LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA

Thursday, November 20, 2025


The House met at 1:30 p.m.

The Speaker: O Eternal and Almighty God, from Whom all power and wisdom come, we are assembled here before Thee to frame such laws as may tend to the welfare and prosperity of our province. Grant, O merciful God, we pray Thee, that we may desire only that which is in accordance with Thy will, that we may seek it with wisdom, know it with certainty and accomplish it perfectly for the glory and honour of Thy name and for the welfare of all our people. Amen.

      We acknowledge that we are gathered on Treaty 1 territory and that Manitoba is located on the treaty territories and ancestral lands of the Anishinaabeg, Anishininewuk, Dakota Oyate, Denesuline and Nehethowuk nations. We acknowledge Manitoba is located on the Homeland of the Red River Métis. We acknowledge northern Manitoba includes lands that were and are the ancestral lands of the Inuit. We respect the spirit and intent of treaties and treaty making and remain committed to working in partnership with First Nations, Inuit and Métis people in the spirit of truth, reconciliation and collaboration.

      Please be seated.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Introduction of Bills

Bill 2–The Non-Consensual Dis­tri­bu­tion of Intimate Images Amendment Act

Hon. Matt Wiebe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General): I move, seconded by the Minister of Edu­ca­tion and Early Child­hood Learning (MLA Schmidt), that Bill 2, The Non‑Consensual Dis­tri­bu­tion of Intimate Images Amend­ment Act, be now read for a first time.

Motion presented.

Mr. Wiebe: I'm pleased to rise in the House today to intro­duce Bill 2, The Non‑Consensual Dis­tri­bu­tion of Intimate Images Amend­ment Act. This bill will address the legis­lative changes that were recom­mended in the report following the com­pre­hen­sive five-year review of the act, as Manitoba continues to demon­strate leader­ship by strengthening the non-consensual dis­tri­bu­tion of images act.

      The bill will better protect persons who have had their intimate images distributed without their consent or who fear that their intimate images are about to be distributed. The amend­ments will strengthen the act by promoting the pro­tec­tion of women, girls and those most vul­ner­able in our society by supporting key initiatives in the Manitoba Safer Neighbourhoods, Safer Downtowns public safety strategy, as well as the  Mino'Ayaawag Ikwewag strategy and Canada's framework–pardon me–to address gender‑based violence.

      I'm pleased to present this bill to the House for its con­sid­era­tion.

The Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the amend­ment? [Agreed]

      The motion is accordingly passed.

Bill 210–The Criminal Trespassers Act and Amendments to The Occupiers' Liability Act

Mr. Derek Johnson (Interlake-Gimli): I move, seconded by the member for Borderland (Mr. Guenter), that Bill 210, The Criminal Trespassers Act and Amend­ments to The Occupiers' Liability Act, be now read a first time.

Motion presented.

Mr. Johnson: This act will make changes to the law governing civil claims for damages made by criminal trespassers against occupiers of premises. It aims to protect property occupiers from civil liability for injuries or death of individuals ages 12 and older who trespass with the intent of committing a crime.

      Occupiers will be held liable for their actions that are wilfully or grossly dis­propor­tion­ate; i.e., so you cannot have any booby traps on your property. The act also amends The Limitations Act to pause the limita­tion period for claims against occupiers until any related criminal charges are resolved.

      Other provinces have imple­mented similar measures to protect property owners from liability involv­ing criminal trespassing. Hon­our­able Speaker, this bill balances the rights of property owners while pre­vent­ing and denouncing vigilantism and acts on the innocent.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

The Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed]

      The motion is accordingly passed.

Bill 215–The Wildlife Amendment Act

Mr. Rick Wowchuk (Swan River): I move, seconded by the member for Riding Mountain (Mr. Nesbitt), that Bill 215, The Wildlife Amend­ment Act, be now read for a first time.

Motion presented.

Mr. Wowchuk: Hon­our­able Speaker, I rise today as a proud hunter and conservationist to introduce a bill that targets those who break the law and threaten Manitoba's protected wildlife species.

      Bill 215 proposes to increase statutory fines for the illegal killing of protected species in our province. Strengthening these penal­ties will send a clear message to poachers that we take the con­ser­va­tion of our wildlife seriously in Manitoba. It will also bring our penal­ties in line with those in other western provinces.

      I urge my colleagues to support this bill and join me in educating Manitobans about respon­si­ble hunt­ing practices and protecting the wildlife we hold dear to our heritage and our shared way of life.

      Thank you.

The Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed]

      The motion is accordingly passed.

      Com­mit­tee reports? Tabling of reports?

Ministerial Statements

Restorative Justice Week

Hon. Matt Wiebe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General): As Minister of Justice and Attorney General for the province of Manitoba, I am proud to proclaim the week of November 16th to the 22nd, 2025, as Restorative Justice Week in our province.

      Restorative justice is a vital part of our justice system and a vital part of the work that we do in co‑operation with our com­mu­nity partners. Restorative justice recognizes that crime affects individuals, it affects families and it affects whole com­mu­nities and that there are often more effective ways to address these matters.

