
supports our Northern Strategy through projects like the Northern Forest
Diversification Centre. Resources will also be provided for the implementation
of a Northern Healthy Foods Initiative to promote local and traditional food
production and improve nutrition for families.
Northern infrastructure will
remain a priority in Budget 2004, including winter roads, northern airports
and other transportation infrastructure. We will also deliver improved drinking
water and waste water treatment initiatives.
Budget 2004 continues to support
upgrades in community facilities throughout the province. Major recreation
centres will be built or expanded in Thompson, The Pas and Dauphin, with
contributions from all three levels of government.
One of
Mr. Speaker, we are working to
increase the number of immigrants coming to
En
travaillant avec l’industrie du tourisme et en s’inspirant de l’expérience des
autres provinces, nous pouvons faire en sorte que ce secteur important de notre
économie continue à se développer et à prendre de l’essor.
Translation
By working with the tourism industry and examining the experiences of other
provinces, we can ensure this important area of our economy continues to expand
and prosper.
English
Conservation and Water Stewardship
Mr. Speaker, a wealth of clean,
fresh water, beautiful beaches, unspoiled wilderness areas, pristine parks and
recreational facilities are a major part of our Manitoba Advantage.
Our commitment to water quality
encompasses all aspects from source to tap. The mandate of the newly created
Water Stewardship Department, the first of its kind in
Mr. Speaker, we have already
proclaimed some of the strongest legislation in
Mr. Speaker, Budget 2004 will
provide strong support for the continued improvement of
We have introduced The Water
Protection Act to facilitate more effective measures to protect water resources
and aquatic ecosystems, provide a framework for integrated planning on a
watershed basis, and enable the establishment of the Manitoba Water Council and
Water Stewardship Fund.
Mr. Speaker, we will provide
support for the Livestock Management Program to address additional
responsibilities for inspection and enforcement. To encourage farm businesses
to invest in equipment to reduce odours from organic waste, we are introducing
a 10% Odour Control Tax Credit.
In 1997,
I am pleased to report that work
is now commencing on the $240-million first phase of the floodway expansion.
This $660-million capital project will create economic opportunities for communities,
businesses and
* (15:30)
The Province has also provided
flood-fighting resources to the people of Peguis First Nation, who have been
flooded by the
To further enhance Manitoba’s
natural assets we have designated five new provincial parks since 1999: Pembina
Valley, Caribou River, Trappist Monastery, South Atikaki, and the Criddle-Vane
Homestead, encompassing a total of nearly 800 000 hectares. We have also
recently signed an agreement that will lead to the creation of the Manitoba
Lowlands National Park, Canada’s newest national park.
We will make $350,000 available
for the Cottage Lot and Campsite Development Initiative in provincial parks. As
well, we will channel increased funding of $225,000 for beach safety. In
addition, the Protected Areas Initiative will receive $100,000 to further
support our network of protected areas in
The strengths of
These strengths have allowed us to
meet the challenges of the past year. In 2003, Manitoba achieved overall
economic growth of 1.9 percent, which was below earlier expectations, but still
exceeded the national average and population growth of 7584 people, our
strongest performance since 1986. We also had net in-migration of 1055 more
young people aged 15-24, our best performance since 1984. We continued with the
lowest unemployment rate in
Over the period from 2000 to 2003,
Projections for the years ahead
are also promising.
In 2003, Mr. Speaker,
Significantly, last year the
number of multiple-unit dwelling starts rose by over 73 percent to the highest
level since 1989.
Like all provinces,
We will continue to work in close
partnership with the Premier’s Economic Advisory Council. The council is made up
of business, labour, education, community and Aboriginal leadership and
provides recommendations on crucial economic issues and creative thinking on
the challenges and strengths of
A multi-stakeholder local
investment council has been established under the auspices of the Premier's
Economic Advisory Council to work with the community to enhance relationships
with pension funds, capital funds and other institutional investors to increase
local investment.
The PEAC Aboriginal Economic Development
and Employment Task Group is working to stimulate economic development and new
opportunities for the Aboriginal community.
Later this year the group will
hold an Aboriginal Economic Development Summit modelled after the successful
Manitoba Century Summit to facilitate new opportunities and effective
partnerships in Aboriginal communities.
