LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA

Tuesday, May 30, 2023


The House met at 1:30 p.m.

Madam Speaker: Good afternoon, everybody. Please be seated.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Madam Speaker: Intro­duction of bills? Com­mit­tee reports? Tabling of reports?

Ministerial Statements

Madam Speaker: The hon­our­able First Minister, and I would indicate that the required 90 minutes' notice prior to routine proceedings was provided in accord­ance with rule 27(2).

      Would the hon­our­able minister please proceed with her statement.

Children's Hospital Champion Children

Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): Madam Speaker, I rise today to recog­nize three Children's Hospital champions: Brady Bobrowich, Keira Davlut and Pacey Wall.

      Every year, the Children's Hospital Foundation of Manitoba identifies a remark­able child who has shared their story to demon­strate the life‑changing health advances that have been made and the personal journey they and their families take to overcome illness and injury.

      Over the past three years, the Children's Hospital Foundation has identified three outstanding children as champion children.

      The first is Brady Bobrowich, the 2020 and 2021 champion child. At five months old, he was diagnosed with type 1 neurofibromatosis, a genetic disorder that causes tumours to form on nerve tissue. Brady has been to multiple different specialists, countless MRIs and three spine surgeries. Now, at age 12, Brady is persevering, never letting the rods in his spine or his con­di­tion stop him from the activities that he loves.

      The 2022 champion child, Keira Davlut, was diagnosed with craniosynostosis, when the plates in a baby's skull fuse too early, before the brain is fully formed. Keira has had several surgeries and 12 specialists over the years at Health Sciences Centre Children's Hospital to support her progress. Now, at 12 years old, Keira is full of energy and living life to the fullest.

      The 2023 champion child, Pacey Wall, who is only nine years old, has had over 30 surgeries at HSC Children's Hospital due to his intestinal failure. He has been in and out of the emergency de­part­ment since complications started at age three, even spending Christmases and birthdays in hospital. No matter how challenging things get, Pacey always sees the positive. As an example, I recently received Pacey's person­alized trading card. On the back, it includes his favourite saying: believe in yourself.

      Madam Speaker, these three remark­able children are an inspiration to all, as they have been triumphant, despite the many dif­fi­cul­ties they have faced through­out their lives.

      Madam Speaker, I ask that all members join me in celebrating the Children's Hospital champion chil­dren: Brady Bobrowich, Keira Davlut and Pacey Wall, and their families, who are joining us here in the gallery.

      Thank you.

Mr. Wab Kinew (Leader of the Official Opposition): Madam Speaker, it is an honour to put a few words on the record to pay tribute to the Children's Hospital Foundation champion children, who join us here today in the gallery.

      I was very happy to have the op­por­tun­ity to meet these three remark­able young Manitobans at the recent Winnipeg Police Association ball, and I took advantage of this evening to intro­duce myself. And I have to say, they were very gracious about putting up with a politician like me coming over and interrupting their dinner, and I want to thank them for the op­por­tun­ity to do so.

      But more than anything, I think I want to thank them for having the courage to share their personal stories to inspire other people here in Manitoba to step up and help kids in our province.

      On that evening, we were shared with a video and a testimonial from Pacey, talking about his ex­per­ience and the praise that he had for those who work at the Children's Hospital. And as we were watching this video, I was really moved to see how Pacey and his family stay together with love and courage and faith, and how even some of the simple things, like getting ready to go for a swim, or playing outside, require so much dedi­cation and pre­par­ation to be order–in order to be able to accom­plish.

      And yet, for all of these ad­di­tional challenges and all the ad­di­tional asks that this life has placed on Pacey, you go up and talk to him, he's a great young person. Big smile. Within a few seconds, hey, do you want to have one of my trading cards? As a matter of fact, let me sign it for you.

      What a remark­able spirit. And so, too, can we praise Brady, who cuts a fine figure in that sports coat, I would add, and had many remark­able messages of inspiration of his own to share.

      And of course, to Kiera, who I had an op­por­tun­ity to take a photo with and talk to her family on that evening as well.

      Each of these young people testify to the import­ance of perseverance, of resilience and charity. They are giving back through sweat equity, through the courage of their personal testimonials, to gain further invest­ments and donations and con­tri­bu­tions of the heart, shall we say, to the Children's Hospital, which other young people in Manitoba will benefit from.

      I should note, of course, that the Winnipeg Police Association had a very suc­cess­ful fundraising drive that evening, which contributes to the overall efforts of the Children's Hospital Foundation, and I see a few foundation staffers in the gallery today.

      So, I want to thank the Winnipeg Police Associ­ation and the Children's Hospital Foundation, but most of all, I want to thank Pacey, Brady and Kiera for inspiring all of us Manitobans to live up to their shining example.

      Miigwech, merci and thank you very much.

Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): I ask leave to speak to the minister's–the Premier's (Mrs. Stefanson) statement.

Madam Speaker: Does the member have leave to respond to the statement? [Agreed]

Mr. Gerrard: I speak today to acknowl­edge three remark­able children's champions, children who have triumphed despite severe medical challenges and who share their story, which speaks to the in­cred­ible advances that have been made in child health, and to the personal journey that these three children and their families have been on to overcome their illness or injury.

      I'm going to say a few words parti­cularly, about the children's champion for this year: Pacey Wall. He's nine years old. He has intestinal failure. With more than 30 surgeries and with the failure of his intestine, he can't eat solid foods, but has to rely on total parenteral nutrition given intravenously.

      Pacey's mother Kim says, even though it sounds like it's hopeless, it's not. We have an amazing team here. We trust them and we have a great relationship with them. When he's feeling good, he's unstoppable. His mother says then you wouldn't know he was sick. He always looks amazing and he's chatting up with everyone he passes in the hall, waving to everybody who walks.

      And he knows his surgeons so well, he'll some­times play pranks on them, like taping a 'fike'–fake spider to his belly right before they begin a procedure. As a pediatrician, I spent many years at the Children's Hospital in Winnipeg, and served for a term as the vice‑president, medical, on the foundation from about '85 to '92. It was an incredible time, working for improvements in the health of children.

       I want to thank all those on the board of the Children's Hospital Foundation, the foundation staff and the volunteers, including the guild members, who support the foundation.

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      I also want to thank all the doctors, nurses and other staff, including child-life specialists, who work at the Children's Hospital and make such a difference for all the children in our province.

      Thank you. Merci. Miigwech.

Members' Statements

Greendell Park Com­mu­nity Centre

Hon. Rochelle Squires (Minister of Families): I'm pleased to rise today with great pride to recog­nize Greendell Park Com­mu­nity Centre, their board of directors, staff and their many volunteers, and to wish them con­gratu­la­tions on 75 years in our com­mu­nity.

      The mission statement for Greendell Park Com­mu­nity Centre is to welcome, include and engage our diverse com­mu­nity through partici­pation in recrea­tional activities. And for over 75 years, they have been over­whelmingly successful in fulfilling this mandate.

      Named after the nearby Greendell Avenue sub­divi­sion, where over 70 war veterans and their families settled under the Veterans' Land Act, the com­mu­nity centre and outdoor skating rink was built in October of 1947 and the facility officially opened its doors with a neighborhood social on November the 8th, 1947.

      Ever since then, Greendell Park Com­mu­nity Centre has been an im­por­tant gathering place for sports and recreation. The annual Winter Carnival and Jam Can Curling Tournament is some­thing the com­mu­nity looks forward to all year long, and I'm always pleased to host my annual summer MLA barbecue on the beautiful grounds on Woodlawn Avenue.

      This com­mu­nity centre is an integral part of our neighbourhood and part of many families' pastimes and histories, including mine, where my husband still reminisces about the times he wore a jersey and played for the Greendell Falcons.

      I ask my colleagues to help me honour Perry Gilmour, the president of the board, who is here today, and to also con­gratu­late all the members of the board, the staff and the volunteers of Greendell Park Com­mu­nity Centre for their con­tri­bu­tions that they make to our com­mu­nity and to wish them another suc­cess­ful 75 years.

      Thank you very much for every­thing you do.

Connor Dewar

Ms. Amanda Lathlin (The Pas-Kameesak): Today, we come together to celebrate a hometown hero who has made us all proud, Connor Dewar. As some of you may know, Connor's from The Pas, lived in Dauphin and–for many years, and is a member of the proud Red River Métis family.

      Connor's journey to the NHL has been nothing short of remarkable. After honing his skills on the ice for his hometown, he went on to play for the Everett Silvertips in the Western Hockey League. It was there that he caught the attention of the Minnesota Wild, who drafted him in the third round of the 2018 NHL entry draft.

      Since joining the Wild, Connor has proven to be a force to be reckoned with. His speed, skill and tenacity on the ice have made him a fan favourite and a valuable member of the team. He has also become a role model for young hockey players in Manitoba, inspiring them to pursue their dreams and work hard to achieve their goals.

      But Connor's impact extends far beyond the rink. He has been an outspoken member of the Métis community, giving back in numerous ways, being a vocal advocate for Indigenous kids in sports and serving as a positive example for all young people. His dedication to the sport and his commitment is–to making a difference in the lives of others are truly inspiring.

      So today we salute Connor Dewar, a talented athlete, a dedicated community member, an ambas­sador for northern Manitoba and a truly inspiring young Indigenous athlete. We are honored to call him one of our own and look forward to watching him continue to shine on and off the ice.

      I would like everyone to join me in thanking Connor for making the trip here to be in the gallery today. Thank you, Connor, for representing our com­munity with such grace and excellence. We wish you all the best in your future endeavors and we all know you will continue to make us proud.

      Ekosi.

Swan Valley Sport Fishing Enhancement

Mr. Rick Wowchuk (Swan River): I rise today to recog­nize all the volunteers and board members of the Swan Valley sport fish en­hance­ment organi­zation.

      At their recent annual banquet, the group celebrated 37 years of enhancing Manitoba's world-class fishery. This has earned the group a reputation of pro­fes­sional excellence.

      Our exceptional fisheries staff, invaluable work of our con­ser­va­tion officers, our com­mercial and recreational fisheries, our rural com­mu­nities and our First Nations, all working together, will continue to make Manitoba's world‑class fishery sus­tain­able and viable for gen­era­tions to come.

      Budget 2023 reflects this importance, and our gov­ern­ment is again delivering. The $20-million endowment fund to the Fish and Wildlife En­hance­ment Fund in 2020 will continue to support critical fish and wildlife projects every year. Over three quar­ters of a million dollars was granted this year alone to 16 organi­zations for 21 fish and wildlife en­hance­ment projects. This is a testament to the success.

      Madam Speaker, I want to finish by recog­nizing two individuals of the Swan Valley fish en­hance­ment group, Brock Koutecky and Holly Urban. These two con­ser­va­tion-minded enthusiasts worked countless hours to create Manitoba's newest and most exciting fishery, West Watjask Lake.

      After evaluation with fisheries staff, they found this lake to be a feasible muskie lake. In 2017 and 2019, muskie were stocked, and a success it has been, producing 48 master angler muskie so far. Holly and Brock's work are the reason this lake is a master angler fishery. Hard work by a group like Swan Valley sport fish en­hance­ment and fisheries staff working col­lab­o­ratively with the public is the recipe for success.

      Swan Valley sport fishing can be proud of their many accom­plish­ments. And I invite you next May to their 38th annual banquet. We'll see you there.

      Thank you.

Premier's Leadership Record

MLA Nahanni Fontaine (St. Johns): It's become a tradition at the end of each sitting for me to highlight the Premier's (Mrs. Stefanson) greatest hits. Fingers crossed this is the last time I have to get up in the House and do this.

      She refuses to make Orange Shirt Day–[interjection]

Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.

Madam Speaker: Order.

MLA Fontaine: –a statutory holiday. [interjection]

Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.

Madam Speaker: Order.

MLA Fontaine: She forgot to disclose $31 million–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

MLA Fontaine: –in property sales, breaking the conflict of interest rules in the process. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

MLA Fontaine: She can't name a single MMIWG2S national inquiry's calls to justice.

      She attacked community organizations providing harm reduction services.

      She's let MPI get to $200 million-plus over bud­get and years behind schedule on the Project Nova.

      Continues to take millions of our dollars out of our schools and send cheques to billionaires. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

MLA Fontaine: She's actually worried that Loblaws is going to go out of business if she doesn't–get help from them.

      Tried to hide her secret plan to cut millions of dollars from school divisions.

      Skipped out on walking on Pride.

      Awarded a residential school denier multiple government appointments.

      Stands by her Health Minister's repeated failures, including the mass resignation of nurses from the SANE program.

      Repeatedly misleads Manitobans on health-care staffing numbers.

      Her diagnostic and surgical task force working group doesn't even include any doctors.

      Refuses to give allied health workers a fair deal after five years still.

      Madam Speaker, Manitobans deserve a govern­ment who shares their priorities: a strong health-care system, quality education for our kids, an affordable standard of living and a province where human rights are respected and people can live freely and authen­tically.

      Fortunately for Manitobans, they can show this Premier and her PC caucus how they feel about her repeated failures–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: The member's time has expired.

Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.

Madam Speaker: Order.

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Canada Day Pickleball Tournament

Ms. Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Have you ever played pickleball? And did you know that pickle­ball is one of the fastest-growing sports here in Canada?

      Well, every year, my father and I host an event for Canada Day, behind Tyndall Park school, with Tyndall Park Com­mu­nity Centre, and this year we will be adding a pickleball tournament to our agenda.

      Through­out the day there will be lots of games, enter­tain­ment, face painting. We'll have captain Canada challenges and, of course, our fireworks.

      But Madam Speaker, what I really want to high­light is the new addition of pickleball and extend the invitation that if you've played before, and want to enter and register for the tournament on Canada Day, please let my office know by Monday, June 12th and we'll make sure to get you signed up.

      Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Introduction of Guests

Madam Speaker: There are a number of guests that I would like to intro­duce to you this afternoon, if I could have everybody's attention.

      I'd like to draw the attention of all hon­our­able members to the Speaker's Gallery, where we have with us today: Mr. Amit Bindra of Winnipeg; Mr. Harbans Singh, Winnipeg; and Shamsher Sandhu, visiting, Chandigarh, India, who are the guests of the hon­our­able Minister of Labour and Immigration (Mr. Reyes). And–behalf of all members here, we welcome you to the Manitoba Legislature.

      Also, in the public gallery, we have the daughter of the hon­our­able member for The Pas‑Kameesak (Ms. Lathlin), Natanis Pascal, who is in the gallery.

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Madam Speaker: And it is time to say farewell to three more pages.

      The first one is Bhavika Sandhu: I am beyond grateful to have been chosen as a legislative page this past year. I will be graduating from St. Mary's Academy in June and will be attending Western Uni­ver­sity to pursue an education in political science. I will always be grateful for the opportunity that I had to learn about the legislative process here in Manitoba. This past year has been unforgettable and I had made memories that will last a lifetime. Through this experience, I have found a greater appreciation for all the hard work that is put into improving Manitoba. I would like to thank all the MLAs, clerks, journals and Chamber branch members for making this past year memorable. Finally, I would like to say thank you to my teachers, parents and friends for supporting me this past year.

      And Bhavika is joined by her mother, Inderjit, and her grandparents and, of course, her father, the MLA for The Maples.

      The next page is Oscar Lavitt: Working at the legislature as a page this year has been an incredible experience. Whether it was getting beverages for members, taking in question period, getting to know the members, or trying not to laugh at some of the more clever heckling, there was never a dull moment, except perhaps some of the committee meetings. I've learned a great deal about the government this year. I've seen how hard each of you work and your commitment to improving our great province.

      This June, I will be graduating from St. Paul's High School. I will be attending the University of Ottawa next year, where I plan on pursuing a degree in political science and economics. I enjoyed being a page so much, in fact, that I will be doing it again next year, but this time at the federal level. I will be working in the House of Commons in Ottawa, and I hope it's just as good as an experience that I've had here in Manitoba's Legislature.

      I wish all of you the best, and thank you very much for the opportunity to work in this great Chamber.

      And Oscar is joined by his parents, Fran and Russ, who are in the public gallery.

