LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA

Tuesday, May 27, 2025


The House met at 10 a.m.

The Speaker: O Eternal and Almighty God, from Whom all power and wisdom come, we are assembled here before Thee to frame such laws as may tend to the welfare and prosperity of our province. Grant, O merciful God, we pray Thee, that we may desire only that which is in accordance with Thy will, that we may seek it with wisdom, know it with certainty and accomplish it perfectly for the glory and honour of Thy name and for the welfare of all our people. Amen.

      We acknowledge we are gathered on Treaty 1 territory, that Manitoba is located on the treaty territories and ancestral lands of the Anishinaabeg, Anishininewuk, Dakota Oyate, Denesuline and Nehethowuk nations. We acknowledge Manitoba is located on the Homeland of the Red River Métis. We acknowledge northern Manitoba includes lands that were and are the ancestral lands of the Inuit. We respect the spirit and intent of treaties and treaty making and remain committed to working in partnership with First Nations, Inuit and Métis people in the spirit of truth, reconciliation and collaboration.

      Please be seated.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

Hon. Nahanni Fontaine (Government House Leader): Good morning, Hon­our­able Speaker. Would you please call for second reading debate Bill 234, The Pride Month Act.

The Speaker: It's been announced that we will now go to second reading debate of Bill 234, The Pride Month Act (Com­memo­ra­tion of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended).

Second Readings–Public Bills

Bill 234–The Pride Month Act
(Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended)

Mr. Tyler Blashko (Lagimodière): I move, seconded by the hon­our­able member for Radisson (MLA Dela Cruz), that Bill 234, The Pride Month Act (Com­memo­ra­tion of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended); Loi sur le Mois de la fierté (modification de la Loi sur les journées, les semaines et les mois commémoratifs), be now read a second time and be referred to a com­mit­tee of this House.

Motion presented.

Mr. Blashko: Hon­our­able Speaker, as a young queer person navigating the world, I spent a lot of time assessing my relative safety. Which person could I  trust, which group could I share space with, which teachers could I connect with?

      Whether they knew it or not, I was always looking for signals: which people around me freely used slurs, who in my circle readily laughed at unfunny jokes; whenever I mentioned my gay cousin I'd watch for how people responded. That's how I mapped my com­mu­nities in schools, in sports, with my family and, if I'm being honest, I continue to use the strategy today.

      I pay attention to who shows up for our com­mu­nity in person and online, who shows up for votes in this Chamber and who do they for and how do they vote. All these actions show us where people stand and their level of commit­ment to the queer and trans com­mu­nity.

      This bill, Bill 234, is one of those im­por­tant signals our gov­ern­ment can send to the entirety of the province and beyond, that your prov­incial gov­ern­ment sees you and that you are valued here. Regardless of your sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression, you belong and we celebrate you.

      The Pride month bill will recog­nize June as Pride month in the province. Many people are already celebrating in June through parades, marches, rallies and all types of gatherings. They happen in Winnipeg, in smaller centres across rural and northern Manitoba. For anyone worried that this bill will limit Pride to June in any way: have no fear. Pride is 365 days a year, and every fourth year, we get a bonus day for Pride.

      June holds historical sig­ni­fi­cance for our com­mu­nity. On June 28, 1969, the Stonewall Uprising began outside the Stonewall Inn, a gay bar in New York City. Gay bars offered a space for people to express them­selves, free of public scrutiny; however, they were often subject to police harassment. Led by Black and trans com­mu­nity members, people fought back during one parti­cular police raid. Part of the legend around Stonewall is that the com­mu­nity was in mourning over Judy Garland's death, her funeral being the day before. A solid five days of resistance ensued that came to be known as the Stonewall Uprising, a catalyst for queer rights movements across the world.

      While the Stonewall Uprising began on June 28, the law decriminalizing homosexual acts received royal assent here in Canada the same week, and on June 28, 2005, same sex marriage was legalized here in Canada.

      Queer com­mu­nity and resistance didn't begin at Stonewall; we have always been here. Across geog­raphies, nations, gen­era­tions and gender expressions, the queer and trans com­mu­nity have con­tri­bu­ted and been valued members of their com­mu­nities. Colonialism, patriarchy, misogyny, fascism and racism have led us to this point where we have to reclaim our rightful space in the broader com­mu­nity. Our existence is only political because it's been politicized.

      Here in Canada, there is a long history of state surveillance of the com­mu­nity. The Canadian Museum for Human Rights has an im­por­tant exhibit about the LGBT Purge. From the 1950s to the 1990s, the Gov­ern­ment of Canada systemically investigated, harassed and fired 2SLGBTQI+ members of the Canadian Armed Forces, the RCMP and the federal public service. Now called the LGBT Purge, this official policy destroyed thousands of careers, did untold psychological damage and ruined lives.

      It's im­por­tant we consider Manitoba's unique context. In 1987, Manitoba was the third province to include sexual orientation in its Human Rights Code. Two weeks following its adoption, the first official Pride gathering in Manitoba was held in Winnipeg. The queer and trans com­mu­nity no longer had to hide, but many did due to the long-standing stigma around queer identity. During this first Pride march, some people wore paper bags to mask their identity.

      The term two-spirit, now widely used, origin­­ated  here in 1990. Two-spirit, or niizh manidoowag [two-spirit] in Ojibwe, was adopted at the third annual Interlake–Intertribal Native American, First Nations, Gay and Lesbian American Conference. It is meant to capture that vast and unique gender identities and expressions within Indigenous queer com­mu­nities. We're fortunate to have com­mu­nity elders like Albert McLeod present at the gathering who continue to play vital roles in our com­mu­nities.

      They were trailblazers that made my existence in the space much more plausible. Jim Rondeau was the first openly gay person elected in 1999, followed by Jennifer Howard in 2007. I want to give a special shout-out to Nancy Allan, the former minister of Educa­tion who worked so hard to make schools safer in our com­mu­nities. I'm lucky to be part of a thriving queer caucus today. Here on this side of the House, we have the Minister of Health, Seniors and Long-Term Care (MLA Asagwara), the Minister of Infrastructure and Trans­por­tation, the member for Kirkfield Park (Mr. Oxenham) and the member for Radisson (MLA Dela Cruz), and I'm so fortunate to be among their colleagues.

      In the 20 months of our gov­ern­ment, we have made meaningful im­prove­ments in access to gender-affirming care. We've intro­duced legis­lation that will include gender expression under the Human Rights Code, made HIV medi­cation free and accessible and we've officially recog­nized two-spirit and trans day of visibility.

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      The queer and trans com­mu­nity have never been afforded the luxury of assuming progress is inevitable, and our place in the wider com­mu­nity has never been assured. We are in a moment in history where our trans relatives in the US are losing their jobs and trans existence is being literally erased from the Stonewall national historic site. Premiers in other provinces are willing to use the notwithstanding clause to ban doctors from provi­ding gender-affirming care to trans youth. Here in Manitoba, we have hate-filled groups looking to erase the presence of our com­mu­nities in schools.

      At this time last year, four members of the PC caucus voted against the member for Kirkfield Park's two-spirit trans day of visibility bill. Just last week, the member from Dawson Trail said he doesn't see gender, a bold statement to say the least. I don't know if we're all just gelatinous blobs to him, but negating people's lived ex­per­iences is a pretty stunted position for someone sitting in this Chamber.

      We can almost empathize with this level of under­standing when we consider the company he keeps and the campaign the PCs ran in the last general election. Using tired dog whistles around parental rights, this formerly governing party targeted trans students. They targeted young people for simply trying to navigate their formative years in the best way. They targeted educators and parents who support young people. And the poster boy for this campaign is now their leader and has yet to apologize for it and arguably still actively courts transphobic sentiment within his supporters.

      I come to this role having worked in education for over a decade. I worked with high school students and  supported many queer and trans students as they embrace their identities. I would often be in con­ver­sa­tions with guardians supporting them as they learned to fully celebrate the young people and their lives. For  a little–for a political party to actively nurture disinformation and put young people at risk is abhorrent.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, I say all this to hold those members accountable for their actions and their silence, but also to underline why this bill is neces­sary. Pride is a recognition of our histories, our collective wins and our commit­ment to building a better world. There's space for joy, dancing and cele­bration at Pride, but also sorrow, reflection and anger. It also presents a giant op­por­tun­ity to invite more people in and further build understanding and ap­pre­cia­tion for the diversity of the com­mu­nity.   