Building on Our Energy Advantage
The 200-megawatt Wuskwatim hydro
project is currently before the Clean Environment Commission. This
$900-million investment would mark the largest capital construction project in
Mr. Speaker, our Government is
pursuing opportunities to the east in
En
collaboration avec d’autres organisations, Hydro-Manitoba fait à l’heure
actuelle des tests de contrôle dans plus de 16 endroits de la province afin de
déterminer les possibilités qui existent pour le pouvoir éolien.
Translation
English
The proposed 99-megawatt wind farm
in St.
We are working hard to diversify
the rural economy and address climate change with increased ethanol production.
Through the Manitoba Ethanol Office, we are working to co-ordinate the growth
of the industry and encourage the development of made-in-Manitoba ethanol.
We are also taking steps to reduce
our energy consumption with a new one-stop agency that will see Manitobans’
energy bills reduced by building on the success of Manitoba Hydro’s Power Smart
program. This agency will free up electricity for lucrative export markets,
reduce gas imports and reduce water usage.
Building through Innovation and Research
Research and development are key
elements of our economy that promote growth and diversification and provide for
higher living standards.
Over the past two years, our
province has benefited from a 40% increase in the number of life sciences
companies. With approximately 4 percent of the country’s population,
The
SMARTpark, a community of
innovators with a focus on life sciences, composite materials and information
and communication technologies at the U of M, continues to grow, including the
$8.5-million Cangene Corporation expansion, $6 million invested in two new
multi-tenant facilities, with a further $6 million to $8 million to be invested
in a third facility in 2004, as well as start-up companies that are being
developed at SMARTpark’s incubator called Incubat, Mr. Speaker.
Communities like Hartney,
Winnipegosis and St. Pierre-Jolys are among a number of communities that now
have access to high-speed connectivity and broadband.
Nous
continuons à travailler avec le secteur privé et les organismes communautaires
afin d’offrir ces services dans les régions de la province où ils n’existent
pas actuellement.
Translation
We continue to work with the private sector and community-based
organizations to provide these services to those areas in the province where
such services do not currently exist.
English
Drawing
on our research expertise,
With the federal government
currently considering a location for the Canadian Centre for Disease Control,
we believe
No other Canadian jurisdiction has
Budget 2004 sets aside $250,000 to
enable us to continue to work with the federal government and experts in the
field of biotechnology to ensure this important national institution is located
right here in Manitoba.
* (15:40)
Taxation
In our previous four budgets, Mr.
Speaker, our Government has reduced personal taxes for Manitobans by $301
million annually. Our tax reductions for businesses are up to another $74
million annually in reductions.
Mr. Speaker, this Budget funds a
6% middle income tax break, effective January 2004. This will save Manitobans
$39 million this year.
This Budget also provides
additional targeted personal income tax relief in line with federal budget
changes. The Education Tax Credit will be extended to employees who pursue
career-related studies at their own expense. A new deduction will recognize the
additional employment and education-related costs borne by persons with
disabilities. Caregivers will have improved tax recognition of certain medical
and disability-related costs they bear on behalf of persons with disabilities.
The employment income of military and police personnel deployed to high-risk
assignments outside
Today I am pleased to announce
several new measures that will make
Mr. Speaker, to promote business
investment in computers and the data networks, the depreciation rates for
related equipment will increase by 50 percent for income tax purposes. The
temporary Mineral Exploration Tax Credit will be extended for an additional
year. The non-capital loss carry-forward provision will be extended from seven
to ten years. The carry-forward provision will be similarly extended for the
Manufacturing Investment Tax Credit, the R&D Tax Credit and the Community
Enterprise Development Tax Credit. A ten-year carry-forward provision will be
introduced for the Co-operative Education Tax Credit.
Budget 2004 also follows through
on our long-term plans for sustainable tax reductions. In 2001 we announced the
first cut in the corporation tax rate since the Second World War. The rate fell
in stages from 17 percent to 15.5 percent, effective January 2004. It will fall
again to 15 percent in 2005. The small-business tax threshold will also
increase for the third straight year. It will rise further to $400,000 in 2005.
For the second year corporations will also be exempt from paying tax on their
first $5 million of capital expenditure to encourage investment by businesses
of all sizes.