      And Tunteya Stoller: Being a legislative page has been an experience of a lifetime that I will never, ever forget. I learned so much. I had the chance to meet so many amazing people, and I have so much respect for the individuals that make this place run smoothly. This incredible opportunity has given me a new perspective and so much knowledge on the legislative process. And because of this, I am now considering pursuing law and politics after I graduate from high school next year.

      I will forever be grateful for this experience because I know that this is not something that everyone gets this chance to do. I have been inspired by all of you here, working to make our province a better place. So, thank you so much.

      And on behalf of all members, we wish the three of you the very best in your future endeavours, and con­gratu­la­tions on your suc­cess­ful year here and all the best.

Oral Questions

Rural Paramedics and Nurses
Staffing Level Concerns

Mr. Wab Kinew (Leader of the Official Opposition): There is a crisis in health care in Manitoba. We've learned that this Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) cut the number of paramedics working in rural Manitoba by 87 positions.

      The same Premier cut the number of nurses working in the city of Winnipeg by 300–300 fewer nurses working in the capital of our province since the PCs took office.

      There's a crisis in health care, and the PC gov­ern­ment's cuts are the reason why.

      Can the Premier explain to the people of Manitoba why there are nearly 100 fewer rural paramedics and 300 fewer nurses working in our province since when she took office?

Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): Madam Speaker, the Leader of the Op­posi­tion continues to put false infor­ma­tion on the record in this Chamber.

      Almost $8 billion in our health‑care system that we're investing, $668 million more than last year, Madam Speaker. A 9.2 per cent increase to our health-care budget.

      And when it comes to paramedics, in our Budget 2022, we hired 35 ad­di­tional primary‑care paramed­ics, making an $8‑million invest­ment that, I will remind Manitobans, the Leader of the Op­posi­tion and all members opposite voted against it.

Madam Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a supplementary question.

Mr. Kinew: Just want to point out for careful observers that the Premier is always trying to distract from the cuts that they've made to health care.

      And I guess it makes sense because nobody in Manitoba wants to see cuts made to our health‑care system. Nobody in Manitoba asked for the PC gov­ern­ment to cut 300–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Kinew: –nursing positions from the city of Winnipeg. Certainly no one in rural Manitoba who's been raising the alarm about longer rural EMS wait times asked for this gov­ern­ment to cut the number of rural paramedics by 87.

      And yet, in spite of the fact that the people of Manitoba want more health care and not less, this PC gov­ern­ment only expands the health‑care bureau­cracy while cutting the front lines of the people who actually deliver care to patients in need in our province. These are the shocking truths that we're revealing for all members here in the Chamber today.

      I would just want to ask the Premier: Why did she cut 300 nurses and 87 rural paramedics from our province? [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order. Order.

Mrs. Stefanson: Well, let's put some facts on the record.

      In fact, we are making historic invest­ments in our health‑care system: almost $8 billion, a 9.2 per cent increase over last year. Members opposite voted against that. They voted against all of our budgets that had an increase to health care by some 22 per cent, Madam Speaker.

      So, we will take no lessons from the members opposite.

Madam Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a final supplementary.

Mr. Kinew: The cavalier dismissal of the true facts on health care is unbecoming of a premier, and she should address the fact that she reduced the number of  nurses working in Winnipeg by 300. She should address the fact that there are 87 fewer paramedics working in rural Manitoba today.

      Now, Madam Speaker, we know that there is a  reason that 7,000 members of MAHCP voted 99 per cent in favour of a strike. It's because there's a crisis in health care, and it was caused by this Premier's cuts, continuing on the health‑care agenda of Brian Pallister, which was to put profits ahead of the patients.

      We say that's wrong, and I'll ask the Premier again just to explain to the people of Manitoba why she cut 300 nurses and 87 rural paramedics.

Mrs. Stefanson: Madam Speaker, it's unbecoming of someone who wants to be the premier of this province to, day in and day out, get up in this Manitoba Legis­lature and put false infor­ma­tion on the record.

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      Record invest­ments–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mrs. Stefanson: –in health care, Madam Speaker, 9.2 per cent increase over last year. Members opposite had a chance. They could have voted in favour of that. What did they do? They voted against those increases to our health‑care system. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

      The hon­our­able Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion, on a new question.

Edu­ca­tion System
Gov­ern­ment Funding Plan

Mr. Wab Kinew (Leader of the Official Opposition): In November 2021, this Premier announced that she was going to change the edu­ca­tion funding model in this province. But now she's flip‑flopped and tried to change tack by saying she's going to conceal this new edu­ca­tion funding model from the people of Manitoba until after they vote in this year's election.

      However, the enterprising and loyal op­posi­tion have unveiled the truth of their plan, and it's not good. It means millions of dollars cut from school divisions across the province while the PCs keep handing out cheques to out‑of‑province billionaires.

      Pembina Trails, St. James, Louis Riel School Division, Seven Oaks, Lord Selkirk–and the list go on–will all see cuts to the tune of millions of dollars.

      Will the Premier tell the House why she's hiding her plan to cut school funding for Manitobans?

Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): Madam Speaker, it's not hiding a plan when we tabled it in the very Chamber, in the way of a budget: a $100‑million increase to the edu­ca­tion budget alone; a 6.1 per cent increase to edu­ca­tion funding in the province of Manitoba just last year alone; 6.1 per cent increase, and a 23 per cent increase since we came into office.

      We'll take no lessons from members opposite.

Madam Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion, on a supplementary question.

Mr. Kinew: Manitobans are rightly concerned that the PC gov­ern­ment, the Stefanson gov­ern­ment, is trying to do to our schools what they've already done to our hospitals.

      We, as the Manitoba NDP, will not let them. We're going to stand up for health care. We're going to stand up for edu­ca­tion too.

      Now, we know that the only way that the Premier can pay for all of the an­nounce­ments and press releases that she puts out day after day is by making cuts to edu­ca­tion funding. That's why we shared the docu­ments that show that some school divisions would see cuts of more than $10 million. We're talking $11 million in annual school funding cut under the plan for the PCs.

      So we know, in their operation desperation, the election year Hail Mary that they're rolling out, they're trying to be all things to all people. But we still know who the PCs are: the same party that cut health care, that's now trying to come for our schools. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Kinew: Why is the Premier hiding her plan to cut edu­ca­tion funding in Manitoba?

Mrs. Stefanson: Well, on the topic of desperation, Madam Speaker, the Leader of the Op­posi­tion is so des­per­ate to get into gov­ern­ment that he'll just say anything in this Chamber, and he continues to put false infor­ma­tion on the record.

      Manitobans know, more than a $100‑million increase to our edu­ca­tion budget over last year, a 6.1 per cent increase. Every single school division across the province of Manitoba saw an increase.

      And Manitobans should all know that those invest­ments that were made were voted against by the NDP.

Madam Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a final supplementary.

Mr. Kinew: In 2016, Brian Pallister said there would be no cuts to health care.

      But then what happened? What happened to the Victoria General emergency room? What happened to the Seven Oaks emergency room? What happened to the Concordia emergency room? What happened to the CancerCare headquarters? What happened to the CancerCare com­mu­nity care clinics? What happened to the special drugs program?

      All of these health-care programs were cut by Brian Pallister, with this Premier acting as his Health minister.

      With that record on health care, we know that that's what they have planned for the edu­ca­tion system next. We've shared docu­ments that show that Louis Riel, Seven Oaks, Pembina Trails would all be cut to the tune of millions of dollars a year. That's the only way the PCs can try to pay for their press releases.

      We say it's wrong. We'll stand again their–against their cuts every day.

      The only question remaining for the Premier is to explain to Manitobans why she's hiding these plans for cuts from the people of Manitoba.

Mrs. Stefanson: Madam Speaker, Manitobans know that we can't hide some­thing that is tabled in the Chamber. It's free for everyone to see and to look at.

      And the fact of the matter is in that budget, Madam Speaker, a $100‑million increase to edu­ca­tion alone. Not one single school division–every single school division saw an increase to their budget.

      Health-care increase since we took office, a 22 per cent increase; edu­ca­tion, 23 per cent increase; social services, a 25 per cent increase.

      And every single time, the NDP voted against it. Shame on them.

Edu­ca­tion System
Gov­ern­ment Funding Plan

Mr. Jamie Moses (St. Vital): We know what this PC gov­ern­ment's agenda is: it's more cuts to schools.

      Their plan, which they tried to keep secret, cuts millions of dollars from divisions around the province in their new funding formula. The Louis Riel School Division in parti­cular will have a cut of $10 million with the PC gov­ern­ment's plans.

      That's a lot of flashy promises and an­nounce­ments that the PCs make in an election year, but we all know that they'll pay for it with cuts in the classroom. That's why they tried to hide the new funding formula from Manitobans until after the election.

      So will the Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) stand up today and will she explain why she insists on continuing to cut edu­ca­tion in Manitoba?

Hon. Wayne Ewasko (Minister of Education and Early Childhood Learning): I'm not sure if there was a news release out today or what, but it looks like there's been a shuffle in the op­posi­tion benches there, Madam Speaker.

      Madam Speaker, this member knows that we have increased funding to the tune of $100 million, a 6.1 per cent increase. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Ewasko: And this member is very much aware that for 20-plus years all our edu­ca­tion partners are screaming, saying that they wanted a change in the funding formula.

      Madam Speaker, we're doing what they couldn't do, didn't do, didn't want to do.

      They're running a campaign of fear, Madam Speaker. That's what they're going to do. Nobody wants to go back to the dark days of the NDP.

Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.

Madam Speaker: Order.

      I'm going to caution all members, there is–heck­ling is becoming an issue at the moment and since we started oral questions, and it is becoming difficult to hear. So, I'm going to ask for everybody's co‑operation.

      The honourable member for St. Vital, on a supplementary question.

Mr. Moses: Madam Speaker, Manitobans don't want more cuts to edu­ca­tion. They've already seen seven years of cuts from this PC gov­ern­ment, and it's had a real impact on schools.

      Fewer teachers in the classrooms mean less one-on-one time for students. Fewer supports means if your child needs help, they might not be able to get it. That hurts kids, and it's simply the wrong approach.

      The PC plan to cut another $10 million from the Louis Riel School Division is devastating for kids. Manitobans know that this PC gov­ern­ment's empty election promises will come at the cost of supports in the classroom.

      So, will the Premier come clean with Manitobans today and will she tell us that her real plan is to cut edu­ca­tion in schools? [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Ewasko: Madam Speaker, the member is just completely incorrect and running again on his leader's fear‑mongering tactics.

      So, Louis Riel School Division, under our Premier–the Premier and the MLA for Tuxedo–Louis Riel School Division, couple years ago, 11.8 per cent increase–that's 2021-22; '22-23, 6.1 per cent increase; '23-24, Madam Speaker, an 8.4 per cent increase.

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      Madam Speaker, that's more than less. I strongly recom­mend the NDP to get on the board for some numeracy lessons. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

      The honourable member for St. Vital, on a final supplementary.

Mr. Moses: Well, Madam Speaker, let me just table the facts for the minister, if he's so unsure, so that the–he can actually educate himself on the reality of their plan. Maybe it's even secret from himself.

      The plan says that they're going to cut $10 million from the Louis Riel School Division. They tried to hide it until after the election, but Manitobans deserve to know the truth and the gov­ern­ment's real agenda. Now, after seven years of cuts, Manitobans don't believe this gov­ern­ment because they know they have a track record of empty provinces.

      They know this PC gov­ern­ment will pay for all of their election promises with cuts to the classroom, and  they want, today, the Premier to stand up and apologize.

      So, will she commit today to stop cutting edu­ca­tion from students in Manitoba?

Mr. Ewasko: Madam Speaker, the only cuts that we're doing are cutting taxes for individuals, making life more affordable in Manitoba, making sure that students are going to achieve success in this great province of ours, no matter where they live, their cultural back­ground or their own personal circum­stance.

      It looks like the NDP maybe cut their budget on photocopying, Madam Speaker. This plan that the member tabled was a rejected plan; we had gone forward with $100 million, a 6.1 per cent increase this year alone. I had already tabled and listed off a whole lot of percentage increases–23 per cent since we formed gov­ern­ment.

      We're not going to take any lessons from the NDP, nor should any Manitobans; and I ap­pre­ciate the media being here to see that the NDP are putting more false things on the record, Madam Speaker. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Edu­ca­tion System
Gov­ern­ment Funding Plan

MLA Nahanni Fontaine (St. Johns): Well, after seven long, long years of deep cuts, the PCs are making empty promises left and right in an election year: you get a million dollars; you get a million dollars.

      Manitobans know that they can't trust the PCs to follow through on their promises. And even if they did try to follow through, Manitobans want to know how the PCs will pay for all of these an­nounce­ments.

      The only way that the PCs can pay for their an­nounce­ments is to cut edu­ca­tion, including an $11‑million cut to the Seven Oaks School Division. And I'll table the docu­ment.

      Why is the Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) so com­mitted to cutting our children's edu­ca­tion and their future?

Hon. Rochelle Squires (Minister responsible for Gender Equity): Madam Speaker, let me put some facts on the record.

      Earlier this year, our gov­ern­ment made a com­mit­ment to Velma's place, which is a 24-7 safe space for  women, some­thing that the members opposite should've supported. What did that member do when she had a chance to support women in need in this province? She voted against it.

      Shame on her.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for St. Johns, on a supplementary question.

MLA Fontaine: Since the day that the PCs took office, they have refused to support Manitoba schools.

      Years of PC cuts have forced the Seven Oaks School Division to consider cutting the Learn to Swim program, up to 50 staff and after-school program.  

      We know what the PCs' real agenda is for edu­ca­tion after the election. Their hidden funding model makes it clear they plan on making cuts to the edu­ca­tion, including an $11-million cut to the Seven Oaks School Division. That's just horrible, Madam Speaker.

      Will the Premier stop hiding her plan and simply admit her plan to Manitobans before the upcoming election?

Ms. Squires: Irrespective of the false infor­ma­tion that that member is putting on the record, our gov­ern­ment has an agenda to make life better for women in the province of Manitoba.

      That is why we took our women's resource centres and our women's shelters funding from $5 million to $15 million. We nearly quadrupled the invest­ment in women's pro­gram­ming.

      And what did that member do? She voted against it.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for St. Johns, on a final supplementary.

MLA Fontaine: Madam Speaker, after seven long, long years, the PCs are making empty promises in an election year in a des­per­ate attempt to buy back support.

      We know the only way that PCs can pay for these an­nounce­ments is to cut edu­ca­tion, to cut the future of Manitoba children. We've seen the docu­ments; I've tabled the docu­ments. The PC' hidden edu­ca­tion funding model includes an $11‑million cut to Seven Oaks School Division.

      This is just wrong, Madam Speaker.

      Can the Premier explain why she's planning on cutting $11 million to the Seven Oaks School Division, and why she's hiding it until after the prov­incial election?

Hon. Wayne Ewasko (Minister of Education and Early Childhood Learning): What's wrong with the member's statement is just the plain misinformation that the member continues to put on the record, Madam Speaker.

      It's actually great that some students are in the gallery today to see, on that side of the House is all fiction, on this side of the House is all facts, Madam Speaker.

      Madam Speaker, I ap­pre­ciate the question on the funding model review. Just yesterday, we announced that we are unpausing the funding model review and, in addition to that, under the leadership of this great Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) of ours, we're making sure that there's a funding guarantee. As we can–as we transition into the new funding model, all school divisions will receive an increase.

      Dead wrong on that side of the House, Madam Speaker. Old talking points from an old, tired op­posi­tion party that will stay there for years and years to come. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Introduction of Guests

Madam Speaker: We have some guests that just arrived in the gallery, and they're not there for a very long time.

      We have, seated in the public gallery, from Linden Christian, 52 grade 9 students under the direc­tion of Jason Smoker. And this group is located in the con­stit­uency of the hon­our­able member for Fort Whyte (Mr. Khan).

      On behalf of all members here, we welcome you to the Manitoba Legislature.

Justice System–Rural Manitoba
Circuit Court Hearing Cancellations

Mr. Matt Wiebe (Concordia): We've recently learned that the PC gov­ern­ment is cancelling a multitude of circuit court hearings through­out rural Manitoba. I'll table the docu­ment that shows this.

      This includes four cancellations in Altona, two in Arborg, six in Emerson, six in Gimli, three in Lundar, 13 in Selkirk, 22 in Steinbach and two in Stonewall. That's con­cern­ing, Madam Speaker.