      I want to thank the people in the gallery who have joined us. It takes all of us to make these futures possible, and we see your work and commit­ment.

      Members opposite have a choice. They can ensure this bill passes second reading this morning or they can delay it and lean into their party's transphobic and homophobic lineage.

      Clearly, we on this side of the House want this bill to pass. Regardless of where we get to today, many Pride celebrations will take place in June and 2SLGBTQIA+ com­mu­nity members, their friends, families and allies know they have an NDP prov­incial gov­ern­ment that stands with them.

      We are forever indebted to our com­mu­nity elders who share their ex­per­iences so generously and con­tinue to fight to make a better world for future gen­era­tions.

      And to the youth: know that you are loved and deserve com­mu­nity, to flourish and share your talents with the world. We celebrate you not in spite of your sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, we celebrate you because of it. You are part of expansive futures we haven't even imagined yet. And you will lay the foundation for new possi­bilities for gen­era­tions to come.

      Thank you.

Questions

The Speaker: A question period of up to 10 minutes will be held. Questions may be addressed to the sponsoring member by any member in the following sequence: first question to be asked by a member from another party; this is to be followed by a rotation between parties; and each independent member may ask one question. And no question or answer shall exceed 45 seconds.

      The floor is now open for questions.

Mr. Richard Perchotte (Selkirk): I want to thank the member from Lagimodière for bringing forward this very im­por­tant bill. As legislatures–legis­lators here, we have an op­por­tun­ity to come together and protect the rights of everybody in our province, and this does that.

      Can the member please tell me what the prov­incial government can do to help promote the essence of this bill?

Mr. Tyler Blashko (Lagimodière): I ap­pre­ciate the question.

      Us passing this bill–really, like, coming from the world of edu­ca­tion, I think it really gives a prime oppor­tun­ity for people in the com­mu­nity to take this moment where we are passing legis­lation, where there is potentially, like, coverage in the media and really amplify the message that everyone here in Manitoba belongs and everyone is welcome.

      So it's incumbent on all of us to take on this work.

Hon. Lisa Naylor (Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure): I've noted that several members of the op­posi­tion are never in the Chamber when LGBTQ issues are talked about. In fact–

The Speaker: Order, please.

      Just to remind the minister that we're not allowed to indicate whether members are present or absent.

MLA Naylor: I think it's safe to say that there will be some MLAs who choose not to partici­pate in listening to anything about queer joy ever and to hear about your bill.

      And so I would just ask the member: Why should all MLAs in Manitoba enthusiastically support this bill?

Mr. Blashko: I thank the member for that question. And my default is enthusiasm.

      So I think it's im­por­tant for all MLAs to engage with the com­mu­nity because I–the queer com­mu­nity is, I think, unique in that whether you go to church, whether you go to temple, no matter where you work, no matter what sports you play, you intersect with the com­mu­nity. We're members of your family, we're members of your place of worship, and so there's a unique op­por­tun­ity for us to take this message and build those connections across different experiences.

Mr. Wayne Balcaen (Brandon West): Thanks to the member for Lagimodière (Mr. Blashko) for bringing this im­por­tant bill forward; timely as well, as June is often recog­nized as Pride month.

      So my question is: How would this recog­nition impact the 2SLGBTQ+ com­mu­nity in Manitoba?

Mr. Blashko: Thank you for the question.

      Well, I think it's–as you mentioned, June is often already–or as the member mentioned, June is already often recog­nized. So in my opinion, this bill is arguably overdue. Some people were surprised that this wasn't already in legis­lation. But I think it positively impacts–it's an opportunity–I'll speak to the en­gage­ment that I did in con­sul­ta­tion. I met with Rainbow Resource Centre, Sunshine House, Eastman Pride, Pride Winnipeg, Brandon Pride, Two-Spirit Michif Local, 2 Spirits in Motion Society, as well as the Bahaghari Pride group.

      And so the op­por­tun­ity to meet and discuss and talk about the potential for more con­ver­sa­tion around the role of gov­ern­ment, but also the role of com­mu­nity and amplifying healthy com­mu­nities and–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

MLA Naylor: I ap­pre­ciate that the member mentioned Jennifer Howard, who served as the first out lesbian in this Legislature. And I mention–I want to mention that because Jennifer's visibility was a contributing factor to my having the courage to put my name forward to run as an MLA and then serve as the second out lesbian in this Legislature.

      So I want to ask the member what he thinks about how Pride month being recog­nized would help increase visibility for LGBTQ all-the-spectrum queers across the province and what that would mean for the com­mu­nity around visibility and being represented in spaces such as this?

Mr. Blashko: I thank the member for that question.

      I think repre­sen­tation is super im­por­tant. You see that on this side of the House, how diverse our caucus is. And June–I don't know about other members in the House, but I spend a lot of time going to schools and talking to young people about my journey, about the role of gov­ern­ment, about my intersecting identities as a queer Métis person.

      And so I think it's really an opportunity–everything we do in here is an opportunity to engage different communities and the public and help build better understanding between different com­mu­nities. So I think we can really take this and run with it.

Mr. Perchotte: Once again, I'm glad we're debating this beautiful bill here in the Legislature today. The PCs have–it was mentioned to your House leader that we are in full support of this bill and we look forward to its passing today.

      In your con­sul­ta­tions that you had, in your exten­sive con­sul­ta­tions, were there any sug­ges­tions or calls to action to be done by us as legis­lators?

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Mr. Blashko: I ap­pre­ciate the question and I'll just, like, point out that it was referred to as a beautiful bill, so I really ap­pre­ciate the kind words. A lot of time went into this bill and we ap­pre­ciate all the support that comes with it.

      The com­mu­nity always–there's always op­por­tun­ity to build on pieces of legis­lation and the work we're doing here, so, like I said in my opening remarks: the work is never done. Things are never taken for granted. We're working to build up different com­mu­nities but we're also working to safeguard the things we have in place.

      So we're in regular con­ver­sa­tion with the folks I  mentioned through the con­sul­ta­tion process, but also so many other groups. And how do we build a more welcoming–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

MLA Naylor: As the member mentioned, Pride month has been recog­nized in the US and, of course, in Canada, I think, officially for about nine years now. But this is a big new step to recog­nize the whole month in Manitoba.

      I know that, for me, it means lots of queer beer on–maybe not lots–a little bit of queer beer on patios, lots of time seeing drag shows, listening to queer poetry.

      And I'm just wondering how the member plans to celebrate best this Pride month?

Mr. Blashko: I really ap­pre­ciate the question, and I  may join you for a queer beer.

      So I spend Pride month going to a lot of different Pride events here in Winnipeg. Also I love going out to different Prides. I've been to Pembina Valley many times, been to Steinbach, been to Brandon. I think it's really im­por­tant that we support Pride events across the province because different com­mu­nities are facing different–tough realities, depending on their context.

      I–as I said, I spend a lot of time in schools. I also spend a fair amount of time tipping drag performers. And I also like to pick up a book by a queer author whenever I can. I just picked up a memoir–or, sorry, a biography on Marsha P. Johnson–

The Speaker: Time has expired.

Mr. Balcaen: Well, again, it gives me op­por­tun­ity to ask a question on this im­por­tant bill being brought forward.

      My question is: Does any other juris­dic­tion in Canada officially commemorate Pride month, or will this be the only province to do so?

Mr. Blashko: You know what, thank you for the question. I believe we–I did look into that, and I have to be honest, I can't remember the answer at this moment, so I'm–I'd be happy to get back to the member on where we're at–regards to Pride month across Canada.

      I like to think we're trailblazers, but also, in this context, it would be great if all the other provinces and territories are already doing this, so–but I am happy to get back to you–or get back to the member with that answer.

MLA Naylor: Just for our last question, maybe I'll give the member an op­por­tun­ity to share a little bit about the Pride celebration that's taking place, hosted by our Minister of Families (MLA Fontaine) later this week?