To protect essential services, Mr.
Speaker, Budget 2004 strikes a balance between new efficiencies, reduced
expenditures and additional revenues. We recognize that additional shifting of
business taxes is needed to help finance general business rate reductions. We
are more closely aligning the capital tax base for banking institutions with
our neighbouring provinces and the federal government.
Like many other provinces, retail
sales tax will be applied to legal, accounting, engineering, architectural and
security services.
We are also announcing that the
corporation income tax rate will fall to 14.5 percent, and the small-business
rate will be reduced to 4.5 percent.
For the first time since coming into
government, Manitoba Liquor Control Commission mark-ups will also be adjusted.
Overall, the tax changes in this
Budget, when combined with previously announced tax measures coming into effect
this year, are revenue neutral for
Budget 2004 projects a positive
balance of $3 million, with no draw from the Fiscal Stabilization Fund. This
Budget is the first to project no draw from the fund since 1996 and the first
budget under balanced budget legislation to do so while also paying down debt.
Budget 2004 also provides for a further $96 million toward debt and the pension
liability.
Au cours
des cinq dernières années, l’obligation de rendre compte à la population du
Manitoba a été mieux observée par la présentation de rapports plus transparents
et plus complets.
Translation
Over the past five years, accountability to Manitobans has been
improved through more complete and transparent reporting.
English
We produced the first ever Annual
Report for Government, a critical piece in the accountability cycle, and
introduced improved accounting practices for capital acquisitions. In addition
to summary financial statements, we are now presenting summary budgets
encompassing the entire government reporting entity, including the 40-year unfunded
pension liability.
Starting with Budget 2004, two
additional changes will reflect our commitment to improved reporting. In
keeping with Public Sector Accounting Board standards, we are introducing the
infrastructure capital accounting practices with this Budget. This policy
change mirrors earlier changes made for other capital acquisitions.
In this year’s budget documents,
we have also included a medium-term fiscal framework on a summary basis. We
believe this additional information will help Manitobans better understand our
planning for future years for the overall government.
Mr. Speaker, our medium term shows
that in 2004-5 our operating accounts are in a positive balance. Our Crown
organizations, including Manitoba Hydro, Manitoba Public Insurance and
Manitoba Crop Insurance, are in an overall positive balance. We continue to
address the 40-year unfunded pension liability through measures that fully
fund all pension costs for new government employees. We are making annual
payments toward outstanding pension obligations. For future years the
medium-term framework forecasts positive balances.
In
conclusion, this past year will be remembered as one of great challenges. It
also underlined yet again that in the face of such challenges
Mr. Speaker, we are building an
even better future in communities right across the province. We are doing so in
partnership with all Manitobans. Our economy is growing, consumer confidence is
high, our housing market is strong, and we have achieved historic highs in
immigration.
For five straight years we met the
test of balanced budget legislation, paid down debt and pension liabilities
and invested in the programs that Manitobans cherish most. Our Government has
also taken positive steps to improve efficiency and remain one of the most affordable
governments in
Budget 2004 builds on this solid
progress we have made in the recent past. In meeting today’s challenges we are
also building the opportunities for tomorrow and the next generation of
Manitobans.
Thank you. Merci beaucoup.
Mr. Stuart Murray (Leader of the Official Opposition): Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by
the honourable Member for
Motion agreed to.
Messages
Mr. Selinger: Mr. Speaker, I have two messages from His Honour the
Lieutenant-Governor as well as the budget document, which I would like to
table.
Mr. Speaker: Please stand for the reading of the messages.
The
Lieutenant-Governor transmits to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba Estimates
of sums required for the services of the Province for capital expenditures and
recommends these Estimates to the Legislative Assembly.
The
other message reads: The Lieutenant-Governor transmits to the Legislative
Assembly of Manitoba Estimates of sums required for the services of the
Province for the fiscal year ending the 31st day of March, 2005, and recommends
these Estimates to the Legislative Assembly.
Please
be seated.
* * *
Hon. Gord Mackintosh (Government House Leader): Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the
Minister of Finance (Mr. Selinger), that this House do now adjourn.
Motion agreed to.
Mr. Speaker: This House is now adjourned and stands adjourned until 1:30 p.m.
tomorrow (Tuesday).