      Everyone has a right to timely access to justice, and we're worried that the PCs' cancellations will cause further harm to Manitobans and their com­mu­nities.

      Can the minister explain why he is cancelling 58 circuit court hearings while violent crime is increasing under this PC government's watch?

Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Minister of Justice and Attorney General): We know, Madam Speaker, that courts and circuit courts are delayed for a variety of different reasons that have to do with individual factors within the court system itself.

      That member opposite, just a few months ago, was raising the alarm that every day, he said, that there would be cancellations on northern circuit court scheduling, and that wasn't true. And so I don't take the member's opinion as fact, ever, in this House. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order. [interjection]

      I'm going to call the Minister for Consumer Protec­tion to order.

      The honourable member for Concordia, on a supplementary question.

Mr. Wiebe: I invite the minister to look at the docu­ment I tabled, which proves that these recently announced cancellations are affecting many court circuit dates across the province.

      The docu­ment, in fact, shows that 58 cancel­lations are being done, and I quote, in an effort to provide timely access to justice. End quote. But that, of course, defies logic: cancelling circuit court dates doesn't increase access to justice, it does the opposite.

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      This decision will negatively impact Manitobans in com­mu­nities like Selkirk and Gimli, in Altona and more. We know the PC cuts to justice have made our com­mu­nities less safe and these cancellations are just another example.

      Can the minister explain how he can claim he's ensuring timely access to justice while cancelling 58 circuit court dates in the next while?

Mr. Goertzen: That actually wasn't me who said that, that is signed by the chief judge of the Provincial Court of Manitoba. Perhaps you'd like to apologize to her.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Concordia, on a final supplementary.

Mr. Wiebe: Well, I'm glad to be catching the minister up to speed on this im­por­tant issue.

      We've re­peat­edly the–raised concerns with PC  cuts and mis­manage­ment within the justice system. They've cut programs to improve safety and have failed to support Crown prosecutors who are overworked and burnt out. The result is that violent crime has increased under their watch and our com­mu­nities are less safe.

      And now we've learned that the PCs are going to  cancel 58 court–circuit court dates across rural Manitoba, all while claiming this, quote, will provide timely access to justice. That makes no sense, Madam Speaker.

      Will the Stefanson gov­ern­ment just stop making cuts to justice and reverse the 58 circuit court cancel­lations that are scheduled?

Mr. Goertzen: I'm shocked that the member opposite would disparage the Provincial Court chief judge in this House in the way that he has.

      But he issues–or he raises the issue of violent crime and wonders why it's going up. It's going up because there's a lot of things, including bail reform, that need to change in the country. This is a gov­ern­ment, this is a Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) who led that bail reform fight.

      There needs to be more work to do, but there are some, including some in his caucus, who feel that violent offenders already are getting–are–should be released more often and more easily. In fact, if he wants to note one of those members, he can just turn behind him, who advocated for letting more people out on jail who are violent offenders.

Manitoba Hydro
Rate Increase Concerns

Mr. Adrien Sala (St. James): The PC gov­ern­ment's hydro rate hikes are hurting Manitobans during a cost‑of‑living crisis. Rates have gone up 20 per cent under this gov­ern­ment since 2016, and now they want to raise rates another 5 per cent over the next year.

      The Canadian Federation of In­de­pen­dent Busi­nesses wrote a letter calling on this PC gov­ern­ment to cancel their planned rate increase. I'll table it for members opposite to read again–not that they read it last time we intro­duced it.

      Will the Premier listen to Manitoba small-busi­ness owners and cancel the rate hike today?

Hon. Cliff Cullen (Minister responsible for Manitoba Hydro): Well, Madam Speaker, our gov­ern­ment is reducing payments–transfer payments from Manitoba Hydro to the gov­ern­ment of Manitoba, $190 million this year. That takes the rate increase on 3.6 to 2 per cent.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for St. James, on a supplementary question.

Mr. Sala: Small busi­nesses are still struggling coming out of the pandemic, but the PC gov­ern­ment is making it even harder for them to keep their doors open. Higher electricity costs means small busi­nesses will have fewer resources to create jobs, invest in their busi­nesses and contribute to the prov­incial economy. The PC gov­ern­ment's rate hikes have put a massive burden on busi­ness owners and their families.

      CFIB represents over 4,000 Manitoba busi­nesses and they're asking this gov­ern­ment to reconsider their planned rate increase.

      Will the minister change course and stop hiking hydro rates today?

Mr. Cullen: Well, Madam Speaker, the members opposite should do their homework.

      What's happening in Nova Scotia: 6.9 per cent increase; New Brunswick, 4.8 per cent; SaskPower next door, 4 per cent; Hydro‑Québec busi­ness, 6.5 per cent; industry, 4.2 per cent.

      Here in Manitoba: 2 per cent.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for St. James, on a final supplementary.

Mr. Sala: I hope the minister listens closely to this bit of infor­ma­tion, which they like to deny.

      CFIB says that the PC gov­ern­ment's Bill 36, quote, draws serious concern, end quote, for how it limits the Public Utilities Board's ability to in­de­pen­dently review rate increases.

      That's shameful. This PC gov­ern­ment didn't like the PUB's in­de­pen­dent oversight of hydro rates, so they rewrote the law to let them hike up rates 5 per cent every year. This is hurting Manitoba families, not just on their resi­den­tial rates, but also for their busi­nesses.

      The last thing they need–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Sala: The last thing they need is yet another hydro rate hike from this gov­ern­ment.

      Will the minister do the right thing, listen to small-busi­ness owners and cancel the planned rate hike today?

Mr. Cullen: Madam Speaker, what is shameful was the legacy the NDP left Manitoba Hydro in–$24 billion of debt, obviously, having to be serviced on the backs of Manitoba homes.

      We're taking bold measures, saving ratepayers $190 million this year alone. We are creating a strong Manitoba Hydro. We're also reducing rates to Manitobans.

      And not only that, Madam Speaker, they didn't like the PUB. They went around the PUB. We're actually strengthening the PUB with an ad­di­tional $2-million invest­ment in the PUB.

Construction of Churchill River Dam
First Nations Lawsuit for Damages

Mr. Dougald Lamont (St. Boniface): When we talk about reconciliation in Manitoba, the role of the Province and Hydro should be near the top of the list.

      O-Pipon-Na-Piwin Cree Nation, OPCN, and two other com­mu­nity associations have launched a lawsuit against Manitoba Hydro because of a massive dam that diverts the Churchill River that was built 50 years ago against the com­mu­nities wishes.

      The project resulted in the forced relocation of the entire com­mu­nity of South Indian Lake and the imposed burning of the previous settlement. The fishery, which made the com­mu­nity a beacon of northern self-reliance and stability for decades, has collapsed.

      Now, Hydro knows the damage they've done. We all do.

      Why are First Nations, whose com­mu­nities were ruined by Hydro and broken gov­ern­ment provinces, forced to go to court to get justice?

Hon. Cliff Cullen (Minister responsible for Manitoba Hydro): Certainly, there are certainly challenges when it comes to Hydro dev­elop­ment.

      We recog­nize that. I think Manitoba Hydro recog­nizes as well. Certainly, there's lots of con­ver­sa­tions going on in terms of trying to remedy those situations.

      Clearly, any of these issues before the courts, it's not a good time–not an op­por­tune time for me to speak to that.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for St. Boniface, on a supplementary question.

Mr. Lamont: Now, in 2021, we asked the minister to consult with and listen to the repre­sen­tatives OPCN who were pleading not to give Hydro what they called a licence to destroy.

      This is a massive Hydro project that was allowed to operate for nearly 50 years, no matter who was in gov­ern­ment, with an interim licence.

      In 1986, the gov­ern­ment granted Hydro's request to deviate from the licence, raising the lake further with the con­di­tion that Manitoba Hydro fully mitigate any effects of the altered levels and flows. That's never happened, and the damage is far greater and lasting much longer than it was ever predicted in 1986.

      If we're serious about addressing the harms of the past, this is a big one.

      Will the minister amend the licence to ensure Hydro repairs the damage it did?

Mr. Cullen: I know Manitoba Hydro have been con­sulting with First Nations for a number of years.

      We do realize that there was damages that were certainly occurred in the past, and discussions will continue. In respect of the court cases, we'll certainly wait how the court cases unfold.

      Certainly, I know there is discussions with com­mu­nities. Those discussions will continue. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

      The honourable member for St. Boniface, on a final supplementary.

Mr. Lamont: In 1967, a report warned the Manitoba gov­ern­ment against raising the level of the lake because the impact it would have, but said that they expected it would happen because of this Province's bad treatment of Indigenous people.

      But, under an Indigenous–under an NDP gov­ern­ment in the 1970s, Manitoba Hydro built the Churchill River Diversion Project. They poured cement in the water, blasted a nine-kilometre channel through the forest and forcibly relocated the entire com­mu­nity.

      The Churchill Diversion redirects 85 per cent of the flow of the second largest river in Manitoba, flooded an area twice the side of the–Winnipeg, including culturally sig­ni­fi­cant sites and graves.

      If the Manitoba Hydro and the Stefanson gov­ern­ment are committed to recon­ciliation and righting wrongs, why won't they stop hiring lawyers and sit down to negotiate fair compensation so these com­mu­nities can recover and rebuild?

Mr. Cullen: Well, Madam Speaker, I think the member has certainly indicated there is a long history when it comes to Hydro dev­elop­ment in Manitoba and some of these issues do go way back.

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      We certainly will allow the court cases to unfold as they will, and, clearly, I know there's outstanding licensing issues that have to be dealt with in the future as well.

Cost-of-Living and Tax Relief
Gov­ern­ment Record

Mr. Josh Guenter (Borderland): Manitobans are concerned about the rising cost of living caused by liberal NDP tax-and-spend policies, and there's a fun­da­mental difference between our Conservative Party–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Guenter: –and the NDP. Our Conservative gov­ern­ment is letting Manitobans keep more of their hard-earned money, while the NDP want to raise their taxes.

      Can the Minister of Finance explain for the benefit of members opposite how allowing hard-working Manitoba families to keep more of their money helps to grow our economy? [interjection]

Madam Speaker: I'm going to have to call the member for St. Johns (MLA Fontaine) to order.

Hon. Cliff Cullen (Minister of Finance): I thank the member for Borderland for the question.

      The NDP raised taxes on the backs of Manitobans 36 times in their last tenure in office. This has taken millions of dollars out of the pockets of hard-working Manitobans.

      Our gov­ern­ment takes a different approach. In fact, begin­ning in July of this year, Manitobans will see an increase in their paycheques because of our tax  decreases; in fact, $525 in savings for each Manitoban.

      With our bracket changes in 2024, Manitobans will see $1,400 in savings.

      In addition, Madam Speaker, this year's budget, 47,000 low-income Manitobans will come off the tax rolls altogether. That is true and long-term savings for Manitobans. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: I'm going to have to call the member for Point Douglas (Mrs. Smith) to order as well. [interjection] Order.

Rural Paramedic Services
Response Times and Staffing

Mr. Diljeet Brar (Burrows): Madam Speaker, the PCs' cuts continue to negatively affect rural Manitobans. We recently learned that, since 2018, rural paramedic response times are taking up to 30 per cent longer.

      And there's nearly 33 per cent vacancy rates among rural paramedics. And at the same time, paramedics have gone the last five years without a contract.

      These are not coincidences. Paramedics are tired of being disrespected and overworked by this PC gov­ern­ment and are looking for work elsewhere.

      Can the Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) explain: Why has she failed to support rural paramedics?

Hon. James Teitsma (Minister of Consumer Protection and Government Services): We value and respect rural paramedics and all paramedics and everyone in our health-care system.

      Negotiations are under way, not at this table, but at the bargaining table where they should be. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

      The honourable member for Burrows, on a supplementary question.

Mr. Brar: Madam Speaker, when someone in rural Manitoba calls 911, they're having to wait up to 30 per cent longer for a paramedic compared to 2018. That's unacceptable.

      The PCs' cuts have caused response times to increase and have driven paramedics to seek work elsewhere. Rural Manitobans are suffering as a result.

      Can the Premier explain: Why is she failing rural Manitobans when it comes to health care?

Mr. Teitsma: Madam Speaker, I sure hope this member is not attempting to destabilize the bargaining work that's–the good work that's happening.

      That's where the work needs to happen, is at the bargaining table, and he should allow it to continue.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Burrows, on a final supplementary.

Mr. Brar: I'm simply asking a question, and it deserves an answer. The PCs' cuts are having–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Brar: –adverse impacts on rural Manitobans. They have closed rural ERs. They have failed to fill massive vacancy rates. And they have failed to hire–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Brar: –doctors.

      And now, we have learned that rural paramedic response times have gone up dramatically under the PCs. Compared to 2018, it takes up to 30 per cent longer for paramedics to respond to the most serious emergencies. That's moving in the wrong direction.

      The Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) needs to commit to stop cutting rural Manitobans' health care and properly support front-line workers like paramedics.

      Will she do so today?

Mr. Teitsma: I think the NDP are forgetting that they are the ones who closed 20 rural emergency rooms across this province. Shame on them.

      We are investing in rural health care–[interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order.

Mr. Teitsma: –like never before, with new hospitals being built and new emergencies and expansions to emergency rooms. That's invest­ment, not like what members opposite did.

Paid Leave for Miscarriage or Stillbirth
Request for Gov­ern­ment to Pass Bill 210

Ms. Amanda Lathlin (The Pas-Kameesak): It is esti­mated that in–one in five pregnancies end in miscarriage. When a family experiences this devas­tating loss, they should not face the added burden of lost wages while they take the time to grieve.

      Bill 210 would have provided guaranteed paid leave to families grieving a pregnancy loss. This is an amend­ment our party has brought forward three times now, and it's long overdue.

      Bill 210 has passed second reading, but will this gov­ern­ment do the right thing and pass the right bill and see it through royal assent?

      Ekosi.

Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Minister of Justice and Attorney General): Well, it's a historic time in the Manitoba Legislature with 15 private members' bills having already passed third reading.

      One of those bills was the bill brought forward by the hon­our­able member for Rossmere (Mr. Micklefield) that'll provide, for the first time in the province of Manitoba, leave for those who are dealing with a miscarriage. This is a historic bill, an im­por­tant bill that'll provide support and relief for those families who are dealing with a miscarriage.

      I want to thank the hon­our­able member for Rossmere, commend him for bringing forward this bill and suc­cess­fully getting it passed today, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker: The time for oral questions has expired.

Petitions

Third Party Advertising Practices

Mr. Jim Maloway (Elmwood): I wish to present the following petition to the Legis­lative Assembly.

      The back­ground of this petition is as follows:

      (1) In 2006, the City of Winnipeg announced it would tear down Kelvin Com­mu­nity Club, which sparked huge op­posi­tion from local residents.

      (2) As the MLA for the area, the member for Elmwood sponsored two ads to CanStar Com­mu­nity News Herald on October 19 and October 26, 2006, advertising the October 29, 2006 Kelvin Com­mu­nity Centre Halloween barbecue, which was reported by the Winnipeg Free Press on October 30, 2006.

      (3) The ads were approved and paid for by Members' Allowances, as was a third similar ad run in the Winnipeg Free Press.

      (4) Two months later, city council set a date for the decisive vote on the future of the club at its Wednesday, January 24th, 2007 meeting at 9:30 a.m.

      (5) The member for Elmwood received Members' Allowances approval to produce a pro­fes­sional TV ad, and ran mainly–and ran the ad mainly on CTV, which gave a 50 per cent discount, as it was a com­mu­nity club. The ad asked people to phone the mayor and attend the council meeting Wednesday, January 24th, 2007 at 9:30 a.m.

      (6) Almost one year later, a CTV reporter ques­tioned the ads and save Kelvin campaign expenses. CTV offered an apology after it was discovered that a PC staffer deliberately misled the reporter. She was ultimately fired for her role in the events.

      (7) On June 2008, shortly after a request was made by the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, the Manitoba Auditor General decided to conduct a detailed audit of allowance claims and covered 100 per cent of Members' Allowances claims for the two-year period from April 1st, 2006 to March 31, 2008.