Mr. Blashko: I thank the member for the question.

      Yes, on Thursday, we are having a wonderful Pride celebration here in the Rotunda. It's some­thing that we've done–well, we started last year, but we're inviting more and more com­mu­nities into the people's building. And so this year is the second year where we're having a Pride celebration. There will be drag performers. There will be music. There will be colour and food and–

An Honourable Member: No queer beer, though.

Mr. Blashko: No, no beer allowed, apparently.

      Thank you.

The Speaker: The time for questions has expired.

Debate

The Speaker: The floor is now open for debate.

Mr. Richard Perchotte (Selkirk): I am proud to stand up and put some words on the record on this–what I referred to as a beautiful bill. Any bill that uplifts the spirits and the com­mu­nity that we are so blessed to have in our province is a beautiful bill.

      When I entered into politics, it was not for an ego, it was to give back to my com­mu­nity, to represent the people of my com­mu­nity–everyone in the com­mu­nity. And when I have an op­por­tun­ity to stand in the House and speak on some­thing that goes a little bit further than we do on a daily basis to recog­nize people from the 2SLGBTQ+ com­mu­nity and to say that you matter, you're a part of our world, you're a part of our lives, you're a part of our com­mu­nities and we embrace that.

      I personally love people. I love all people regardless of who you worship, if you worship, where you live, your status in life, whether you have a physical or mental dis­abil­ity and, most especially, who you love is your busi­ness.

      When I asked to speak on this bill, I was reminded of several stories that happened to me through­out my  entire life. As a child going to school, I had a wonderful friend. His name was Mike. We hung out all the time. I discovered very early that Mike wasn't interested in girls, but he was a great friend of mine and we hung out together for a long time and, eventually, he told me when he was about 13 that he was gay. And he says, I know we probably won't be friends anymore. We stayed friends. A friend is a friend. He was always there for me. Because he told me who he was, didn't change our relationship.

      And as I moved from the area, we stayed in friends and eventually, in grade 9, he came over for my grade 9 graduation. And, unfor­tunately for him, he was picked on, on my graduation, because people could tell that he was gay. And they couldn't understand because they knew I wasn't. So I was very disappointed in the people who I thought were my friends in the new school because they could not see past their own biases and bigotry. And I think this bill can do some­thing to eliminate that.

      And I've got countless stories of that situation happening to people through­out my lifetime. When I  owned a machine shop, across my desk came the résumé from a lady. Her name was Michelle, and Michelle lived in Ontario prior to applying for a job here in Winnipeg. And when I looked at her résumé, it was glowing. She was a wonderful machinist. The capabilities of this lady was in­cred­ible, and I couldn't wait to get her on the phone to have her come in for an interview.

      And during the con­ver­sa­tion, I said, well, why are you–why did you choose Winnipeg? And she said, well, I'm just looking for a change. I just want to have some­thing different in life. I've gone about as far as I  can go in my area where I live.

      And, quickly, Michelle accelerated. She brought some­thing into our company that nobody else had. She was super organized. She would take over on a piece of equip­ment. She would be able to not only keep the production numbers up, she would be–the quality assurance was a hundred per cent, but the areas were organized and tidy.

      And I knew that she was gay. I knew she was part of the 2SLGBTQ+ com­mu­nity. And some people call it gaydar; I could tell from her that she was from the com­mu­nity. And we didn't talk about it, but she quickly excelled in the company and became a supervisor. And eventually, we got closer in our com­muni­cations; became more as friends.

      As time went on, Michelle met another lady, and after them dating for quite some time, she asked me some­thing that I was very honoured: she asked me if I would be able to walk her down the aisle in her marriage. And I was so proud.

      And I asked about if any of her family was going to be there, and she confided in me that the reason she left Ontario is because she was being tormented and stalked, not just from the people she worked with, but members of her family who could not understand that she–her coming out didn't change who she was; she was always gay, but criticized and ridiculed her where she had to leave.

      And when she came to Winnipeg, she found a home. She found a home for work within our company. She found a home within the com­mu­nity that she felt so a part of. And she had a beautiful wedding. It was a proud day that we were a part of it.

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      Now, any op­por­tun­ity that we have as legislatures to come in here and pass bills to protect people, to  make sure that people have the right to be who they want to be, have the op­por­tun­ity to move forward, love who they want to love–it's our differences that make us so unique as a com­mu­nity, but those differ­ences bind us together.

      And edu­ca­tion, which this bill can really make a part of–help educate people, that the people in our com­mu­nity are welcome here, people in all com­mu­nities, people of different faiths, people of different beliefs, people of different parenting styles, people of different directions that they want to be in life–and especially people of the 2SLGBTQ+ com­mu­nity are welcome.

      We need to put down barriers that stop people from being the best of them­selves and allow people to do just what they need to do–is flourish in our province. And I said in the begin­ning, I love people. And this beautiful bill represents that.

      And I want to thank the member from Lagimodière for bringing this forward and I look forward to its passing here this morning.

      Thank you.

Hon. Nahanni Fontaine (Minister of Families): I  want to just get up and say a couple of words in respect of this morning's bill.

      First off, I want to just thank our colleague for bringing forward this really im­por­tant–some would say beautiful–bill this morning.

      I also just want to shout-out our caucus–it was mentioned by our–one of our ministers: we're so proud to have a caucus that represents all Manitobans, including 2SLGBTQIA+ com­mu­nities. In fact, often when I'm asked to speak, I will often talk about how the member for Union Station (MLA Asagwara) is the first Black, queer, non-binary member elected anywhere across the country. That's our caucus, and I'm so proud to work alongside our 2S–LGBTQ2I caucus members. Nothing gives me more pride than that.

      I want to just acknowledge a special shout-out to my chief of staff. Folks will know, and I think probably, you know, people will notice that I say this all the time, the–our Families team is the best. I have literally the best Families team. And all of it is led by Alex Krosney, who is my chief of staff, who is queer, who is unapologetically queer, who plays hockey, who rollerblades, who is one of the most in­cred­ibly intelligent, loyal, loving, com­pas­sion­ate individuals that I am so, so blessed to work with and I just wanted to give her a shout-out this morning.

      And then, to all of our collective gov­ern­ment and political staff, 2SLGBTQI staff, it's an honour to work with everybody and I'm so proud that our gov­ern­ment is repre­sen­tative of all Manitobans. All Manitobans have the right to be in this Chamber, they have a right to work in this building, they have a right to come into this building and celebrate–it is the people's building–and so I just want to also lift up all of our staff and our political staff that we have.

      I just want to say this, I don't want to take up too much time or space: I want to reflect on, as an ally, some­thing that ensured that I would always stand on the side of human rights and stand on the side of right, parti­cularly in respect of 2S–LGBTQ2I com­mu­nity members.

      In 1997, I was doing my first degree and I took a class on–I think it was child psychology. And at the time, my son Jonah, my oldest son–I believe he was like, 18 months old, 19 months old. And I'll always remember that we were talking about–I can't remember what we were talking about, but this statistic came out that the prof was talking about. And the prof said how the statistics bore out that little boys, young men from the ages of 12 to 18 who are gay, 60 per cent of those little boys and those young men will attempt suicide. And I was horrified by that statistic.

      And I remember because my son was, like, 18 or 19 months old, and I love my children more than anything in the world, I remember thinking, well, I, as his mum, have to create a space, a family in which whoever he is, he knows that he's loved, that he's safe, that he's–he can exist. But for me, I take that for all of us. Like, every human being must be safe to live their most authentic, beautiful, unapologetic life.

      And so, as the minister, all these years later, to now be the minister respon­si­ble for–in WAGE, in Women and Gender Equity, for 2S–LGBTQ2I, I just want the com­mu­nity to know that it is one of my–it is the honour of my life to be in this role and to be an ally and to work in a min­is­terial capacity to ensure that we are doing the best in this province, in this gov­ern­ment to ensure that there is safety, there is inclusion, there is equity.

      Parti­cularly in this historic moment in which we see our folks across the border in the US, who are legislatively, methodically and strategically attacking the 2SLGBTQI com­mu­nities; they are legislating the rights away of citizens and for what? Because people are ignorant, they are archaic, they're homophobic, they're transphobic, all of those things.