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      (8) Pages 125 to 127 of their November 2009 audit report noted that the audit covered all Members' Allowances and printing claims from all MLAs and found nothing–quote: Nothing came to our attention during this audit to suggest that material inappropriate spending was taking place.

      (9) The date of the auditor's report was November 2009, leaving only two months of the two‑year statutory limit to file a 'defination'–defamation suit, which originated with the CTV report of January 18, 2008. This would have given little, if any, time to proceed with court action against CTV.

      (10) The Regina-based Canada Growth Council, a branch of the Canada Strong and Free Network, formerly the Manning Centre, is now conducting a paid ad campaign which includes defamatory ads on Facebook, which have been proved false in 2008.

      We petition the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the Attorney General and the Com­mis­sioner of Elections to consider the legality of out-of-province, third party advertising by the out-of-province Canada Gross [phonetic] Council through its social media plat­form on Facebook, which, in its sponsored Manitoba Watch 2023, are spreading ads that have been proven defamatory.

      And this petition's signed by many, many Manitobans.

Madam Speaker: In accordance with our rule 133(6), when petitions are read they are deemed to be received by the House.

      Further petitions?

Construction Wages

MLA Malaya Marcelino (Notre Dame): Madam Speaker, I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly.

      To the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba, these are the reasons for this petition:

      (1) In 2022, after consultation with industry members, the provincial government mandated the first construction industry minimum wage increase since 2017.

      (2) Construction industry minimum wages for the majority of the industrial, commercial and the institutional sector will increase by 14 per cent from 2022 to 2024.

      (3) These wage increases were necessary to catch up with inflation from the lack of increases since 2017 and to maintain pace with inflation for the next three years.

      (4) However, heat and frost insulators will only receive an 8.91 per cent increase from 2022 to 2024, despite insulators experiencing the same cost of living increases as other trades.

      (5) This lower wage increase will make it more difficult to attract and retain skilled professionals to the heat and frost insulator trade, which will be to the detriment of the construction industry as a whole.

      (6) The 8.91 per cent wage increase will mean that over 300 and frost–heat and frost insulators working in Manitoba will lose roughly $3,578 per year when compared to a 14 per cent increase.

      (7) This lower wage increase is unfair and harms heat and frost insulators and the trade as a whole.

      We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows:

      To urge the provincial government to modify the construction industry minimum wage schedule to implement a 14 per cent increase to the heat and frost insulator trade to reflect a wage of $34.23 in 2024.

      This has been signed by Rob Duarte, Mike Hall, Erin Jorgensen and many Manitobans.

Madam Speaker: Grievances?

ORDERS OF THE DAY

(Continued)

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Government House Leader): I've got three leave requests, and I'll put them to the House separately.

      Could you please canvass the House for leave to call Bill 40, The Combative Sports Amend­ment Act, for concurrence and third reading debate this after­noon, despite the fact that the bill is not yet listed on the Order Paper.

Madam Speaker: Is there leave to call Bill 40, The Combative Sports Amend­ment Act, for concur­rence and third reading debate this afternoon, despite the fact that the bill is not yet listed on the Order Paper?

      Is there leave? [Agreed]

House Business

Mr. Goertzen: This leave request relates to busi­ness tomorrow afternoon.

      Could you please canvass the House for leave to consider con­dol­ence motions in the House tomorrow, May 31st, 2023, under the following arrangement:

      (a) The seven currently outstanding condolence motions for deceased former members of the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba shall be called as the first item of business under orders of the day, govern­ment business, in the following order: Edward Williams, Jean Allard, Jim Carr, Michael Kawchuk, Joseph Paul Marion, Clif Evans and Jay Cowan.

      (b) The party to which each former member belonged shall designate the mover of each motion.

      (c) For each motion, the mover may speak for up to 10 minutes, and any other member wishing to speak will have up to five minutes.

      (d) Once all members wishing to speak have done so, the Speaker shall put the question, asking members to approve the motion by observing a moment of silence.

      (e) Following the passage of each motion, the Speaker's office shall send to the deceased member's family the Hansard transcript from that day–from that sitting day–along with a personal letter of condolence from the Speaker.

      (f) The House shall not see the clock that day until the consideration of all seven motions concludes.

Madam Speaker: Is there leave to consider con­dol­ence motions in the House tomorrow, May 31st, 2023, under the following arrangements:

      (a) The seven currently outstanding con­dol­ence motions for deceased former members of the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba shall be called as the first item of busi­ness under orders of the day, govern­ment busi­ness, in the following order: Edward Williams, Jean Allard, Jim Carr, Michael Kawchuk, Joseph Paul Marion, Clif Evans and Jay Cowan.

      (b) The party to which each former member belonged shall designate the mover of each motion.

      (c) For each motion, the mover may speak for up to 10 minutes, and any other member wishing to speak will have up to five minutes.

      (d) Once all members wishing to speak have done so, the Speaker shall put the question, asking members to approve the motion by observing a moment of silence.

      (e) Following the passage of each motion, the Speaker's office shall send to the deceased member's family the Hansard transcript from that sitting day, along with a personal letter of condolence from the Speaker.

      (f) The House shall not see the clock that day until the consideration of all seven motions concludes.

      Is there leave? [Agreed]

Mr. Goertzen: I thank the House.

      Finally, on the last leave request, could you please canvass the House for leave to allow end-of-session speeches in the House on Thursday, June 1st, 2023 under the following arrangements:

      (a) These speeches shall be called as the first item of business under orders of the day, government busi­ness.

      (b) Any member wishing to speak shall have 10 minutes to do so; and

      (c) The House shall not see the clock that day until all members wishing to speak have done so, and once these speeches conclude, the House will rise.

Madam Speaker: Is there leave to allow end-of-session speeches in the House on Thursday, June 1st, 2023 under the following arrangements:

      (a) These speeches shall be called as the first order of busi­ness under orders of the day, gov­ern­ment busi­ness.

      (b) Any member wishing to speak shall have 10 minutes to do so.

      (c)  The House shall not see the clock that day until all members wishing to speak have done so, and once these speeches conclude, the House will rise.

      Is there leave? [Agreed]

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Mr. Goertzen: Then, for busi­ness this afternoon.

      I recog­nize that we'll have a backstop period at some point, but could you please call for concurrence and third reading Bill 40, 10, 22, 23, 32 and 35.

Madam Speaker: It has been announced that the House will consider the following bills this afternoon: they are on concurrence and third readings of Bill 40, 10, 22, 23, 32 and 35.

Concurrence and Third Readings

Bill 40–The Combative Sports Amend­ment Act

Madam Speaker: So, I will start by calling concur­rence and third reading of Bill 40, The Combative Sports Amend­ment Act.

Hon. Obby Khan (Minister of Sport, Culture and Heritage): I, seconded by the minister of advanced–[interjection] Oh.

      I move, seconded by the Minister of Advanced Edu­ca­tion and Training (Mrs. Guillemard), that Bill 40, The Combative Sports Amend­ment Act, reported from the Standing Committee on Legis­lative Affairs, be concurred in and be now read for a third time and passed.

Motion presented.

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Mr. Khan: Madam Speaker, I am pleased to rise today for the third reading of Bill 40, The Combative Sports Amend­ment Act. This bill makes a number of amend­ments that will benefit Manitoba's combative sport com­mu­nity.

      This act will expand the mandate of the Manitoba Combative Sports Com­mis­sion to include the regula­tion and oversight of designated amateur combative sports, in addition to the regula­tion and oversight of pro­fes­sional combative sports. This will allow for more types of amateur combative sport competitions to take place safely in Manitoba.

      Our gov­ern­ment is committed to enhancing athletes' safety in all sports and in expanding the range of sport activities in the province, including com­bative sports.

      I would like to thank all of the stake­holders and com­mu­nity members that came out to com­mit­tee to speak in favour of the bill. I would like to give a special shout-out to Giuseppe DeNatale, who's joining us here today, owner of CFC gym, for his leadership, passion and drive over the better part of the last decade to make this bill happen, all for kids' safety in this province.

      Thank you, Giuseppe, for your work and leader­ship on this.

      I would also like to thank John McDonald for his work with the Manitoba Combative Sports Com­mis­sion for their co-operation and support through­out the process of developing this legis­lation. We look for­ward to continuing work with the com­mis­sion on matters affecting the combative sport com­mu­nity in the future.

      I would also like to take a second and thank everyone in the House today, as well, for passing this very im­por­tant bill, all for the pro­tec­tion and safety of amateur athletes in this province.

      Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Ms. Amanda Lathlin (The Pas-Kameesak): It's always an honour to put a few words on record as the MLA from The Pas-Kameesak.

      There is amateur combative sport activity already occurring in Manitoba, with the exception of MMA and kick-boxing, as there are no prov­incial sport organi­zations to regulate them. This bill will change that just in time for the World Police & Fire Games, which is occurring in Winnipeg this year.

      There–this is some­thing MMA and kick-boxing enthusiasts have been asking for, so we're happy to see the gov­ern­ment act here.

      Unregulated sports–always a risk to the parti­ci­pants and organizers, one which have–has largely been ignored by regula­tions and gov­ern­ments until now. Combative sports can be dangerous, and unregu­lated amateur competitions lack the oversight or licensing required for certain forms of insurance, although injuries are just as possible.

      Without standards imposed on competitions through the commis­sion, there is fear of inconsistent safety in these competitions, and, as a result, more injuries and conse­quences for organizers are possible. This is especially true for our youth.

      There is–there are sig­ni­fi­cant challenges in regu­lating full-contact martial arts and combative sport, however the alter­na­tive to allow the unlicensed and unregulated activity to continue or ban it outright.

      In offering legal amateur combative sport com­petitions, the hope is that legal and unregulated sport activity will decrease. In a vacuum of nobody to regulate, the events have continued, and belief is that they will continue in the future. If it were to continue, the gov­ern­ment has now acknowl­edged they need to change, so inaction at this point is not really an option any longer.

      In addition to potentially driving economic activ­ity, the goals of this regula­tion are generally beneficial to this province.

      Generally, medical com­mu­nity has accepted that regula­tion is a necessity for combative sports in order to provide medical care. Under the Criminal Code of Canada, it's against the law to partici­pate in any pre-arranged fight with fists, hands or feet, except in certain circum­stances.

      The Criminal Code allows provinces and terri­tories to deter­mine the sports in which amateur contests may be held and with those–and with whose permission, and allow pro­fes­sional boxing and mixed martial arts contests with the permission of a body, such as the office of athletics com­mis­sion.

      There has been comparable jurisdictions that have made this move to regulate the previously unregulated combat sports, and in large the response has been positive. Wisconsin State Senate made this change in 2016 in a first wave among US states. The bill that it passed aimed to regulate all combat sports with varying degrees of regula­tions.

      Alberta is a unique juris­dic­tion, at is–as it's the only jurisdiction in the US or Canada where sports are not regulated by the state or province, but instead kick the 'regularoty' can down the line to the munici­pal level. So, city by city the rules and regula­tions differ.

      And lastly, in Ontario, 2019, the Combative Sports Act had–has regulated and allowed a far broader range of combative sports to be legalized in Ontario, both amateur and professional. They created regulating bodies were–where they didn't exist previously, and this is very comparable proposal to the one in Manitoba.

      Ekosi, Madam Speaker.

Ms. Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): I'm happy to rise and just put a few more thoughts on record here for Bill 40, The Combative Sports Amend­ment Act.

      Very happy to see the bill moving through third reading here this afternoon, and typically, regula­tion is very beneficial for all parties involved in most factors in life here, Madam Speaker. In this case in parti­cular, we know that this legis­lation will help with safety for athletes, for coaches, for facilities.

      We know it's going to create op­por­tun­ities for athletes, whether that be pro­fes­sional athletes, they're going to be coming from Manitoba even more now because of this legis­lation and regulating these sports here in the province. It–being able to compete in safe, sanctioned sports within the province, Madam Speaker.

      It's also great for our Manitoba economy; by regulating the sports, we're going to have athletes from around Canada come to Manitoba. They're going to use hotels in Manitoba, use restaurants in Manitoba. It's actually going to create more busi­ness for our province, as well as provide incentives for athletes within the province.

      Ultimately, this further regula­tion of combat sports will help us have more hometown athletes. Very happy to be supporting this legis­lation. I want to thank those who have joined us here today, who played a big role in the creation of this legis­lation, and for the minister for bringing it forward.

      Thank you.

Madam Speaker: Is there any further debate on this bill?

      If not, is the House ready for the question?

Some Honourable Members: Question.

Madam Speaker: The question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 40, The Combative Sports Amend­ment Act.

      Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? Agreed? [Agreed]

Bill 10–The Liquor, Gaming and Cannabis Control Amendment Act
(Social Responsibility Fee Repealed)

Madam Speaker: I will now call concurrence and third reading of Bill 10, The Liquor, Gaming and Cannabis Control Amend­ment Act (Social Respon­si­bility Fee Repealed).

Hon. Cliff Cullen (Minister of Finance): I move, seconded by the Minister of Sport, Culture and Herit­age (Mr. Khan), that Bill 10, The Liquor, Gaming and Cannabis Control Amend­ment Act (Social Respon­si­bility Fee Repealed), reported from the Standing Com­mit­tee on Social and Economic Dev­elop­ment, and subsequently amended, be concurred in and be now read for a third time and passed.

Motion presented.

Mr. Cullen: This bill amends The Liquor, Gaming and Cannabis Control Act in order to repeal the social respon­si­bility fee on cannabis retailers operating here in Manitoba.

      The social respon­si­bility fee ensured that canna­bis retailers con­tri­bu­ted to the social cost associated with cannabis legis­lation, including increased health cost, public edu­ca­tion and addiction services. Repeal­ing the social respon­si­bility fee will continue to reduce legal cannabis costs to consumers looking to switch from the illegal market.

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Mr. Andrew Micklefield, Deputy Speaker, in the Chair

      On May 10th, 2023, Bill 10 was heard at com­mit­tee; 17 presenters registered to speak to the bill, all of whom had direct busi­ness interest in the cannabis industry here in Manitoba. We heard over­whelming support for repealing the social respon­si­bility fee, as well as a recom­men­dation that repeals the social respon­si­bility fee to January 1st, 2022 instead of January 1st, 2023.

      Subsequently, we filed a report stage amend­ment that would do just that: repeal the social respon­si­bility fee retroactively to January 1st, 2022, and we were pleased to see that pass. We understand the capital and labour invest­ment opportunities that would open up for these busi­nesses by doing so, and we are pleased to further help these busi­nesses make ends meet.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker, these initiatives are another step towards our gov­ern­ment's goal of supporting legal cannabis operators as they compete with and displace the illicit cannabis market in Manitoba.

      Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.

Ms. Lisa Naylor (Wolseley): I'm happy to rise today and put a few words on the record, and I'm certainly glad to see this bill having been brought forward and to know that it will be passed in the Legislature today.

      Over the past few months, as the relatively new critic on this file for the liquor, gaming, cannabis control act and every­thing around Manitoba Liquor & Lotteries, I have spent quite a lot of time talking to both small- and large-busi­ness owners in the cannabis industry.

      And, you know, it's really clear to me that a lot of things were rolled out by this gov­ern­ment regarding how cannabis became, you know, started and was for sale as a legalized product in this province, but not necessarily well-thought-out in terms of, you know, the kind of respect that we want to see for busi­ness owners and their inclusion in this process.

      And I realize that cannabis busi­ness owners are really up against a lot of barriers, some of which have been created by this gov­ern­ment and some other types of barriers, perhaps created by the federal gov­ern­ment, around the imple­men­ta­tion of the cannabis industry in our province.

      And we know that the 6 per cent so-called social respon­si­bility fee on cannabis sales was what the PCs did instead of just putting a PST on cannabis. They love to say they hate taxes, but then they bring in a–they call it a fee, but it's really a tax; it was a tax that was actually hidden from the consumer, so just really, really on the backs of small-busi­ness owners. And now they've decided to remove this, which we think is a very good idea.

      And the main reason we think it's a really good idea–I mean, partly because of the harm to small busi­nesses when you're not upfront about it being a PST-type of tax–but also because, as we heard from so many small busi­nesses, you know, not only does the consumer not necessarily know, but that money we know wasn't spent on social respon­si­bility. We know from the FIPPAs that were done that that money has just kind of disappeared into the gov­ern­ment's general revenue and can't be accounted for.

      And, you know, on com­mit­tee, we heard from folks that the only social respon­si­bility thing that they ever saw come forward from this gov­ern­ment was some pamphlets that they were to put into consumers' bags when they made purchases. And, you know, I think I heard the number about $1 million was spent on those pamphlets, but we also know millions and million and millions of dollars have been collected. I believe it's $20 million that hasn't been accounted for in general revenue.

      So, listening to those cannabis owners, sitting on com­mit­tee, hearing them talk about the impact that this has made on their ability to survive, especially for small-busi­ness owners to survive and thrive, and also hearing some wonderful stories about some of the initiatives they have taken as busi­ness owners for their own social respon­si­bility.

      There was one company with a couple of stores that–couple of stores here and a couple of stores in another province–that's reinvested over $25,000 of their own sales into their com­mu­nity and into charitable con­tri­bu­tions and things to make their com­mu­nity safer and stronger.

      We heard from another small busi­ness in the west end of the city that, you know, it's quite small, family run, just one location, where they talked about the cannabis users who are–have medical con­di­tions, sometimes recovering from cancer. And, you know, building relationships with their consumers, spending time, you know, celebrating with people when they–when their cancer's in remission or in other ways building these very meaningful relationships when people are using cannabis for health reasons as I described.

      So, it's been really a pleasure for me to get to know some of these small-busi­ness owners, to have these meetings and con­ver­sa­tions. And I learned a lot from them, and I have a lot of respect for the folks that came to speak to com­mit­tee and to share what the impact, the very difficult impact of this fee or tax has been on their companies.

      So with that, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I just want to say that it's about time that this fee is being repealed. And I hope that we can move forward in this province with, you know, being sure to respect small busi­nesses and understand the impact, you know, the thousands of jobs that are created by these busi­nesses, and work with them for, kind of, fair and meaningful ways to–for busi­nesses to contribute to social respon­si­bility and to also be sure that busi­nesses are consulted when these kinds of things are developed and to make things fair for the–on–across the field for small-busi­ness owners such as this.

      So, thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for giving me a few minutes to speak about this.

      Thank you.

Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Mr. Deputy Speaker, just a few words on this bill.

      The gov­ern­ment put this social respon­si­bility fee, which is actually a social respon­si­bility tax, but the gov­ern­ment doesn't like to pronounce the word tax, so they used fee. It was put on cannabis busi­nesses with the idea of helping to alleviate problems which could arise because of the decriminalization of cannabis and the ability to sell and market cannabis legitimately.

      However, the money which was collected was never used for this purpose, so far as we're able to tell. It was just put into general revenue so that the gov­ern­ment could claim that it was balancing the budget, which they never did, or if they did, they did it so temporarily just before the COVID pandemic that it wasn't all that meaningful.

      What was clear at com­mit­tee stage was that the small busi­nesses who are operating cannabis stores around Manitoba are struggling. They've been in con­sid­erable dif­fi­cul­ty, and that due to the ineffectiveness of the gov­ern­ment in the way that it managed the social respon­si­bility fee and in the way that the gov­ern­ment failed to enforce and address the sales of cannabis on the black market.

      So, because the gov­ern­ment failed to be too concerned about the black market and illegal cannabis sales, the illegal cannabis market continues, as I understand it, to be about 50 per cent of the total market.

      And many small businesses are complaining that they set up a legitimate busi­ness selling cannabis in a very carefully controlled way, had this extra tax put on them and it is ap­pro­priate now that we are removing or the gov­ern­ment is removing this tax and that it's being done retroactive to January of 2022.

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      But at the same time, it raises the issue which remains unexplained as to why–when we have a Minister of Justice (Mr. Goertzen) who should be concerned about illegal actions in our province–why the Minister of Justice took no actions with respect to the sale of cannabis on the black market.

      And that was a dif­fi­cul­ty. It's putting people at risk when they're buying cannabis on the black market because it may be contaminated, it may not be accurately described and sold, it may be more or less potent than it's claimed and clearly the–there should have been much better action to address and to reduce the black market illegal sales of cannabis.

      At the same time, there is still some work to do. In the sale of liquor, we have precise amounts of the amount of alcohol in the liquor that is purchased. But when it comes to cannabis, it is less clear what the precise amounts of active ingredient are and that could be–and, I think, should be–stan­dard­ized, even though there are some challenges in doing that.

      So, we're certainly ready to support Bill 10. We want to make sure that cannabis, to the extent that it is being sold, is sold on the legal market, not on the illegal market. We want to make sure that cannabis busi­nesses have an op­por­tun­ity here to market their product and to have a legitimate, as they are, busi­ness which can do well in our province.

      So, with those few words, our support for this bill, but at the same, we recog­nize that the way that the gov­ern­ment has handled cannabis sales in Manitoba leave quite a bit to be desired.

      Thank you.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Are there any other speakers?

      Is the House ready for the question?

Some Honourable Members: Question.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The question before the House  is concurrence and third reading of Bill 10, The Liquor, Gaming and Cannabis Control Amend­ment Act (Social Respon­si­bility Fee Repealed).

      Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed]

Debate on Concurrence and Third Readings

Bill 22–The Emergency Measures Amendment Act

Mr. Deputy Speaker: As previously announced, we will now move to debate on concurrence and third reading for Bill 22, The Emergency Measures Amend­­ment Act, standing in the name of the hon­our­able member for Keewatinook, who has 28 minutes remaining.

Mr. Ian Bushie (Keewatinook): Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for a chance to share a few more words on Bill 22, The Emergency Measures Amend­ment Act.

      Some of the comments that were made at a couple different readings of this, and also some con­ver­sa­tions that went on with com­mu­nities that were affected by these issues, is sometimes legis­lation that's brought forward from the gov­ern­ment is almost called housekeeping–you know, changing terminologies, changing some different aspects of legis­lation and de­part­ments that are also–already within gov­ern­ment.

      But this also takes on a little bit more. There's different terminology; for example, the name of the Manitoba Emergency Measures Organi­zation is now going to be changed to the Manitoba emergency manage­ment organi­zation. So, there's housekeeping things like that.

      But there's also a matter of the fact it also makes mention of now–different de­part­ments and different aspects of gov­ern­ment now having to have a continu­ity plan when it comes time to emergency planning. And including also–then designating certain organi­zations or cor­por­ations for critical services.

      So, that did beg the question from some organi­zations–and, in parti­cular–and I will cite the com­mu­nity of Peguis that did ask, then, what exactly does that that mean. What does the critical service mean, what potential cor­por­ation is it and what does that empower them to do, or what kind of author­ity would they have?

      And again, first and foremost, Peguis thought of that as a reactionary approach, not so much a proactive approach into how this is coming to be. And this response, of course, this piece of legis­lation now is coming at the end of this legis­lative session, and while a pandemic happened for a vast majority of this term, we're now sitting here talking about things that we're going to change after the fact, not prior to. So again, a reactive approach by this gov­ern­ment and not some­thing proactive to be able to do.

      So, the response is not significantly changing the province in preparedness for all emergencies, but rather provides changes reflective of those that we've already had. So we've already had the pandemic, we've already had snowstorms, fires, floods.

      So again, now this legis­lation's coming today rather than at the begin­ning of their term, or begin­ning going all the way to 2016, to have those in place looking ahead to potential issues that we may arise, whether it be flood, fire–I mean, of course nobody could've foreseen the pandemic, but that is a reality that we faced and we were thrown into. And if perhaps we were more prepared by bringing forward legis­lation prior to those kind of events it would've left us in a better position to be able to react to that.

      But again, this is just now this gov­ern­ment attempting to kind of get a political win from their term of office, although many of those issues were mismanaged. Many of the issues with the flood were mismanaged, with the fire situation, with the pandemic, were mismanaged time and time again by this gov­ern­ment.

      So now they're bringing forth a piece of so-called housekeeping legis­lation to kind of clarify and, well, let's do this; we're going to now defer things to different de­part­ments, we're going to put a plan in place. Of course, this is the gov­ern­ment that says we're going to plan, we're going to announce, but actually when it comes time to boots on the ground, at the bedside, at the classroom, it–that really doesn't come into effect.

      But with Bill 22, some of the questions in the Q & A part of discussions were very simple, I thought; very straight­for­ward questions that were brought forward. For example, does this legis­lation come with any con­sul­ta­tion of com­mu­nities that were affected by issues that may arise, whether it be fire situation–and I can cite my con­stit­uency spe­cific­ally, during fire season, during a devastating fire season, where my com­mu­nities were completely cut off–where my com­mu­nities were completely cut off not just from access, but even just being able to com­muni­cate.

      So again, they asked at that time, you know, where's the plan? And every­thing just kind of scram­bled around, and everybody–it was a free-for-all. And at the same time this gov­ern­ment, because they neglect the North time and time again, it was a thought process of out of sight, out of mind; that's not an issue to deal with. But meanwhile, for weeks and weeks–and going on months, even–those com­mu­nities were not only displaced, but they were cut off from support from this gov­ern­ment.

      So, plans like this, where were these at that point in time? And now we're having discussions now saying we're going to–now we're going to fix that; we're going to fix that process. Well, the fact of the matter is, we haven't seen that. We haven't seen proof that they're–they have that ability to do that.

      And so, I cited just one example from my con­stit­uency, where they were cut off from fire season–completely cut off. And including–and I remember spe­cific­ally, Mr. Deputy Speaker, having those discussions and we were texting back and forth the leadership in the com­mu­nities, and all of a sudden, nothing. Because that's when the fire went across the hydro line, took out any kind of power source they had.

      So, they had no way to com­muni­cate and nobody knew what was going on. Nobody. The com­mu­nity was isolated. They didn't know what was going on. They had some people that were evacuated, who were com­muni­cating with loved ones back home, and again, there was–just completely cut off.

      So, when this legis­lation now talks about a continuity of service, what exactly does that then mean in that situation? So those are clari­fi­ca­tions that we looked for time and time again, and we're not seeing that in this situation. And we go back, now, not even as far back as that; now we go into where the floods now affected com­mu­nities all over Manitoba, not just in southern Manitoba, in the Interlake as well. And again, we had com­mu­nities completely cut off.

      So, the continuity of service is some­thing that is first and foremost their priority, because that just simply did not exist for those com­mu­nities. And there we are, playing catch-up to the emergency of the day. And in that situation it was a flood. So, again–and we all know that when those situations 'arie,' whether it be a snowstorm, a flood, fire–things change on a moment's notice. So these plans need to be in place.

      And Bill 22, with The Emergency Measures Amend­ment Act, attempts to try and do that. But again, it's more a housekeeping measure.

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      So, the question of a continuity plan in those situations–what exactly does that entail for all aspects and what de­part­ment is going to be respon­si­ble for that? Is it going to be Trans­por­tation and Infra­structure? Or is that now going to be deferred to a different de­part­ment to come up with their own? Or is Trans­por­tation and Infra­structure going to oversee that plan to ensure that that is, in fact, happening?

      Because those issues go over and they overlap into all–basically all de­part­ments, whether it be Health, whether it be Edu­ca­tion, whether it be Con­ser­va­tion. An issue–an emergency issue like that, even if it is fire, floods, snowstorms, pandemic, it oversees all de­part­ments.

      And I know all the ministers and all of Cabinet realize that every time we have an emergency here in Manitoba, it affects them. Whether it be a bigger effect or a lesser effect on your de­part­ment, it does have an impact on your de­part­ment. So that continuity plan needs to be completely clear and concise so everybody knows, so it's not a matter of, oh, that's this de­part­ment; that goes over to this de­part­ment; oh, that's, in this case, potentially a cor­por­ation–so who is going to oversee that?

      So, those are some of the questions that arose during the question-and-answer period. And there wasn't a really clear answer as to how that overlap and how that little grey area of who does what and who oversees to make sure and ensure that all of these pieces that are addressed in this legis­lation is actually going to be followed through so that every de­part­ment, in fact, does have that plan in place.

      Because, again, Mr. Deputy Speaker, when an emergency arises, sometimes it's just, boom, we're in the middle of it. And people don't know where to go; they don't know how to react. So the plan needs to be thought out so they, in fact, know, I can see either–whether it be a person or whether it be a de­part­ment or whether it be a com­mu­nity or whether it be a cor­por­ation, that's the head–where we need to go so we get a clear, concise answer of where we're going to, what steps need to happen, so we do have a continuity.

      Because I know when those situations happen, there's a plan for continuity of gov­ern­ment. So when we do those kind of issues and we have an emergency situation, there is a continuity of gov­ern­ment. So that same plan needs to now get out to those com­mu­nities. Because sometimes, it may be one com­mu­nity; sometimes, it may even be–just be a family. But for the most part, it is large geographical sections of Manitoba that are affected by issues such as this. So those need to be thought out, need to be explained, need to be clear and concise so there is no confusion.

      Because when we get in those situations, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and we have an emergency situ­ation, whether it be flood, fire, snowstorms, pandemic, there is a lot of panic. There's a lot of uncertainty from the general popu­la­tion as to where things are at. And they should look to this gov­ern­ment for leadership. They should look for their leadership in their com­mu­nities, in their munici­palities and their First Nations for that leadership. But if they aren't aware of the plan that is in place for all of them, then it just adds to that confusion.

      So, in this legis­lation, that is what this is intended to do. This is intended to clear up that confusion. And, again, citing the word continuity that is in here. That's what's im­por­tant, too, so we have that continuous dialogue, that continuous kind of method and steps that we'll take so there is no confusion. Because in those times, there's families, and Manitobans are potentially panicked and not knowing what to do.

      So, when we talk about emergency measures, every Manitoban should know exactly what the situ­ation is happening and what could potentially happen and what does a various situation mean for their com­mu­nity, whether it's a number to call or if–let's say they don't have that ability to call, where do they go? Or if they don't have that ability to go anywhere, who do they contact, or who comes to contact them?

      So, again, Mr. Deputy Speaker, those kind of plans need to be worked out today as well. Not just a broad legis­lation that's going to look at cleaning up some housekeeping, changing some terminology, but some­thing that actually has a plan going forward and saying, this is what we're going to go; this is where every Manitoban can go to look for their answers in whatever situation it may be.

      And I know–under­standing–fully under­standing that there's situations that we may not be able to foresee. Nobody could have foreseen the pandemic, but it was a situation that we were just thrown into. But if we had a plan in place for some­thing similar to that or some­thing to that effect and then we just build on that and adapt to when the situation is happening, it's a starting point and it's a base for us to be able to plan that emergency situation and our response to those situations.

      Because we don't know what's coming. We don't know if the–you know, we've heard the term now, it's a one-in-100-years flood, it's a one-in-100-years snowstorm, one-in-100-years fire season. This pan­demic is a once-in-a-century kind of pandemic. But the reality is, those are potentially things that are hap­pening every year now. You know, we could have floods every year. We could have fire situations every year. And it's becoming the norm.

      So now, how do we react to the norm? And this legis­lation needs to be able to do that.

      So, Mr. Deputy Speaker, like many, many pieces of legis­lation brought forth by this gov­ern­ment, it's a starting point, but it is some­thing that needs to be built on, needs to be clear and concise for all Manitobans so there is no confusion.

      Because Manitobans should have that faith in their gov­ern­ment where they can come and get a clear answer, not a confused–not deferred to here, not deferred to there, just because a certain de­part­ment or a certain minister or a certain cor­por­ation does not want to deal with the issue, there is a disclaimer for them to be able to offload that respon­si­bility to somebody else.

      There should be a clear and concise method, a–clear and concise steps that we take in the case of an emergency situation, whether it be, again–I can't say this enough–flood, fires, snowstorms, pandemic, those kinds of situations. There needs to be a clear answer and clear steps where all Manitobans can go, and they're getting nothing like that from this gov­ern­ment. There needs to be clear and concise answers.

      So, again, legis­lation is a step in the right direction here, but there needs to be some clarity as well, and I'm hoping in due course that clarity comes with whatever needs to happen over the various de­part­ments, whether it be in the Trans­por­tation and Infra­structure De­part­ment or other de­part­ment where these kinds of methods overlap.

      Thank you.

Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Mr. Deputy Speaker, I want to start by making a comment on what the MLA for Keewatinook said. He said no one could have foreseen the pandemic.

      Well, he's wrong; there's a lot of people who did foresee it. But it is true that the NDP, when they were in gov­ern­ment, did not foresee it, and they didn't plan for it. And it is true that the PCs, when they were in gov­ern­ment, did not foresee it and did not plan for it.

      So, it is im­por­tant that we have legis­lation like this, and it be as good as it can be, to make sure that we are prepared for any emergencies.

      One of the most recent events was the fire which threatened Pimicikamak, Cross Lake, and some 7,000 people, I understand, had to be evacuated. The–there was not as clear a plan as there should have been to protect Cross Lake so that there didn't have to be an evacuation.

      And, from the perspective that we have, that their gov­ern­ment has not provided an explanation for why that was so, and we don't have a report–a full report–yet on that fire, as to why and how it got to the extent that it had required a full and expensive and disruptive evacuation to people from Cross Lake.

      I remember it wasn't long ago when there was a flood at Peguis First Nation. And it was quite apparent at that point, and Peguis First Nation got one day of warning that the flood was coming. It was completely inadequate, because there wasn't a plan and pre­par­ation to make sure that people in Peguis First Nation knew well in advance that there was a threat of a flood.

      So, we are hoping that this legis­lation will enable better work to be done in the future than has been done in the past. We will support this legis­lation.

      We believe that there is much more that needs to be done and is here and that we need to make sure that everybody through­out the province is protected with emergencies.

      So, with those few remarks, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I will sit down and look forward to this legis­lation passing and becoming law in due course.

      Thank you.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Is the House ready for the question?

Some Honourable Members: Question.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 22, The Emergency Measures Amend­ment Act.

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      Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed]

      I declare the motion carried.

Concurrence and Third Readings

(Continued)

Bill 23–The Vulnerable Persons Living with a Mental Disability Amendment Act

Mr. Deputy Speaker: We now move to concurrence and third reading of Bill 23, The Vul­ner­able Persons Living with a Mental Dis­abil­ity Amend­ment Act.

Hon. Rochelle Squires (Minister respon­si­ble for Accessibility): I move, seconded by the Minister of   Edu­ca­tion and Early Child­hood Learning (Mr. Ewasko), that Bill 23, The Vul­ner­able Persons Living with a Mental Dis­abil­ity Amend­ment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les personnes vulnérables ayant une déficience mentale, reported from the Standing Com­mit­tee on Legis­lative Affairs, be concurred in and now read for a third time and passed.

Motion presented.

Ms. Squires: I'm very pleased to see this bill move forward because we know that it will improve the lives of adults living with intellectual dis­abil­ities in our province and the individuals that support them. And I want to thank everyone who came out to speak at this–about this bill in com­mit­tee a few weeks back.

      When this bill was first–or, when this act was first intro­duced in 1996, it brought in a regime that was considered progressive for its time and is still, in some respects, unique across Canada. Despite the act's focus on best practices, however, it has not been updated in 26 years. Elements of the act are out of date, and we recog­nize that the legis­lation must evolve as the under­standing of dis­abil­ity changes.

      Bill 23 modernizes our approach to both abuse and neglect, updates the language we use to talk about dis­abil­ity and improves access to infor­ma­tion for adults and their family members through the abuse in­vesti­gation process.

      We recog­nize that this is only a first step towards the longer journey, and we expect to make more changes as we hear and learn more. Our–I look for­ward to seeing Bill 23 become law and to its passage in the House today.

      Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.

MLA Nahanni Fontaine (St. Johns): I'm pleased to put a couple of words on the record in respect of Bill 23, The Vul­ner­able Persons Living with mental–a Mental Dis­abil­ity Amend­ment Act.

      I–again, the bill amends The Vul­ner­able Persons Living with a Mental Dis­abil­ity Act and replaces wording. And the following wording changes are made: so, vul­ner­able person is replaced with adult living with an intellectual dis­abil­ity; mental dis­abil­ity is replaced with intellectual dis­abil­ity; and then, supported decision making is replaced with assisted decision making.

      And again, as I've said many times in the House, language matters, and the way that we use language informs the way that we interact and ex­per­ience and see the world around us. And so, certainly, as I said at second reading and at standing com­mit­tee, we do support Bill 23 in respect of ensuring that the language that we use in Manitoba is respectful, it is reflective of the ex­per­ience and the expertise and the desires of the com­mu­nity in which it is impacted on.

      And, again, as I said yesterday in respect of Bill 218, when we know better, we do better. And certainly, I would argue that this is probably one of those bills that is seeking to do better in the language that we utilize here in Manitoba.

      I do want to just reflect on com­mit­tee, which was a couple of weeks ago, I guess. And the minister will know, we actually had some pretty phenomenal pre­sen­ta­tions by folks.

      And one in parti­cular that I would like to acknow­l­edge, I believe, is Tomas Ponzilus [phonetic]–Ponzilius. I hope that I am pronouncing that–his last name–properly, and if not, I apologize for that. He was very thoughtful in his pre­sen­ta­tion to the com­mit­tee and I listened very intently, and I know that the minister did, too.

      He did a really good job of sharing with the com­mit­tee and–for history, because, of course, that will be a part of Hansard–his ex­per­ience as a Manitoban living with an intellectual dis­abil­ity. And I really respected what he shared with us, and the way that he shared with us as well.

      He had some notes and read from some notes, but he also took op­por­tun­ities to just share in the way that he's able to share, and the way in which he feels comfortable sharing with the com­mit­tee at the time. And I just wanted to take an op­por­tun­ity to acknowl­edge him and to–and I know that both the minister and I did thank him for his pre­sen­ta­tion–but, I just wanted to say Miigwech to him one more time.

      It takes–you know, for us this is some­thing that we do every single day. But, you know, for Manitobans it does take a sense of courage to make that step to register for com­mit­tee and then to make your way down to the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba, and then to make your way into that room, into a com­mit­tee room, and then certainly to stand before, what–we are strangers.

      We are basically strangers to Manitobans, for the most part, to Manitobans who come and make a 10‑minute pre­sen­ta­tion. And I've always really ap­pre­ciated Manitobans who exercise their demo­cratic right to come and present at com­mit­tee. And, as everybody knows, we are one of the few juris­dic­tions across the country that participate in that.

      And so, I wanted to acknowl­edge him because how much more so, for a Manitoban who has acknowl­edged that he's got an intellectual dis­abil­ity, to go through all of those steps and to make his way on that parti­cular evening and to present to us.

      And he did struggle a little bit, and he did admit to the com­mit­tee that he struggled, but he did so well and I just wanted to acknowl­edge him. I know that after his pre­sen­ta­tion, or a couple other pre­sen­ta­tions, I went to himself and to another Manitoban who presented right after him–for the life of me, I'm pretty–I can't remember what her name was, and I apologize for that.

      But I wanted to just go and thank them both for their pre­sen­ta­tions. And he said to me at that time, he said, I hope it was okay, I was nervous. I said, absolutely; I said, you did so wonderful. It was really im­por­tant for us to hear the message that you were sharing, and the teachings that he was sharing to us. And he said, well, and he said, you know, I know that sometimes I kind of went off, he says, but that's the way that I learn, and that's the way that I can express myself.

      And I think that that was beautiful. I think that if there's anything that we can do in this House, is create space, and safe space, for every single Manitoban to come and–as is their demo­cratic right–come and spend some time and present, and for us to listen.

      It is really, truly, the bare minimum that we can do as legis­lators, is to listen to Manitobans as they share with us their experiences and their expertise, and so that hopefully we are creating legis­lation and informing legis­lation that is better for all of us.

      So, I just wanted to take a couple of minutes, and then to all of the presenters that we had that evening, all of whom are dedi­cated and committed to ensuring that we have a safe and equitable province, I want to thank them for their words that they put on the record, as well.

      It's im­por­tant words, and I think that everybody–I would hope that everybody in the Chamber knows the very im­por­tant role that we play in creating and legislating changes here that make it best for everyone.

      So, with those few, few words, we on this side of the House will continue to support Bill 23, and we look forward to its royal assent and proclamation.

      Miigwech.

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Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): I want to start by thanking the MLA for St. Johns for her comments about Tomas Ponzilius. He has made an in­cred­ible effort. He has overcome in­cred­ible obstacles. And he did remark­ably well when he presented and was clear and able to answer questions well.

      And it shows how well an individual with a learning dis­abil­ity, as he has, can do with a little bit of help. And it emphasizes why it is so im­por­tant that individuals like Tomas Ponzilius have that help so that they can do well.

      And we hope he continues to do well. He is off this fall to do a degree in social work because he has decided that that's where he wants to go. And he's also decided that it's really im­por­tant to have people like himself in social work because too often, many in the social work field are not as sensitive as they could be to individuals with learning dis­abil­ities, to under­standing the struggles that they're going through and to being able to provide some help and some ac­com­moda­tion.

      I think his stories of the fact that when he asked for ac­com­moda­tions, sometimes he was able to get them and sometimes he was not, and he was turned down. And it's im­por­tant to note that it's actually in the Human Rights Code, in Canadian human rights, that people with dis­abil­ities–and Supreme Court ruling–should get ac­com­moda­tion as they need it for their dis­abil­ity. And this is some­thing which is too often not adequately recog­nized, parti­cularly for individuals with learning dis­abil­ities.

      I'm going to comment briefly on the pre­sen­ta­tions of Jessica Croy, Dale Kendel, Debra Roach, Amy Shawcross and Suzanne Swanton.

      Dale Kendel was clearly very involved in putting together a report which was, I think, excellent from what I know, except in one respect: that it didn't adequately consider people with learning dis­abil­ities.

      I admired the pre­sen­ta­tion of Jessica Croy, who em­pha­sized that it is the person first and the dis­abil­ity second, that we–substitute decision makers should be the last resort and sometimes they are used too quickly and take away the rights of people with dis­abil­ities.

      I listened carefully to the words of Debra Roach and Amy Shawcross, who laid it out very clearly: that the justice system is too often two-tiered, that people with dis­abil­ities face a different system of justice; others can go straight, when there is abuse, to the police and somebody with a dis­abil­ity has to go to the de­part­ment. And that may take quite some time and there may even be a barrier there to getting it to an adequate in­vesti­gation by the police.

      So I think that the points were well taken and we need to be making sure that we are treating people fairly, parti­cularly those with dis­abil­ities.

      I'm also going to say a few words about the pre­sen­ta­tions which dealt spe­cific­ally for the need to include individuals with learning dis­abil­ities.

      Tomas Ponzilius, Sharon McIlraith and Twila Richards all talked about this area and they all described situations where it's very apparent that there needs to be a much better under­standing of and ac­com­moda­tion for people with learning dis­abil­ities in Manitoba.

      Tomas Ponzilius spoke spe­cific­ally and said that he often felt that people with learning dis­abil­ities were abandoned by society; that often, dis­abil­ity services in Manitoba do not consider learning dis­abilities. And it's to remember that most individuals with learning dis­abil­ities, dyslexia, dyscalculia, dys­graphia, et cetera, et cetera, have normal to above-normal IQs. And so, they don't fall in the category that's included with support for CLDS after age 18, even though there are many who really des­per­ately need it.

      And Sharon McIlraith spoke spe­cific­ally about her son who's over 18, who has an impairment in adaptive function, and yet, he has been selectively included from this–excluded from this legis­lation and he's not covered, and that is sad.

      It is, and was im­por­tant to note, as Sharon McIlraith pointed out, that in Newfoundland, they no longer use the criteria solely based on IQ but they rather have criteria based on the needs of the indi­vidual and so that they are able to include individuals who have a normal IQ and an impairment of adaptive functioning.

      And it was sig­ni­fi­cant, I thought, that Sharon McIlraith brought out the fact that her son is very bright in certain respects but very restricted in others. And so, on an IQ scale, he was some­thing like in the 98th percentile for verbal com­muni­cations, I think, and–but when it came to adaptive functioning, he was down in the 6th percentile, and that was the area where he has trouble.

      And people presume, because he can com­muni­cate so well, that he is able to look after himself, but sadly, that is not the case. And being over 18 and without able to get the supports that he really needs, he continues to struggle.

      Twila Richards, who has dyslexia and is a teacher, again demonstrates the amazing ability of people with dyslexia if they are given a chance. There are a large number of people with dyslexia who have done very well.

      And, indeed, as Malcolm Gladwell has pointed out in his book David and Goliath, that he mentioned the occasion when he was in a room full of leaders, of entrepreneurs in the United States, and in this room full of people who were leading entrepreneurs, he asked how many had dyslexia, and it was 30 per cent. And those are 30 per cent who were given the op­por­tun­ity and 30 per cent who have done extra­ordin­arily well.

      And it just shows that if we don't support people with dyslexia, if we don't help them, we lose out on developing and helping people who can be amazing entrepreneurs and contribute in many different ways to our society.

      So, Twila Richards made some pretty im­por­tant points, including the fact that, sadly, learning dis­abil­ities were largely excluded from con­sid­era­tion under this bill. And so, clearly, we need to go back at the earliest possible op­por­tun­ity and to change this legis­lation so that it includes people with learning dis­abil­ities.

      And it is a big disappointment to me, personally, who's worked with many people with learning dis­abil­ities to find that there was this selective exclusion.

      So, with those remarks, we are prepared to support the legis­lation, even though I'm disappointed in parts of it, because it is a step forward. It is progress. It's not as far as we should. We missed a big op­por­tun­ity, but we will accept some movement forward.

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      Thank you.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Is the House ready for the question?

Some Honourable Members: Question.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: The question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 23, The Vul­ner­able Persons Living with a Mental Dis­abil­ity Amend­ment Act.

      Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed]

      I declare the motion carried.

Bill 32–An Act respecting Child and Family Services
(Indigenous
Juris­dic­tion and Related Amendments)

Mr. Deputy Speaker: We will now move to Bill 32, An Act respecting Child and Family Services (Indigenous Juris­dic­tion and Related Amend­ments).

Hon. Rochelle Squires (Minister of Families): I move, seconded by the Minister of Advanced Edu­ca­tion and Training (Mrs. Guillemard), that Bill 32, An Act respecting Child and Family Services (Indigenous Juris­dic­tion and Related Amend­ments); Loi concer­nant les services à l'enfant et à la famille (champ de compétence autochtone et modifications connexes), reporting from the Standing Com­mit­tee on Legis­lative Affairs, be concurred in and be now read for a third time and passed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker: It has been moved by the hon­our­able Minister of Families, seconded by the hon­our­able Minister of Advanced Edu­ca­tion and Training, that Bill 32, An Act respecting Child and Family Services (Indigenous Juris­dic­tion and Related Amend­ments), reported from the Standing Com­mit­tee on Legis­lative Affairs, be concurred in and be now read for a third time and passed. 

Ms. Squires: I certainly do want to start off my remarks by expressing my gratitude to everyone who came to com­mit­tee to present on this bill as well as to the Indigenous leaders that were consulted and con­tri­bu­ted greatly on the–this bill's content.

      So, I'm very pleased to speak on the third reading today of Bill 32, An Act respecting Child and Family Services (Indigenous Jurisdiction and Related Amend­ments). Prov­incial CFS law must adapt to better support at-risk children, youth and their families. We also need to recog­nize Indigenous gov­ern­ments as they draw down juris­dic­tion over the delivery of Child and Family Services.

      Changes to the CFS act under Bill 32 will align Manitoba laws and practices with the federal CFS act. These amend­ments recog­nize the inherent juris­dic­tion of Indigenous gov­ern­ments. They also propel changes within the prov­incial CFS system to provide more tools to preserve, sustain and restore families.

      Through this bill, changes to temporary orders will also allow judges to extend these orders instead of issuing permanent orders. What this means, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is that there will be a reduction in the need to sever parental ties due to arbitrary timelines and reduce the number of permanent wards.

       Our bill affirms that the views of the child, their family and the child's Indigenous nation must be considered without discrimination. Furthermore, these principles recog­nize that Indigenous language, culture, practices, customs, traditions and ceremonies are critical to prevent Indigenous children from losing their connections.