      And so it's really im­por­tant that us, as a gov­ern­ment, but also this Legis­lative Assembly, every moment that we can stand up, not only for Manitoba citizens, but for all citizens, here in Canada, across the border, or any other country in which we see attacks on the human rights of 2S–LGBTQ2I com­mu­nities.

      It is an honour for each and every one of us to be  elected to sit in this space, to be respon­si­ble for Manitobans. And so, while I ap­pre­ciate the members opposite and their support of this morning's bill, I  want to point out that it's not enough to say that I  support this bill; I had a friend who was gay, so I get it. And I ap­pre­ciate that, but when you have members in the PC caucus that stand up in this Legis­lative building, in this Assembly and vote against trans rights and two-spirit rights; when you have the Leader of the Op­posi­tion who was the face of a campaign of hate against children, against the most targeted and marginalized of our com­mu­nities, and still has not  apologized today–is beyond disrespectful and deplorable.

      And so I'm glad that we can all agree that the member's bill is beautiful. Indeed it is, indeed the Manitoba 2S–LGBTQ2I com­mu­nity is beautiful and resilient and courageous and generous and all of  these things, but in this Chamber, people have to stand up and take their respon­si­bility, their sacred responsibility serious and always stand on the side of human rights; and always stand on the side of right, including standing for Manitoba 2S–LGBTQ2I com­mu­nities.

      Miigwech.

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The Speaker: Is the House ready for the question?

An Honourable Member: Question.

An Honourable Member: No.

The Speaker: The question before–the hon­our­able Minister of Health, Seniors and Long-Term Care.

Hon. Uzoma Asagwara (Minister of Health, Seniors and Long-Term Care): I just want to put a few words on the record.

      I want to thank our colleague, the MLA from Lagimodière, for bringing this really im­por­tant legis­lation forward. It's, quite frankly, long overdue–it's long overdue–and I'm really grateful that it's a member of our caucus, a member of the com­mu­nity, who thought to bring this legis­lation forward for our province. I am glad to hear that hopefully it'll be fully supported in this House and hopefully passed.

      I want to thank the guests who are with us in the gallery. I see a lot of faces, folks in the com­mu­nity–from the com­mu­nity of which I'm very proud to be a part of here in our province, who have done work for many, many years across many different areas to make sure that our com­mu­nities are moving in the right direction and fully affirmed across Manitoba. It takes a lot of time and energy to do that work in com­mu­nity. It's pretty thankless work a lot of the time, but folks keep showing up, and it's wonderful that they took the time to show up here today.

      I want to acknowledge the queer elders amongst our com­mu­nity–queer and trans and two-spirit elders. It's a real blessing in our com­mu­nity when you get to see decades and decades worth of life, and it's some­thing that we take very seriously and we cherish because it's not a given.

      As minister–the Minister of Families (MLA Fontaine) already stated, our young people, our com­mu­nity members navigate unfair oppression and hatred and harm that results in increased rates of suicide, premature mortality. It's work that we all must do to endeavour to make sure that our com­mu­nities live long, full, healthy and happy lives.

      And so our queer elders, who get to live in Manitoba and see that they have a gov­ern­ment in place that truly champions them and sees them, they deserve that. They deserve to see this bill passed. They deserve to see that they have a gov­ern­ment that honours them in their full identities. And, you know, someone like me gets to stand in the Legislature today because queer elders who came before us paved a path that was easier.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, I take very seriously being in the role as an MLA, a legislator and as a minister. I  don't take it for granted, and I'm really proud to be part of a caucus led by a Premier (Mr. Kinew) that has never had to be reminded to stand on the side with com­mu­nity. I'm very proud to be part of a team that has always taken very seriously any op­por­tun­ity that we have to celebrate the 2SLGBTQIA+ com­mu­nity and advocate for the rights of these in­creasingly diverse com­mu­nity members.

      I do think it is im­por­tant that we acknowledge that the harms of the recent past by the previous PC administration, by members–every single member on that side of the House, has yet to be fully atoned for. I  still hear from Manitobans who are navigating the trauma and the fear that they ex­per­ienced during the 2023 electoral campaign the PCs ran, where the leader of their now-party was the face of a campaign targeting trans children.

      I remember standing outside this building during a rally during the campaign period where hundreds of  Manitobans showed up to say that they don't support that kind of behaviour, and to also say that they were afraid. I remember having con­ver­sa­tions with parents and with kids who were afraid for what their future in Manitoba might look like if the Leader of the Op­posi­tion and members of that side of the House were in power, and that fear carried on after our gov­ern­ment came into power. People needed reassurance that we would make sure their rights were protected and advanced, and we have done just that.

      And this bill, I think, is another really im­por­tant example of our gov­ern­ment's commit­ment to making sure that the 2SLGBTQIA+ com­mu­nity is protected, is celebrated and is continually moving in a direction of true equity, not only in Manitoba, not only across our country, but beyond our country's borders. Because we know that people across the world are looking at little Manitoba right now, are seeing what we're able to do in the area of human rights and saying it is possible.

      We know that queer and trans com­mu­nities are looking at Manitoba and saying: it is possible to live a good life, to be respected by your gov­ern­ment, to have gender expression brought forward as some­thing that should be protected in The Human Rights Code. And you will have elected people who look like the diversity of our province standing up for you and having your back.

      And so, on this side of the House, we're thrilled that this bill was brought forward. We want to see it passed.

      Com­mu­nities need to know that there is no gov­ern­ment that could be in power, there is no political wind that could blow in the United States or anywhere else that would ever change our position as a caucus.

We stand with the com­mu­nity. We love the 2SLGBTQIA+ com­mu­nity, unapologetically. And we thank the com­mu­nity for making Manitoba a better place to be. We thank the com­mu­nity for making Manitoba a beautiful place to be.

      And I look forward to moving forward into a Pride weekend full of joy, because we talk so often about the challenges the com­mu­nity faces; we don't talk enough about the joy of what it means to be queer and trans and two-spirit and a part of the com­mu­nity. There's a lot of joy there. And bills like this affirm that joy. And every single member of our com­mu­nity deserves to embrace it and to ex­per­ience it. And we are committed and I am committed to making sure that that is the path forward in this province, as long as you have an NDP gov­ern­ment.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

The Speaker: Is the House ready for the question?

Some Honourable Members: Question.

The Speaker: The question before the House, then, is second reading of Bill 234, The Pride Month Act (Com­memo­ra­tion of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended).

      Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed]

Hon. Nahanni Fontaine (Government House Leader): A recorded vote, Hon­our­able Speaker.

The Speaker: A recorded vote has been requested, and I must advise the House that, according to rule 24(7), a division requested during private members' hour must be deferred to the private members' hour the following Thursday. The deferred vote shall take place at 11:55 a.m. on Thursday and shall not be further deferred.

MLA Fontaine: Hon­our­able Speaker, can you see if there's the will of the House to call it 11?

The Speaker: Is it the will of the House to call it 11? [Agreed]

      The hour being 11, it is now time for private members' reso­lu­tions, and the reso­lu­tion–[interjection]

      The hon­our­able Gov­ern­ment House Leader.

MLA Fontaine: Hon­our­able Speaker, can we just recess for one minute, please? I apologize. Can we–

The Speaker: The hon­our­able Gov­ern­ment House Leader.

MLA Fontaine: I apologize, Hon­our­able Speaker. Can we recess for five minutes, please?

The Speaker: Is there leave to recess for five minutes? [Agreed]

      Leave has been granted and the bells will ring for one minute.

The House recessed at 10:49 a.m.

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The House resumed at 10:54 a.m.

The Speaker: Order, please. I could call us back to order.

      The previously requested five-minute leave has expired.

Resolutions

Res. 18–Supporting the Agri­cul­tural Industry in Manitoba

The Speaker: So now we will move on to private members' reso­lu­tions. The reso­lu­tion before us this morning is reso­lu­tion No. 18, Supporting the Agri­cul­tural Industry in Manitoba, brought forward by the hon­our­able member for the–Burrows.