      These amend­ments respond to long-standing advice and recom­men­dations from Indigenous leader­ship and service delivery partners. We recog­nize that this is only another step in a long journey, and we continue to engage with Indigenous partners, and we expect to make more changes as we hear and learn more about what is needed to support the realization of Indigenous juris­dic­tion.

      I look forward to seeing Bill 32 become law and con­gratu­late all First Nations and Métis partners who helped us bring this legis­lation to the House today.

      Thank you.

MLA Nahanni Fontaine (St. Johns): Well, I am pleased to put a couple of words on the record in respect of Bill 32, An Act respecting Child and Family Services (Indigenous Juris­dic­tion and Related Amend­ments).

      This is the last op­por­tun­ity that I have to get up in the House to put some words on the record in respect of legis­lation in this 42nd Legislature of the Manitoba Legis­lative Assembly.

      It is fitting, I suppose, that it is in respect of Indigenous children and Indigenous children in care. I don't think that there is a single greater issue that is affecting Indigenous peoples in Manitoba than the continued con­di­tions that our children getting apprehended are predicated upon.

      And you know, often if you talk to folks in the Indigenous com­mu­nity, we know that there's no other issue that we can talk about–unsheltered, our unsheltered relatives, MMIWG2S, the over-repre­sen­tation of Indigenous peoples within the correctional facilities, poverty, addictions–you cannot talk about any of those issues without connecting it back to CFS, in many respects.

      You know, the MMIWG2S national inquiry, in the report, it very clearly laid out that many of the MMIWG2S women, girls and two-spirited that have gone missing or murdered had interactions with CFS. I think here in Manitoba, you know, one of the most well-known cases of an MMIWG2S falling through the gaps, I suppose you could say, is Tina Fontaine and her interactions with CFS, and the con­di­tions that Indigenous peoples and Indigenous families, Indigen­ous mothers face when trying to navigate the CFS system. And, again, like, Tina Fontaine is just one of many.

      Fonassa Bruyere, who–I hope members in the House read on the weekend, there was a really well done, thoughtful piece done by Shelley Cook, I believe, from the Winnipeg Free Press, that inter­viewed the family of Fonassa Bruyere. And Fonassa Bruyere–both Tina and Fonassa are from my reserve of Sagkeeng Anishinaabe First Nation, which I have said many times in this House actually has the unfor­tunate distinction of having the highest numbers of MMIWG2S not only in Manitoba, but across Canada. And it's heartbreaking to know that. But both Fonassa and Tina were from my com­mu­nity.

      And the–and we've known this for very long, since Fonassa was found in September of 2007 or 2008. She fell through the cracks of the CFS system and is a reflection of all of the system's failures. And she was only 17 years old–she's just a baby. And actually in the article that Shelley wrote this weekend, the family had, you know, talked about how sweet she was and how good she was and how happy she was, and how she always called–she was raised by a collective of relatives, and how she always called Janet mom. And that's Janet Bruyere, who loved Fonassa so much.

      But when Fonassa was found, I've said this before, very soon thereafter, com­mu­nity organi­zations got together and created what is called the Sexually Exploited Youth Com­mu­nity Coalition. I was a part of that, as the director of justice for Southern Chiefs Organi­zation. And I've shared before, like SCO was involved, AMC, MKO, the police, we had gov­ern­ment at the time that sat on that. And one–‍and then we had gone through this exercise–no, she would've been found in September of–early September of 2007, because then it started this whole path to looking at Tracia's Trust.

      Which most people would know, Tracia's Trust is a–you know, a gov­ern­ment policy, a gov­ern­ment–

Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order, please.

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      The time being 4 p.m., I'm now interrupting debate to put the question on the remaining concur­rence and third reading motions on the specified bills without further debate or amend­ment, except for the debate provisions allowed under 2(14).

      For each such bill, the minister, critics of recog­nized parties and in­de­pen­dent members may speak for a maximum of 10 minutes per bill. The House will not adjourn until all applicable questions have been put and royal assent has been granted.

      In accordance with our rules, all matters of privilege and points of order are deferred until after these actions have been concluded. The bills will be called in the following order: Bill 32 and 35.

      Okay, so we will now resume Bill 32, with the hon­our­able member for St. Johns (MLA Fontaine) having four minutes remaining.

MLA Fontaine: I forgot that we were operating on a deadline, so I apologize for that.

      I will wrap up my comments to say this, is that one of the things that the death of Fonassa Bruyere did was bringing everybody together to try to work together as a com­mu­nity collective, in part­ner­ship with gov­ern­ment as well.

      And we embarked on this journey; we had called it, like, a path session. I think we were–it was like over the weekend, we were all–all of the stake­holders involved, partici­pating in this path journey.

      And one of the things that was abundantly clear was the gaps in service for the CFS, or the child-welfare system. And when we looked at it, when we dissected it, Fonassa fell through every single gap that was intrinsic within that system.

      And so–and then, you know, a–you know, several years later, then we know that the death and the murder of Tina Fontaine, one of the things that was said there was the gaps in service, and how she was failed by the system and fell through the system.

      So, I don't think–I–again, there is no greater issue that faces Indigenous peoples living here in Manitoba and across the country. And so, ways in which we can strengthen legis­lation that ensures that we are keeping Indigenous children with their parents, Indigenous children with their com­mu­nities, Indigenous children with their collective relatives; anything that we can do that supports that, that supports the pro­tec­tion of Indigenous children and supports families, is some­thing that I think that, no matter what side of the House that we sit on, we should all be actively working towards.

      I don't think–I would hope–that none of us want to be here in 10 years from now or 20 years from now still talking about the same issues that affect Indigen­ous families, and I don't–I would hope that none of us want to be here where we are still taking Indigenous children away from their families and from their com­mu­nities. We've got to do better. We have got to do better.

Madam Speaker in the Chair

      I know that for myself, one of the reasons why I chose to run was to be able to effect change, was to ensure that there was transformative change in our families, in our com­mu­nities, for our women, for our children, for our little girls.

      And so, I hope–as this is the last op­por­tun­ity that I have to speak on legis­lation–I hope that we continue to centre Indigenous children, that we continue to–or start, in many respects–start to centre Indigenous children, start to centre Indigenous families, so that every Indigenous child that is here now, who is yet to be born, who is still coming, has the best op­por­tun­ity that every other Manitoban has to live a good life, a  safe life, a loving life, a com­pas­sion­ate life, entrenched in culture and tradition and surrounded by love and honoured for the sacred beings that they are.

      Miigwech.

Introduction of Guests

Madam Speaker: Before proceeding, I would just like to take a moment. We have a guest in the loge to my right–[interjection]–that I'm trying to intro­duce. I would like to intro­duce Blair Yakimoski, who is the former MLA for Transcona, and we welcome him back to the Manitoba Legislature.

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Madam Speaker: And back on debate for Bill 32.

Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Madam Speaker, a few comments on Bill 32 at third reading.

      We had a series of really excellent pre­sen­ta­tions on this bill by Doreen Moellenbeck-Dushinsky [phonetic], Bert Crocker, Trudy Lavallee, Sherry Gott and Joshua Nepinak. I thought that their con­tri­bu­tions were exceptional, and they had a whole variety of recom­men­dations for changes and im­prove­ments to this legis­lation. [interjection]

Madam Speaker: Order, please.

Mr. Gerrard: Sadly, all too little of these recom­men­dations were actually followed, and so that the im­prove­ments that could have been made to this legis­lation as a result of their comments were not, and I am sure we're going to have to come back and change this legis­lation in the future as a result of not listening to the comments now.

      I was impressed by Doreen Moellenbeck-Dushinsky [phonetic], who is a repre­sen­tative of the Dakota Ojibway Child and Family Services, the first Indigenous agency in Canada to receive a child-welfare mandate in July of–July 1st of 1981.

      And from the ex­per­ience that the Dakota Ojibway Child and Family Services has had, she recom­mended incorporating a model like honouring our family voices, which is a form of family group conferencing, a process that the Dakota Ojibway Child and Family Services agency developed. She felt that that would be beneficial, in part because the children in CFS and the families learn about resilience, culture and history from the paternal and–paternal figures, mothers, aunts, grandmothers and others.

      I listened carefully to the comments of Bert Crocker. He made a whole series of recom­men­dations based on his many, many years working in child and family services. There were some very excellent sug­ges­tions, but, sadly, too little was actually listened to.

      Trudy Lavallee presented. She is working with an Indigenous agency currently. It's noteworthy that it was Trudy Lavallee who wrote about Jordan River Anderson back in about 2005 and was the first to suggest that we have Jordan's Principle, that children in First Nations com­mu­nities should be treated fairly and equitably with those outside the com­mu­nities and that children in First Nations com­mu­nities should be helped.

      Thanks to many years of advocacy and pushing, the federal gov­ern­ment, following the election of a Liberal gov­ern­ment in 2015 in Canada, has provided very sub­stan­tial support for the imple­men­ta­tion of Jordan's Principle, and it's making a big difference in many com­mu­nities.

      Trudy Lavallee provided a practical vision and concerns about the impact of this legis­lation on funding, and I think that her words need to be looked at very carefully because it is im­por­tant that these changes don't lead to decreases in funding at a time when it is critical that funding in this area be well supported.

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      Trudy Lavallee also pointed out that there is a growing segment of Indigenous children that do not fall under the criteria of First Nations status recog­nized by the federal gov­ern­ment's Indian status rules. And thus, she's very concerned about these children falling through the gaps.

      And she has told me that in her agency and the work that she's doing at the moment, up to half of the children would fall in this gap. So, it's a rather large gap, and we need to make sure that these children are not forgotten and not omitted in the–as things develop.

      Sherry Gott, who is the Manitoba Advocate for Children and Youth, presented and, again, presented some very well-conceived ideas. She's very concerned that, for example, that as structured, there may be some barriers and impediments to the involvement of the Manitoba child and youth advocate where agencies would like such involvement.

      I intro­duced an amend­ment to–at–on her recom­men­dation to facilitate this. Sadly, the gov­ern­ment turned that amend­ment down. And we shall see how things develop, but I am quite concerned that the result may be some ad­di­tional bureaucratic dif­fi­cul­ties which really were not necessary.

      The comments of Joshua Nepinak, I suggest, are quite im­por­tant. He suggests, as others have done, that the age be extended from 18 to 25, because for many of these children who have been in Child and Family Services, that they continue to need supports after they are age 18. All too often, they have not had the chance to mature sufficiently at age 18 to be fully in­de­pen­dent. And his recom­men­dation, again, was not considered by the gov­ern­ment. And this, I suggest, may be a continuing problem in the years ahead.

      So, Madam Speaker, Manitoba Liberals will support this legis­lation, but we see that if the com­mit­tee members present–if the com­mit­tee presenters had been adequately listened to, we could have had sig­ni­fi­cant im­prove­ments in this legis­lation which, unfor­tunately, we don't have.

      So, thank you, merci, miigwech.

Madam Speaker: Is the House ready for the question?

Some Honourable Members: Question.

Madam Speaker: The question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 32, An Act respecting Child and Family Services (Indigenous Jurisdiction and Related Amend­ments).

      Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion, agreed? [Agreed]

      I declare the motion carried.

Bill 35–The Education Administration Amendment Act
(Teacher Certification and Professional Conduct)

Madam Speaker: I will now call concurrence and third reading of Bill 35, The Edu­ca­tion Admin­is­tra­tion Amend­ment Act (Teacher Certification and Pro­fes­sional Conduct).

Hon. Wayne Ewasko (Minister of Education and Early Childhood Learning): I move, seconded by the Minister of Families (Ms. Squires), that Bill 35, The Edu­ca­tion Admin­is­tra­tion Amend­ment Act (Teacher Certification and Pro­fes­sional Conduct); Loi modifiant la loi sur l'administration scolaire (brevets d'enseignement et conduite professionnelle), as amended and reported from the Standing Com­mit­tee on Social and Economic Dev­elop­ment, be concurred in and be now read for a third time and passed.

Motion presented.

Mr. Ewasko: Oh my goodness, crickets.

      Madam Speaker, Bill 35, The Edu­ca­tion Admin­is­tra­tion Amend­ment Act (Teacher Certification and Pro­fes­sional Conduct) is a historic step towards improving safety for Manitoba students, which our gov­ern­ment takes very seriously.

      As noted at the second reading, this bill was developed through extensive con­sul­ta­tion with our edu­ca­tion partners and proposes new structures and processes to improve account­ability and trans­par­ency regarding the regula­tion of teachers, while aligning Manitoba's legis­lation with that of other Canadian juris­dic­tions.

      From April 24th to April 26th, Bill 35 was presented at the Standing Com­mit­tee on Social and Economic Dev­elop­ment. It is now past that stage. During these three days, I heard Manitobans' thought­ful oral pre­sen­ta­tions and reviewed written submis­sions on Bill 35.

      Citizen feedback is parti­cularly im­por­tant when a new framework such as the one outlined in Bill 35 is being intro­duced. Based on the feedback received, I proposed the following amend­ments to the bill that would enshrine in law:

      (1) This, at the express right to repre­sen­tation during hearing panels. This confirms that teachers and the com­mis­sioner will have the right to be present and be represented at a panel hearing.

      (2) The commit­ment to consult with the sector, including teachers, their repre­sen­tatives, employers of teachers and anyone else the minister deems necessary prior to esta­blish­ing pro­fes­sional standards for the teaching profession.

      And the third amend­ment, that personal health infor­ma­tion not be made public when a teacher's found to be incapable of carrying out the respon­si­bilities of the profession due to a mental or physical dis­abil­ity unless the com­mis­sioner is satisfied that the public interest significantly outweighs the teacher's privacy interests.

      My ap­pre­cia­tion goes to all citizens who provided their input during the com­mit­tee stage and to our edu­ca­tion partners for their continued en­gage­ment in developing this new framework.

      I look forward to seeing Bill 35 imple­mented, as I am confident it will enhance the safety of all K‑to‑12 students in this wonderful province.

      Thank you, merci and miigwech.

Mr. Nello Altomare (Transcona): It always remains a great pleasure to put words on the record regarding public edu­ca­tion, repre­sen­ting the people of Transcona, repre­sen­ting the people that I used to work with in this Chamber. It's a respon­si­bility I don't take very lightly. And, as mentioned, and we're on the record as saying that the safety of Manitoba students is our No. 1 priority, absolutely.

      We are called in loco parentis, Madam Speaker, in place of the parent, when children are handed over at the school door to teachers and to all the pro­fes­sionals that work in the building. This bill is im­por­tant. Like I said earlier, it does reflect our support for account­ability that needs to be there.

      People have to absolutely believe that when they're handing over their children; they're handing them over to people that are committed to their edu­ca­tion and their well-being. A vast majority of public educators in this province–I mean, everyone that I've ever worked with–has that as their No. 1 priority and is certainly aware of that in­cred­ible respon­si­bility that we have as educators.

      I do recall, and I have said this before in the House, Madam Speaker, the many, many steps that teachers take to ensure that students are prepared for whatever endeavour we go on. What this bill will do will ensure that the people that have that respon­si­bility are capable of provi­ding that.

      I want to thank people that presented at com­mit­tee, that proposed amend­ments, the amend­ments that were really im­por­tant, especially the one around having society repre­sen­tation for members when brought before the com­mis­sioner.

      There are pieces that will need to be improved in this parti­cular bill, I'm sure. But as legis­lators here in this Chamber, we will look and see how this bill goes through the process, how it's actually imple­mented, how it works. I think we're all interested in ensuring that everyone in our schools are safe and that we have a process in place that is–not only works well, but also is predictable and is some­thing that people will look at as an im­por­tant piece of ensuring student safety, Madam Speaker.

      I do want to finally wrap my comments up by saying this: I did take seriously some of your com­ments to me regarding how people regard us in the House. As a former educator, people have higher ex­pect­a­tions of people that were teachers in this Chamber. I think it's im­por­tant to remember that. It's more than just me being the MLA; it's what I used to do as well, and that's the im­por­tant piece, and I want to thank you for that advice.

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      And with those few comments, I will sit down and allow others to speak on Bill 35.

      Thank you.

Ms. Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Thank you, Madam Speaker, for the op­por­tun­ity to rise this afternoon and just put a few more words on record for Bill 35, The Edu­ca­tion admin­is­tra­tive–Administration Amendment Act.