Mr. Diljeet Brar (Burrows): I move, seconded by the member for Kildonan-River East (Mrs. Schott),

WHEREAS agriculture is an important part of the economic and cultural history of Manitoba and is vital to the prosperity of the province; and

WHEREAS the previous, failed PC Provincial Government shuttered 21 Manitoba Agri­cul­tural Services Corporations (MASC) and agricultural offices across the province, leaving producers without access to essential, in-person services; and

WHEREAS the previous, failed PC Provincial Government neglected to address issues the agri­cultural industry in Manitoba was facing; and

WHEREAS the Provincial Government unequivocally supports farmers and agribusiness in Manitoba; and

WHEREAS the Provincial Government is proud to support agricultural businesses in the face of tariffs and threatened tariffs from China and the United States; and

WHEREAS the Provincial Government is proud to help keep life affordable for farmers by extending the rent freeze on agricultural Crown land into 2025; and

WHEREAS the Provincial Government is proud to bring in-person services back to farmers by reopening two new MASC offices in Shoal Lake and Virden; and

WHEREAS the Provincial Government is proud to help young farmers get the support they need by increasing the Young Farmer Rebate to $40,000 with Budget 2025; and

WHEREAS the Provincial Government is stepping up to complete the Prairie Innovation Centre for Sustainable Agriculture with $60 million in capital funding and an additional $60 million in bridge funding, adding hundreds of additional training seats and creating more jobs to meet the growing labour demand; and

WHEREAS the Provincial Government was the first provincial government in the country to signal its support in 2025 for AgriStability in the face of tariffs and threatened tariffs from China and the United States; and

WHEREAS the Provincial Government is investing $13 million for Cereals Canada to develop the Global Agriculture Technology Exchange, a world-class centre in downtown Winnipeg that will support grain producers and processors in their ongoing efforts to establish new international trading partners.

      THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Legis­lative Assembly be urged to recog­nize and applaud the prov­incial gov­ern­ment for its suc­cess­ful efforts in supporting and growing the agri­cul­tural industry in Manitoba.

Motion presented.

Mr. Brar: Hon­our­able Speaker, thanks for the op­por­tun­ity to bring this reso­lu­tion forward on a very impor­tant day, which is the first day of my 51st round around the sun.

      So I'm happy to speak to this reso­lu­tion, and the topic is agriculture, so I love it; I like it. I would say:

Punjabi spoken

Bhatkiyan rohiyan te biyabaan vi bhatke /
Takkrdi toli te keetay kamm vi jattkay /
Kiddan Canada zindagi ki puchhdain taya /
Maza jo khet vich aya oh kidhray hor nahi aya.

Translation

(During my settlement struggle) I wandered through desolate lands and wilderness too /
Did a variety of jobs from retail to farm work /
Dear uncle, if you ask me, how is life in Canada? I would say:
The joy found working at the farm, was never found anywhere else.

English

      I don't need a translator for this today, but anyways, thank you so much for the expansion of translation services, I would translate it right away. This is a little poem that I wrote in 2014 when I was working at a farm in Minto, Manitoba. What is says is that, during my settlement struggle in Canada, I had to go for so many jobs, which is a wide range of jobs, and one of them was working at a farm. And that is some­thing that I enjoyed the most. That tells about my interests, that tells about my connection to agri­cul­ture and that reminds me that I belong to a family that has been farming for gen­era­tions.

       And it reminds me that agri­cul­ture is im­por­tant and soil is the basis of what is produced around us and that's the basis of our survival. And I never forget how im­por­tant soil is. And I realize that basically soil is our final home; that's where we would be resting finally. So very im­por­tant topic, very im­por­tant subject, very im­por­tant op­por­tun­ity.

      And today's reso­lu­tion, as I just said, talks about agri­cul­ture, its im­por­tant–its importance and invites all members to share their thoughts about agri­cul­ture in Manitoba and how we can make it better. So the reso­lu­tion says, therefore be it resolved that the Legis­lative Assembly of Manitoba be urged to recog­nize and applaud the prov­incial gov­ern­ment for its suc­cess­ful efforts in supporting and growing the agri­cul­tural industry in Manitoba.

      I ap­pre­ciate what our gov­ern­ment is doing to make the ag industry better and I ap­pre­ciate the team, which is all of us, spe­cific­ally of our wonderful Ag Minister and of our Ag critic. This is a good team and we're all serving Manitobans together.

      I want to share this story with you, maybe I shared with a few people. It was in late 2014 that I was working in the Agri­cul­ture office, Arborg, and my reception desk bell rings. I got out and see a gentleman. I said, how can I help you? And the gentleman says, I'm the minister of Agri­cul­ture. That was the first time when I met this gentleman, who is now again, Minister of Agri­cul­ture (Mr. Kostyshyn) in Manitoba. So thanks for that intro­duction and thanks for all the great work that you did and you're continuing to do for Manitoba.

* (11:00)

      When we talk about agri­cul­ture, we talk about the challenges at the same time. It's not just the farmer, it's not just the gov­ern­ment. There are a number of people who work together to make it better. I want to mention researchers, extension workers, trainers, educators and also rural media; they work together to make it better.

      And there are uncertainties and there are challenges all the time. We are currently in a phase where we are facing challenges. And I want to share this: that we're heading towards times when there would be labour shortage at its peak.

      By 2029, we would be having 123,000 workers labour gap: that would be one in every three jobs vacant. So that's what we're heading towards and we have to work together to make things better. And I  also want to mention that agri­cul­ture con­tri­bu­ted $122 billion to Canadian economy in 2018; that's an old data.

      So I want to mention a few things that our gov­ern­ment has done to address these gaps–not just labour but training gaps, other gaps, research gaps and so on. I want to mention Prairie Innovation Centre for Sus­tain­able Agri­cul­ture at Assiniboine Com­mu­nity College.

      Our gov­ern­ment has recently announced $60 million capital invest­ment in this project, which is going to be utilized for applied research labs, industry en­gage­ment, labour market dev­elop­ment, and it would be surveying 800+ Ag students per year in that facility, so I'm proud to be part of the gov­ern­ment that announced it.

      And the beauty about this an­nounce­ment is that the $20 million, which includes the child-care infra­structure for 216 spaces on site, so that our workers, our researchers, our trainers can work worry-free and have their kids just beside them there in that child-care centre.

      And it would be creating 1,000 new jobs, so I want to con­gratu­late ACC. I want to con­gratu­late Mark Frison and Nicole Gaudette for their leadership at ACC.

      We have also opened two new Ag offices at Shoal Lake and Virden. And I want to remind that when I  was Ag critic, I advocated against closing MASC and Ag offices by the previous gov­ern­ment and I got so much ap­pre­cia­tion for that.

      I want to share this story. The other day I was having dinner in Brandon at a restaurant. Agri­cul­tural minister was with me, member for Brandon East (Mr. Simard) was with me. Two tall gentlemen came to me, tapped my shoulder, saying, hey, are you the member for Burrows?

      I said yes. We are just stopping to say thank you for your advocacy on the Ag file for so many years. And then I intro­duced those young farmers to my colleagues there. So people listen; people watch what you do. So it's very easy to close the offices but it's very hard to re-open them. We did.

      I did go to Teulon office and collect pictures there to spread the word about the wrong choice that was made to close this, because the com­mu­nity in Teulon was worried about the economic loss. That office rent was a few thousand dollars and that rent and that, you know, money was being cycled into the local economy, and the staff working there would go to fill their cars, go to lunch, to local restaurants. So it was a beautiful, beautiful, you know, office there: an asset for that com­mu­nity. That's just one example.

      And everybody knows we have talked a lot about Crown lands. We are working to make Crown lands file better. And there are so many busi­ness risk programs that we are working to improve on.

      In light of the time, I would conclude my comments here, and I would welcome my colleagues to speak to this reso­lu­tion so that we can create and utilize this op­por­tun­ity to talk about agri­cul­ture, talk about our wonderful producers and the land and the production that we have and that we feel proud of, and that we utilize to produce food to feed the world.

      Thank you so much, Hon­our­able Speaker.

The Speaker: Prior to moving on to the question period for this reso­lu­tion, I must remind members that, seeing as we called it 11 o'clock at 10:47, it will be called noon at 11:47. So just a reminder to everyone.