      Madam Speaker, we've had the op­por­tun­ity to debate this legis­lation here in the House through­out second reading as well as a lot in the com­mit­tee rooms. And, you know, I've been elected since 2016 now, so, over the course of seven or eight years, I've had the op­por­tun­ity and the privilege to partici­pate in many com­mit­tees.

      And Bill 35 and the pre­sen­ta­tions at com­mit­tee were one of a set of pre­sen­ta­tions that really resonate with a person, that really stick with us MLAs. And I know I've had con­ver­sa­tions with members of the gov­ern­ment, members of the official op­posi­tion party and with my colleagues about some of the pre­sen­ta­tions that we heard, and they were very powerful and impactful.

      And I'm glad to hear that some of the remarks were brought forward, and therefore, this legis­lation was adjusted a little bit. I think we could've brought forward a few more. I know I intro­duced some amend­ments, which I'll talk about shortly, that I think would've been very im­por­tant to have been adopted as well into the legis­lation.

      But I'm hopeful and I'm optimistic that, moving forward, Bill 35 will continue to adapt and that all teachers will have the op­por­tun­ity to have their voices heard as well, Madam Speaker.

      I think that that's one of the things that we need to do better at here in the province of Manitoba, is em­power­ing our teachers. We've seen them step up in ways that we didn't even know teachers had to con­sider stepping up, especially through­out the pan­demic–the adaptability of curriculums, for example; going back from remote learning to in-person learning, oftentimes with 24 hours' notice.

      We've seen teachers here in Manitoba have to use their own money to supply school supplies for their students, Madam Speaker. We've seen them go above and beyond to make sure that children in their class­rooms, their students, are receiving the nutrition that they need, whether that be through meal programs, snacks and morning breakfasts as well.

      And that's why I think it is important that we're listening to them more, that we take to heart what they have to say. Because their best–what is their best interest is the interest of the students, of the children. And I believe that's what they were trying to articulate at com­mit­tee and why I think that it would have been im­por­tant to pass a few of these amend­ments. And I'm just going to speak to them for a moment here, Madam Speaker.

      I brought forward three amend­ments:

      (1) to amend the definition of sig­ni­fi­cant emo­tional harm and the definition of pro­fes­sional mis­conduct because we want to see a more objective ruling on this type of harm;

      (2) to amend by adding to the legis­lation that the com­mis­sioner may decide not to take further action on a complaint if the commissioner determines that the complaint discriminates unreasonably on a teacher based on characteristics set out in The Human Rights Code; and

      (3) to amend that the com­mis­sioner may not decide to take further action on a complaint if they deter­mine that the complaint that led to an in­vesti­gation was made from a place of discrimination based on characteristics set out in The Human Rights Code.

      Madam Speaker, if these amend­ments would've passed, the com­mis­sioner–the–would have the discre­tion to help prevent teachers from being targeted by complaints that may be discriminatory based on characteristics set out in The Human Rights Code.

      I know a lot of the pre­sen­ta­tions that were shared with us at com­mit­tee were teachers expressing that they are nervous about the con­ver­sa­tions that they often have with their students because of this legis­lation, and we want to make sure that we are em­power­ing teachers; we are giving them the tools that they need, because they do; they influence the students and the children here in Manitoba, and they need to have the con­fi­dence to be able to do this in a pro­fes­sional manner and have the support of not only all of us MLAs, but federal and munici­pal politicians as well.

      And with those few words, Madam Speaker, I'm very happy to support the legis­lation, but my hope is that it will continue to adapt with time.

      Thank you.

Madam Speaker: Is the House ready for the question?

Some Honourable Members: Question.

Madam Speaker: The question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 35, The Education Administration Amendment Act (Teacher Certification and Pro­fes­sional Conduct).

      Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? Agreed? [Agreed]

      I declare the motion carried.

      The House will now prepare for royal assent.

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Royal Assent

Deputy Sergeant-at-Arms (Mr. Cam Steel): Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor.

Her Honour Anita R. Neville, Lieutenant Governor of the Province of Manitoba, having entered the House and being seated on the throne, Madam Speaker addressed Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor in the following words:

Madam Speaker: Your Honour:

      At this sitting, the Legislative Assembly has passed certain bills that I ask Your Honour to give assent to.

Clerk Assistant (Ms. Vanessa Gregg):

   Bill 2 – The Official Time Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur le temps réglementaire

   Bill 6 – The Manitoba Public Insurance Corporation Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur la Société d'assurance publique du Manitoba

   Bill 7 – The Liquor, Gaming and Cannabis Control Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur la réglementation des alcools, des jeux et du cannabis

   Bill 8 – The Off-Road Trails Safety and Maintenance Act; Loi sur la sécurité et l'entretien des sentiers pour véhicules à caractère non routier

   Bill 10 – The Liquor, Gaming and Cannabis Control Amendment Act (Social Responsibility Fee Repealed); Loi modifiant la Loi sur la réglementation des alcools, des jeux et du cannabis (abrogation de la taxe de responsabilité sociale)

   Bill 11 – The Reducing Red Tape and Improving Services Act, 2023; Loi de 2023 visant la réduction du fardeau administratif et l'amélioration des services

   Bill 12 – The Minor Amendments and Corrections Act, 2023; Loi corrective de 2023

   Bill 13 – The Wildlife Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur la conservation de la faune

   Bill 15 – The Court of King's Bench Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur la Cour du Banc du Roi

   Bill 16 – The Domestic Violence and Stalking Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur la violence familiale et le harcèlement criminel

   Bill 17 – the regulated health professionals amendment act (2); Loi no 2 modifiant la Loi sur les professions de la santé réglementées

   Bill 18 – The Legislative Security Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur la sécurité de la Cité législative

   Bill 19 – The Provincial Offences Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les infractions provinciales

   Bill 21 – The Highway Traffic Amendment Act; Loi modifiant le Code de la route

   Bill 22 – The Emergency Measures Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les mesures d'urgence

   Bill 23 – The Vulnerable Persons Living with a Mental Disability Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les personnes vulnérables ayant une déficience mentale

   Bill 24 – The Wildfires Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les incendies échappés

   Bill 25 – The Workers Compensation Amend­ment Act (Wildfire Firefighters); Loi modifiant la Loi sur les accidents du travail (pompiers affectés aux incendies échappés)

   Bill 26 – The Limitations Amendment and Public Officers Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les délais de prescription et la Loi sur les officiers publics

   Bill 27 – The Intimate Image Protection Amend­ment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur la protection des images intimes

   Bill 29 – The Life Leases Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les baux viagers

   Bill 31 – The Animal Care Amendment Act (2); Loi no 2 modifiant la Loi sur le soin des animaux

   Bill 32 – An Act respecting Child and Family Services (Indigenous Jurisdiction and Related Amendments); Loi concernant les services à l'enfant et à la famille (champ de compétence autochtone et modifications connexes)

   Bill 34 – The Police Services Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les services de police

   Bill 35 – The Education Administration Amend­ment Act (Teacher Certification and Professional Conduct); Loi modifiant la Loi sur l'administration scolaire (brevets d'enseignement et conduite professionnelle)

   Bill 36 – The Fair Registration Practices in Regulated Professions Amendment Act; Loi modi­fiant la Loi sur les pratiques d'inscription équitables dans les professions réglementées

   Bill 38 – The Builders' Liens Amendment Act (Prompt Payment); Loi modifiant la Loi sur le privilège du constructeur (paiement rapide)

   Bill 40 – The Combative Sports Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les sports de combat

   Bill 43 – The Provincial Offences Amendment Act (2); Loi no 2 modifiant la Loi sur les infractions provinciales

   Bill 204 – The Drivers and Vehicles Amendment Act (Licence Plates for MMIWG2S Awareness); Loi modifiant la Loi sur les conducteurs et les véhicules (plaques de–pardon–plaque d'immatriculation pour la sensibilisation aux femmes, aux filles et aux personnes bispirituelles autochtones disparues et assassinées)

   Bill 218 – An Act respecting the Title "Associate Judge" (Various Acts Amended); Loi sur la désignation de juge puîné (modification de diverses lois)

   Bill 222 – The Public Schools Amendment Act (Nutrition Programs); Loi modifiant la Loi sur les écoles publiques (programmes d'alimentation)–can I read that one again? Okay. Bill 222, The Public Schools Amendment Act (Nutrition Programs); Loi modifiant la Loi sur les écoles publiques (programmes d'alimentation)

   Bill 227 – The Workplace Safety and Health Amendment Act (Access to Washrooms for Delivery Persons); Loi modifiant la Loi sur la sécurité et l'hygiène du travail (accès aux toilettes lors de livraisons)

   Bill 229 – The Farmers' Markets Week Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended); Loi sur la Semaine des marchés fermiers (modification de la Loi sur les journées, les semaines et les mois commémoratifs)

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   Bill 230 – The Municipal Councils and School Boards Elections Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les élections municipales et scolaires

   Bill 231 – The Residential Tenancies Amend­ment Act (2); Loi no 2 modifiant la Loi sur la location à usage d'habitation

   Bill 233 – The Chartered Professionals in Human Resources Act; Loi sur les conseillers en ressources humaines agréés

   Bill 235 – The Employment Standards Code Amendment Act; Loi modifiant le Code des normes d'emploi

   Bill 238 – The Personal Care Home Account­ability Act (Various Acts Amended); Loi sur la responsabilisation des foyers de soins personnels (modification de diverses lois)

   Bill 239 – The Residential Tenancies Amend­ment Act (Application Fees and Deposits); Loi modifiant la Loi sur la location à usage d'habitation (frais de demande et dépôts)

   Bill 240 – The Remembrance Day Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur le jour du Souvenir

   Bill 241 – The Mandatory Training for Provincial Employees (Systemic Racism and Human Rights) Act; Loi sur la formation obligatoire des employés provinciaux (racisme systémique et droits de la personne)

   Bill 242 – The Police and Peace Officers' Memorial Day Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended); Loi sur la Journée commémorative des policiers et des agents de la paix (modification de la Loi sur les journées, les semaines et les mois commémoratifs)

   Bill 244 – The Ducks Unlimited Canada Day Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended); Loi sur la Journée de Canards Illimités Canada (modification de la Loi sur les journées, les semaines et les mois commémoratifs)

Clerk (Ms. Patricia Chaychuk): In His Majesty's name, Her Honour assents to these bills.

Her Honour was then pleased to retire.

O Canada was sung.

God Save the King was sung.

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Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Government House Leader): Could you canvass the House to see if it's the will of members to call it 5 p.m., Madam Speaker?

Madam Speaker: Is it the will of members to call it 5 p.m.? [Agreed]

      The hour being 5 p.m., this House is adjourned and stands adjourned until 1:30 p.m. tomorrow. 


 


LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA

Tuesday, May 30, 2023

CONTENTS


Vol. 62b

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Ministerial Statements

Children's Hospital Champion Children

Stefanson  2737

Kinew   2737

Gerrard  2738

Members' Statements

Greendell Park Community Centre

Squires 2738

Connor Dewar

Lathlin  2739

Swan Valley Sport Fishing Enhancement

Wowchuk  2739

Premier's Leadership Record

Fontaine  2740

Canada Day Pickleball Tournament

Lamoureux  2740

Oral Questions

Rural Paramedics and Nurses

Kinew   2741

Stefanson  2742

Education System

Kinew   2742

Stefanson  2743

Education System

Moses 2744

Ewasko  2744

Education System

Fontaine  2745

Squires 2745

Ewasko  2746

Justice System–Rural Manitoba

Wiebe  2746

Goertzen  2746

Manitoba Hydro

Sala  2747

Cullen  2747

Construction of Churchill River Dam

Lamont 2748

Cullen  2748

Cost-of-Living and Tax Relief

Guenter 2749

Cullen  2749

Rural Paramedic Services

Brar 2749

Teitsma  2749

Paid Leave for Miscarriage or Stillbirth

Lathlin  2750

Goertzen  2750

Petitions

Third Party Advertising Practices

Maloway  2750

Construction Wages

Marcelino  2751

ORDERS OF THE DAY

(Continued)

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Concurrence and Third Readings

Bill 40–The Combative Sports Amendment Act

Khan  2753

Lathlin  2753

Lamoureux  2754

Bill 10–The Liquor, Gaming and Cannabis Control Amendment Act (Social Responsibility Fee Repealed)

Cullen  2754

Naylor 2755

Gerrard  2756

Debate on Concurrence and Third Readings

Bill 22–The Emergency Measures Amendment Act

Bushie  2757

Gerrard  2760

Concurrence and Third Readings

(Continued)

Bill 23–The Vulnerable Persons Living with a Mental Disability Amendment Act

Squires 2760

Fontaine  2761

Gerrard  2762

Bill 32–An Act respecting Child and Family Services (Indigenous Jurisdiction and Related Amendments)

Squires 2763

Fontaine  2764

Gerrard  2766

Bill 35–The Education Administration Amendment Act (Teacher Certification and Professional Conduct)

Ewasko  2767

Altomare  2767

Lamoureux  2768

Royal Assent

Bill 2–The Official Time Amendment Act 2769

Bill 6–The Manitoba Public Insurance Corporation Amendment Act 2769

Bill 7–The Liquor, Gaming and Cannabis Control Amendment Act 2769

Bill 8–The Off-Road Trails Safety and Maintenance Act 2769

Bill 10–The Liquor, Gaming and Cannabis Control Amendment Act (Social Responsibility Fee Repealed) 2769

Bill 11–The Reducing Red Tape and Improving Services Act, 2023  2769

Bill 12–The Minor Amendments and Corrections Act, 2023  2769

Bill 13–The Wildlife Amendment Act 2770

Bill 15–The Court of King's Bench Amendment Act 2770

Bill 16–The Domestic Violence and Stalking Amendment Act 2770

Bill 17–The Regulated Health Professions Amendment Act (2) 2770

Bill 18–The Legislative Security Amendment Act 2770

Bill 19–The Provincial Offences Amendment Act 2770

Bill 21–The Highway Traffic Amendment Act 2770

Bill 22–The Emergency Measures Amendment Act 2770

Bill 23–The Vulnerable Persons Living with a Mental Disability Amendment Act 2770

Bill 24–The Wildfires Amendment Act 2770

Bill 25–The Workers Compensation Amendment Act (Wildfire Firefighters) 2770

Bill 26–The Limitations Amendment and Public Officers Amendment Act 2770

Bill 27–The Intimate Image Protection Amendment Act 2770

Bill 29–The Life Leases Amendment Act 2770

Bill 31–The Animal Care Amendment Act (2) 2770

Bill 32–An Act respecting Child and Family Services (Indigenous Jurisdiction and Related Amendments) 2770

Bill 34–The Police Services Amendment Act 2770

Bill 35–The Education Administration Amendment Act (Teacher Certification and Professional Conduct) 2770

Bill 36–The Fair Registration Practices in Regulated Professions Amendment Act 2770

Bill 38–The Builders' Liens Amendment Act (Prompt Payment) 2770

Bill 40–The Combative Sports Amendment Act 2770

Bill 43–The Provincial Offences Amendment Act (2) 2770

Bill 204–The Drivers and Vehicles Amendment Act (Licence Plates for MMIWG2S Awareness) 2770

Bill 218–An Act respecting the Title "Associate Judge" (Various Acts Amended) 2770

Bill 222–The Public Schools Amendment Act (Nutrition Programs) 2770

Bill 227–The Workplace Safety and Health Amendment Act (Access to Washrooms for Delivery Persons) 2770

Bill 229–The Farmers' Markets Week Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended) 2770

Bill 230–The Municipal Councils and School Boards Elections Amendment Act 2771

Bill 231–The Residential Tenancies Amendment Act (2) 2771

Bill 233–The Chartered Professionals in Human Resources Act 2771

Bill 235–The Employment Standards Code Amendment Act 2771

Bill 238–The Personal Care Home Accountability Act (Various Acts Amended) 2771

Bill 239–The Residential Tenancies Amendment Act (Application Fees and Deposits) 2771

Bill 240–The Remembrance Day Amendment Act 2771

Bill 241–The Mandatory Training for Provincial Employees (Systemic Racism and Human Rights) Act 2771

Bill 242–The Police and Peace Officers' Memorial Day Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended) 2771

Bill 244–The Ducks Unlimited Canada Day Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended) 2771