Questions

The Speaker: The question period of up to 10 minutes will be held. And questions may be addressed in the following sequence: the first question may be asked by a member from another party; any subsequent questions must follow a rotation between the parties; and each independent member may ask one question. And no question or answer shall exceed 45 seconds.

      The floor is now open for questions.

MLA Jeff Bereza (Portage la Prairie): Thank you to the member from Burrows for his words today.

      My question is, the NDP now claims agri­cul­ture is vital to Manitoba, but when they were last in gov­ern­ment, they imposed a sweeping moratorium on hog barn expansion that choked growth across rural Manitoba.

      Why did they cripple one of the most suc­cess­ful sectors in the agri­cul­ture busi­ness in Manitoba?

      Thank you.

Mr. Diljeet Brar (Burrows): I want to say thank you to my colleague for the wonderful question.

      I would just say this, that the leadership in the pork industry appreciates us. And I would just share this quote from Cam Dahl from Manitoba Pork, and he says: It is crucial that the 22,000 Manitobans who rely on our sector know that the prov­incial government recognizes what they do for our provincial economy, which we saw in the budget an­nounce­ment.

      So that's what I know about the pork industry.

MLA JD Devgan (McPhillips): I want to thank the member for Burrows for bringing forward this reso­lu­tion. I know that he's got extensive ex­per­ience in agri­cul­ture and it's very close to his heart, from his early child­hood to his time in academia and also his time working in the agri­cul­tural industry.

      So I'm hoping, if he could share a little bit with the Chamber as to why he brought this reso­lu­tion forward today?

Mr. Brar: I thank my colleague for the wonderful question.

      The first reason why I brought this reso­lu­tion forward is that I love agri­cul­ture and I love producers.

      Second is that I wanted to create this op­por­tun­ity for all of us to talk about agri­cul­ture and everybody is welcome. And, you know, agri­cul­ture is an im­por­tant subject that people want us to speak about, and our producers and ag industry people want us to talk about agri­cul­ture. And people need to know what their gov­ern­ment, which represents them, is doing in this agri­cul­ture to make it better.

      Thank you.

The Speaker: Order, please.

      I'd just ask the member for Burrows (Mr. Brar), in his previous answer, he quoted some­thing. Was that from a public docu­ment? If not, could he table it?

Mr. Brar: Hon­our­able Speaker, it was a public statement by the leadership from Manitoba Pork.

The Speaker: Thank you.

Mr. Derek Johnson (Interlake-Gimli): Agri­cul­ture Crown land auction remains suspended for beef land, and by beef land, I mean pastures and hay land. This leaves young and expanding producers without means to grow their herds or plan for their future.

      If this gov­ern­ment claims to support rural expansion, why are they blocking the very land base needed by young farmers?

Mr. Brar: We're not blocking anything, actually. We are opening things. We are opening offices that were closed. We're opening Gate–I want to mention this–Gate is Global Agri­cul­ture Tech­no­lo­gy Exchange. We  are investing $13 million to Gate so that we can improve trade along–while working with Cereals Canada.

* (11:10)

      So we are bringing in great things. We are doing good things and we are improving the Crown land file, but it would take some time. We are working with industry, working with the farming com­mu­nities, so that we can make it better because it was broken, previously.

MLA Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): I'd like to thank the member for Burrows for bringing forward this reso­lu­tion, and wish him a very happy birthday here today.

      I was hoping that he could speak a little bit to how agri­cul­ture plays a role in our economy and how it's being affected with the tariffs.

Mr. Brar: Of course, as I said during my preamble, that soil is the basis. That's where every­thing comes from; that's what–where we build things from.

      Agri­cul­ture impacts every­thing. Agri­cul­ture im­pacts our lives. Agri­cul­ture impacts our health. And agri­cul­ture is what we survive on. But recently, we  have been facing barriers, and this is the time when we, as Manitobans and as Canadians, need to come together, brainstorm, strategize and face the challenges so that we can maneuver through these challenging times.

      Thank you.

MLA Devgan: We know that during their time in gov­ern­ment, the Progressive Conservatives left a lot of invest­ment on the table and failed to support Manitoba producers, causing a lot of that invest­ment to leave Manitoba into Saskatchewan and Alberta, and leaving us at a deficit in terms of competition.

      So I'm wondering if the member could expand a little bit more on why the previous gov­ern­ment failed to support Manitoba producers and why, even today, they are no friend to the Manitoban farmer?

Mr. Brar: Like, why the previous gov­ern­ment did some­thing, I can't say why because they did it. So I  think they should stand up and explain why they failed to listen to the farmers, why they failed to invest in farming, and why I, as a critic, was listening to Crown land leaseholders begging for a reply to their email, begging for a phone call to go through and listen to them.

      In some cases, I would say, there were parti­cular cases–I can't mention their names–that they were begging for some instalments because they were not able to pay the 300 per cent more rent on–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Mr. Konrad Narth (La Vérendrye): I'd like to thank the member for Burrows for his genuine passion to this portfolio.

      I'd like to ask the member what he's going to do, or what this reso­lu­tion would spur on the gov­ern­ment to do to regain support by farmers who can still remember a previous NDP gov­ern­ment that had wide-span, sweeping regula­tions that restricted the oper­ation and feasibility of farming in Manitoba?

Mr. Brar: I don't know if the member is talking about 1855 or 1955, but the thing is the times he is referring to here is certainly before when the PCs were in power. So I don't know why they did not raise that issue or address that issue, if there was an issue at all.

      Thank you.

MLA Devgan: Hon­our­able Speaker, King Charles just delivered his Throne Speech, or the gov­ern­ment–the federal gov­ern­ment's Throne Speech. And in it he said, Canada will always remain the true north, strong and free. Certainly, folks on this side of the Chamber believe in that. I don't know if I can say the same for members opposite.

      We know right now is a very challenging time for Manitoba producers and producers across Canada because of the US tariffs.

      So could the member expand a little bit more about what our gov­ern­ment is doing to support Manitoban farmers and the agri­cul­tural industry in our province?

Mr. Brar: I want to say thank you to my colleague for this wonderful question.

      You know, first of all, the best thing we can do during a crisis is listen to each other, and our gov­ern­ment, our Ag Minister, our Minister for Busi­ness, Mining, Trade and Job Creation is listening to farmers, industry leaders, and we are getting together to face this challenge.

      And I think, when I mentioned this Gate program, we are investing millions in this program, and it would be creating jobs, it would be improving busi­ness and it would be bringing more invest­ments in Manitoba by various ag investors–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Mr. Johnson: The NDP falsely claim to support producers during tariffs and obviously it doesn't stand up under scrutiny–$140 million that they reference is not new spending. It's standard risk manage­ment programs administered by MASC for decades.

      Where is there new invest­ment to support farmers?

Mr. Brar: There are no false claims here. I would quote one example: there was a feed shortage during the–when the PCs were in power, and 100-plus farmers gathered in Woodlands. And I went there, Liberals went there, the local MP went there and so many lead­ers, farmers were there.

      The only–the only–voice missing in that meeting was the PCs. Even the MLA whose con­stit­uency that event was being held in was missing. Member–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      And the time for question period has also expired.

Debate

The Speaker: The floor is now open for debate.

      The–

An Honourable Member: You're first.

The Speaker: –hon­our­able member for Portage la Prairie.

MLA Jeff Bereza (Portage la Prairie): Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker–my apologies to the Ag Minister.

      Thank you, again, to the member from Burrows.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, before I get into the details of this reso­lu­tion, I want to start by saying that I've spent 30 years in and around the agri­cul­ture industry. This isn't just politics for me, it's personal.

MLA Carla Compton, Acting Speaker, in the Chair

      I've worked with producers, I've seen the challenges they face and I've lived the cycles of weather, trade, policy and market change that define life on the land. I've watched gov­ern­ments at all levels come and go. I've watched promises being made and money not spent. I've seen good ideas rise, bad ones fall. And, sometimes, nothing at all gets done.

      But I have to say, in all the years, I have never seen a gov­ern­ment so proud of so little. After nearly two years in office, the current NDP gov­ern­ment has not intro­duced a single original program–not one.

      In the ag busi­ness, Manitoba is known for feeding the world. We have to help Manitoban farmers so that they can feed the world.

      Every so-called initiative that this NDP gov­ern­ment point to is either inherited from the Progressive Conservatives or was esta­blished by gov­ern­ments before them. And now they ask this Assembly to stand and applaud for them dusting off old programs and reannouncing old funding and pretending to lead in sectors that demand real, responsive and bold action.

* (11:20)

      Speaker, agri­cul­ture is more than an economic sector. It is the beating heart of rural Manitoba and the pillar of our prov­incial identity. It sustains com­mu­nities, feeds families and supports jobs on farms, in processing plants and along supply chains. In fact, agri­cul­ture accounts for nearly 10 per cent of our Manitoba GDP. We export over $9.4 billion in agrifood products every year, with $4.3 billion of that going to the United States, and $1.4 billion to China. Canola and soy exports to China have exceeded $1 billion.

      This isn't just a rural concern; it's a matter of our prov­incial prosperity. The tariffs from China and the US are real. The money that has been talked about by this gov­ern­ment today will not cover anything but a small portion of that loss. Yet they do not go out and look for new markets.

      So when the NDP claims it's supporting agri­cul­ture, we must ask, what have you actually done? They point to $140 million in so-called tariff support, but  what does that really include: $75 million of it is crop insurance, standard coverage that producers already pay into, another $15 million in AgriInvestagain, a long-standing federal program, not a prov­incial initiative; wildlife compensation accounts for $7 million.

      That leaves just $42 million related to market volatility. And even that it is federally supported and administered through MASC, the minister himself admitted in this House that he doesn't control AgriStability or other mass pro­gram­ming. So how can this gov­ern­ment take credit for anything that they're doing in the agri­cul­ture busi­ness today?

      Speaker, it gets worse. The Minister of Agri­cul­ture (Mr. Kostyshyn) didn't even partici­pate in the gov­ern­ment's trade mission to Washington. With a 10 per cent GDP going for Manitoba, should the Minister of Agri­cul­ture not been at the forefront?

      Despite the United States being our largest agrifood trade partner, the Washington trade office, which the Premier (Mr. Kinew) claimed would reopen, still remains dark. And that same gov­ern­ment that says it wants to expand markets has no visible plan to do so; just recycled talking points and delayed action.

      When the NDP stands and praises them­selves for extending the agri­cul­ture Crown land rent-free, they fail to mention that it was the PC gov­ern­ment that brought in a 50 per cent reduction and a freeze in the first place. It was minister Johnson and the PC caucus who listened to producers–[interjection]–I retract minister Johnson and retract–and replace it with the member from Interlake-Gimli.

      The NDP are merely coasting on that success. Likewise, their so-called support young farmers comes in the form of expanding a rebate program that was created by who? This PC gov­ern­ment. We welcome their decisions to keep a good program going, but let's not pretend that it's new. It's not. It's our PC gov­ern­ment's program.

      Meanwhile, the current gov­ern­ment continues to delay des­per­ately needed reforms to the agri­cul­ture Crown lands leasing system. The NDP promised to fix it, but they froze agri­cul­ture Crown land auctions, depriving producers of the ability to expand their herds and secure pasture. And they still haven't delivered on any meaningful change.

      And let us not forget, hon­our­able Speaker, that it was this NDP that imposed a hog moratorium that decimated invest­ment in Manitoba's hog industry; a moratorium first intro­duced in 2007 in the Red River 'vallety' and later expanded across the province.

      This decision drove producers and investors out of Manitoba. And when the minister sits proudly in this House claiming his gov­ern­ment has brought back services to farmers, what he really means is that they  have re‑opened two MASC offices, but the one in Shoal Lake isn't open after the PC prov­incial gov­ern­ment led a digital modernization of agri­cul­ture services.

      The NDP talks about limiting–[interjection]

The Acting Speaker (Carla Compton): Order.

      I'm having a little bit of trouble hearing the member speak. If we could just be a little bit more mindful of our volume.

      Thank you.

MLA Bereza: The MASC offices were opened because they said it took a long time and quite a distance that the farmers had to travel to a MASC office.

      What about the 28,000 people waiting for an MRI that are travelling up to 800 kilometres?

      This is no way that moves forward with opening offices. Hon­our­able Speaker, let's talk–let's call this reso­lu­tion what it is: it's a political prop designed to mask a lack and no vision.

      The NDP gov­ern­ment has not brought forward a single new program that wasn't already in place. They haven't advanced a new strategy, opened a new market or created meaningful policy, but they have gone to the state fair with one of the governors of the US.

      They're out of ideas, out of credibility and, frankly, out of touch. Manitoba agri­cul­ture sector deserves more than recycled press releases and empty praise. It deserves real leadership, real support and real results.

      And that's what the Progressive Conservative team, past and present, has delivered and will continue to deliver.

      Thank you, hon­our­able–

Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh.

Hon. Ron Kostyshyn (Minister of Agriculture): Let me first off start by thanking MLA from Burrows for intro­ducing this reso­lu­tion.

      Hon­our­able Speaker–deputy Speaker, it's really ironic to sit back and listen to a wannabe Agri­cul­ture minister, if I may say this.

      And the fact is that I come on this position of 40 years of ex­per­ience working with the cattle industry, the mixed grain operation, and I have the op­por­tun­ity to talk about past experiences–[interjection]

The Acting Speaker (Carla Compton): The hon­our­able Op­posi­tion House Leader, on a point of order.

Point of Order

Mr. Derek Johnson (Official Opposition House Leader): Yes, the member is using derogatory terms as referencing to members in the House. I think it's  our  long practice of recog­nizing them as their con­stit­uency or their portfolio, and I would ask that the Agricul­ture Minister would retract his statements and apologize.

The Acting Speaker (Carla Compton): I'm just going to consult for a moment, please.

* (11:30)

      Okay, a point of–

An Honourable Member: I would speak to the point of order.

The Acting Speaker (Carla Compton): Okay.

      The member from Waverley, on the point of order.

MLA David Pankratz (Deputy Government House Leader): I ap­pre­ciate the member opposite bringing forward this non‑point of order regarding the way that we speak to each other in the Chamber.

      It's always im­por­tant that we show respect to one another, obviously. That is an im­por­tant part of the job that we do here.

      This, once again, feels like one of those moments where we have a bully that is calling names on the other side and then hides their hand as soon as somebody looks. And so, I would just say again that I  hope that we can all treat each other respectfully, as always, you know, and that we can work on–this is not a point of order, obviously. This seems like a stalling technique from the member opposite.

The Acting Speaker (Carla Compton): So this is a point of order, but a caution is being issued to the minister, and a good reminder to everyone in the Chamber that we do refer to each other by our con­stit­uencies and/or our portfolios.

Introduction of Guests

The Acting Speaker (Carla Compton): And while the clock is stopped, I do want to acknowledge we have some guests in the gallery.

      So, we have seated in the public gallery from École Pointe-des-Chênes, 10 grade 11 students under the direction of Michelle Gauthier. This group is located in the con­stit­uency of the hon­our­able member for Dawson Trail (MLA Lagassé).

* * *

Mr. Kostyshyn: Well, let me just finish off. And my last comment is that I'm very proud to have been involved in agri­cul­ture for 40 years of my life. And I  know members opposite have different opinions about how im­por­tant agri­cul­ture is, but I've lived it. I  went through the BSE scenario. I've gone through the importance of what agri­cul­ture producers face every day of their occupation.

      And let's just take for an example, this year alone, the cost for agri­cul­ture producers to put a crop in continues to grow and the expenses and the challenges that they–to put it simplified, we–the producers do every­thing right. But at the end of the day, but it all depends on Mother Nature to make them rewarding of the op­por­tun­ities.

      I hear the MLA for Portage has opinions of crop insurance, of the busi­ness risk insurance programs that exist in this province. And I question his credibility of MASC crop insurance op­por­tun­ities that provide.

      Let me share some infor­ma­tion that's very vital for all of us across Canada to know. Manitoba is probably one of the highest numbers of agri­cul­ture producers that take advantage of the busi­ness risk insurance programs that exist, parti­cularly in crop insurance op­por­tun­ities.

      So I question the some­what challenging questions that the member opposite, from–MLA from Portage–is questioning; we're not doing enough. We are doing whatever it takes to have a program and part­ner­ship with the federal gov­ern­ment, of opportunity to help producers that have some form of busi­ness risk insur­ance program in challenges times, in challenging years.

      And I want to, also–

An Honourable Member: On a point of order.

Point of Order

The Acting Speaker (Carla Compton): The Op­posi­tion House Leader, on a point of order.

Mr. Derek Johnson (Official Opposition House Leader): You just cautioned the member to refer to somebody as a con­stit­uency. The MLA for Portage is not a con­stit­uency; it is the MLA for Portage la Prairie that he proudly represents. And if we could please clarify the record and change our language in respect to each others' position inside this building.

The Acting Speaker (Carla Compton): Order, please.

      So this is a point of order, but I just want to encourage folks again: let's just refer to each other with the full con­stit­uency titles and the full portfolio titles.

      Thank you.

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Mr. Kostyshyn: My apologies for not making it Portage la Prairie–MLA for Portage la Prairie.

      What is so key about agri­cul­ture–it's the lifeblood of future invest­ments that we see in this province. And we continue to travel our areas and I know members opposite, MLA for Portage la Prairie, had indicated that the fact that we made travels to the US side and I  think–I would question the commentary that was made by the MLA for Portage la Prairie about the fact that I was down at Minnesota and I attended the Minnesota State Fair and that's all I did.

      Well, you know what? I would take offence if I  was–the individual that I was actually with was the commissioner of agri­cul­ture. And he'd be very proud to spend the whole day going throughout the whole Minnesota State Fair, and the con­ver­sa­tions we had with a number of producers whether they were in the small side of the dairy industry or a small animal industry. But yet the MLA for Portage la Prairie really took a criticism to the point of encouraging me that I was just wasting time being there.

      Well, let me share some more infor­ma­tion with the member opposite about the fact–I'll let the com­mis­sioner from the state of Minnesota know his exact words and I wonder if he'll be pro­fes­sional enough to almost accept that as a negativity commentary.

      I also want to talk about the fact–we were down in Iowa, and the importance of trade relationships and  maybe one of the stemming comments about this is the Manitoba hog producers or Manitoba pork industry; Cam Dahl thanked me personally and this gov­ern­ment personally for going down and talking to the agri­cul­ture pork industry in Iowa.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, 3 million weanlings leave this province on an annual basis for the benefit of the Iowa pork producers, and yet, there is always criticism that we're not doing enough. The sad reality is that you have a critic that almost feels that he could be doing better. Well, I'm not going to complain about that what­so­ever.

      You know, when we talk about the fact that we are challenged with tariffs, and in his commentary yesterday, the MLA for Portage la Prairie have no–and what is so troubling is the fact that–all talk, but cuts. All members opposite, all they do is talk but have no credibility on this.

* (11:40)

      When Donald Trump was last President, Pallister gov­ern­ment made a cut to the Manitoba trade represen­tative in Washington. Yesterday's commen­tary by the MLA for Portage was criticizing the NDP because they have no repre­sen­tatives in various parts of the  world, but yet during the Pallister reign, they dis­missed the Washington repre­sen­tative. It took this gov­ern­ment, it took our leader, our Premier (Mr. Kinew) to reinstate a repre­sen­tative in Washington.

      And let me tell you, it was done in a pro­fes­sional manner where we included repre­sen­tatives from the Manitoba beef industry, we included repre­sen­tatives from the pork industry, we've included a number of commodity groups that we come in–we are dealing as one commodity group organi­zation, repre­sen­ting the economic growth of this province of Manitoba for the betterment of agri­cul­ture.

      Yet members opposite–the MLA for Portage la Prairie–doesn't think that was a good idea. Well, I'm going to say this: I don't think it was a good idea that Mr. Pallister chose to dismiss the Washington repre­sen­tative who was our Manitoba–so maybe he is the one that maybe has some better ideas than anybody else.

      Let me talk about–my favourite subject is Crown lands, hon­our­able deputy Speaker. Let's put this into perspective. When the fact that when you have 250 producers show up in Ste. Rose, Manitoba, because that gov­ern­ment chose to put a 300 per cent increase in Crown land rates in one year, and then you turned around during the time what the producers were in a drought situation and they've took no exception and didn't even have the Ag minister at that time stay around for that meeting. All they did is sent their Crown land repre­sen­tatives with shields to protect them­selves, because when you're dealing with 250 producers in the hall and run away from the situation, I question the MLA for Portage la Prairie: Would you have stood behind that decision back then in–

The Acting Speaker (Carla Compton): Order, please.

      I'd just like to remind the hon­our­able minister, please direct your comments through the Chair and not directly to any members within the Chamber.

      Thank you.

Mr. Kostyshyn: My apologies.

      But the sad reality in the completion of what was done back then, it chased away the young individual producers that had a dream of taking over the family farm because they chose, for the benefit of their way of thinking, for the betterment of generational farming operations, and it continues to cascade of the benefit of agri­cul­ture producers and the beef industry today.

      It didn't much matter whether they did a 50 per cent cut in the agri­cul­ture Crown land rates. Guess why? Because it was the election year. Let's fool the cattle producers. Let's fool the people in the Crown lands. We'll give them a 50 per cent discount and then we get re‑elected, hopefully, and we're going to put it back up.

      I question: Why was the Crown lands op­por­tun­ity to save family farms to this day? And I can assure you, people don't forget.

Mr. Derek Johnson (Interlake-Gimli): Keep going? [interjection] Okay.

      I think this reso­lu­tion is missing a word or two–or, I think three, actually. So I'm going to reread the  reso­lu­tion as it should be printed: Therefore be resolved that the Legis­lative Assembly be urged to recog­nize and applaud the previous prov­incial govern­ment–PC, Conservative gov­ern­ment–for its suc­cess­ful efforts in supporting and growing the agri­cul­ture industry in Manitoba.

      The member has mentioned a few different things, and I know my time will be short here as we only have a few moments left, but there's a few things that I want to get on the record before they bring this reso­lu­tion back and I continue to speak on it. The current Agri­cul­ture Minister and the member for the–Burrows is well aware that this PC gov­ern­ment responded to drought con­di­tions with $155 million in emergency support, plus reduced Crown lands–cut them in half to a 50 per cent rate.

      Now, I think–this is simple history here that I'm going into now, and it's the cow‑calf herd in the province of Manitoba. Well, under the previous NDP gov­ern­ment–I'm talking the last cycle they were here–went from one–the beef herd went from 1.735 million to 1.105 million. That's a reduction of 630,000 head while the NDP gov­ern­ment was in power last time.

      So now, if that happens again with this NDP govern­ment and their war on agri­cul­ture, we will be left with 355,000 head in this province if we have the same decrease that they had the last time they were in gov­ern­ment.

      Now, what's im­por­tant to rural Manitobans and farmers is access to emergency rooms as well. This gov­ern­ment, when they were last in power, cut 20  rural emergency rooms. Now, our farmers need these emergency rooms. It's very im­por­tant to ensure that they have access to rural health care. It is im­por­tant to know and I'm sure we all recog­nize that farmers have a very high rate of–

The Acting Speaker (Carla Compton): When this matter is again before the House, the member will have seven minutes remaining.

      And the hour being noon, this House is recessed until 1:30 this afternoon.



LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA

Tuesday, May 27, 2025

CONTENTS


Vol. 60a

ORDERS OF THE DAY

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

Second Readings–Public Bills

Bill 234–The Pride Month Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended)

Blashko  2403

Questions

Perchotte  2405

Blashko  2405

Naylor 2405

Balcaen  2406

Debate

Perchotte  2407

Fontaine  2408

Asagwara  2409

Resolutions

Res. 18–Supporting the Agricultural Industry in Manitoba

Brar 2411

Questions

Bereza  2413

Brar 2413

Devgan  2414

Johnson  2414

Lamoureux  2414

Narth  2415

Debate

Bereza  2415

Kostyshyn  2417

Johnson  2419