      Restorative justice is not only a more col­lab­o­rative approach, but also a more impactful approach in which individuals are held to account for their actions. As a result, those who get through a restorative justice program are much less likely to reoffend than those who go through the mainstream justice system, and we know that their cases are pro­cessed faster.

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      This year marks a sig­ni­fi­cant milestone for our province. This is, in fact, the 10th anniversary of The Restorative Justice Act, a groundbreaking piece of legis­lation that positioned Manitoba then as a national leader in restorative justice.

      Over the past decade, we've witnessed tremendous growth and an enhanced col­lab­o­ration as well as the transformative impact of restorative justice practices in communities across this great province.

      While there is still work to be done to expand the scope and capacity of our restorative justice system, we can be proud of the meaningful change that it has brought to our communities.

      The theme for this year's Restorative Justice Week–Inspiring Collaboration: Igniting Social Change–reflects our ongoing commitment to building those key partnerships that support reconciliation and reduce repeat offending.

      During this week, I encourage all Manitobans to take part in the events and con­ver­sa­tions that are happening across our province and to recognize the dedicated individuals and organizations who continue to advance restorative justice across our province.

      It's together that we can build safer com­mu­nities all across our province.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

Mr. Wayne Balcaen (Brandon West): Today I rise to recognize Restorative Justice Week.

      This year's theme invites us to reflect on the work that has brought us to this moment, and to recommit ourselves to building a justice system rooted not in fear and punishment, but healing, accountability and community.

      Our province holds the stories of generations, stories of conflict, of resilience and of renewal. We are reminded that justice cannot be understood only through courtrooms and sentences, but justice must live in our relationships, our communities and our shared responsibilities to one another.

      Honourable Speaker, restorative justice teaches us that harm is not just a legal matter, but it's a human matter. When harm occurs, it ripples through families, through communities and through the lives of both victims and those who cause the harm. It asks us to listen to those who have been wounded and to support those who may–who must take responsibility. It asks us to repair, to rebuild and to restore.

      In Manitoba, the importance of this approach is very clear. As we raise awareness about practices that seek to mend what has been broken rather than simply punish what has been done, it encourages Manitobans to learn, to engage and to support methods that build a safer, more compassionate and friendly Manitoba.

      Restorative justice is not a soft alter­na­tive; it's a courageous one that centres on the voices of the victims, people and the com­mu­nities, and most importantly one that urges our government to truly listen to Manitobans by holding people accountable in mean­ing­ful ways, and also create space for transformation, actions, trans­par­ency and not just penalties and statistics.

      We also recognize the work and efforts of indiv­id­uals, com­mu­nity‑based organizations, police services and various others like Restorative Justice Associa­tion of Manitoba in promoting peace and justice.

      Restorative justice may not be appropriate in every circum­stance, but where it is appropriate it can be beneficial to the communities, to the victims, the transgressors and society as a whole.

      May we move forward not only with recognition, but with responsibility to protect, to listen, to support and to shape a future where every person is valued, where harm is addressed with honesty and humanity and where healing is always possible.

      Thank you.

Members' Statements

Russell Cook Memorial Singers

Ms. Amanda Lathlin (The Pas-Kameesak): Today I rise to honour a truly extraordinary group whose music and compassion have supported families across Manitoba for more than two decades: the Russell Cook Memorial Singers.

      This group has travelled from community to com­mu­nity: Opaskwayak Cree Nation, Moose Lake, Easterville, Cross Lake, Grand Rapids and even into Saskatchewan, answering calls for help during some of life's most difficult times.

      Whenever there is a family grieving, they show up, offering comfort through the power of song. Music has a way of connecting us to one another, and even to loved ones who have passed on. And the Russell Cook Memorial Singers embody that truth with every gathering they attend.

      At the heart of this min­is­try: Michael Jabb Jr., Norman Cook Sr., Don Melnyk, Howard Constant and Lisa McCorrister. These dedicated individuals carry forward the legacy of the Russell–of Russell Cook through their voices, their presence and their deep commitment to the community.

      Anyone who has walked into a church hall late at night during a wake and heard their hymns knows the comfort they bring. Their music fill the room with strength, warmth and a sense of togetherness at a time when family need it the most.

      Their blend of traditional and contemporary music honours the cultural practices of the Indigenous com­munities they serve and help provide healing in moments of profound loss.

      The Russell Cook Memorial Singers are more than just musicians; they are caretakers of culture, community and compassion. Their work strengthens bonds, preserves tradition and reminds families that they are not alone.

      I ask all members of this House to join me in recognizing and thanking the Russell Cook Memorial Singers for their years of service, their compassion and their continued commitment to lifting up com­munities across Manitoba.

      Ekosi.

Decor Cabinets and Elias Woodwork

Mrs. Carrie Hiebert (Morden-Winkler): Hon­our­able Speaker, I'm honoured to high­light two manu­facturers that make a big impact in my com­mu­nity of Morden‑Winkler.

      In woodworking, strength comes from the wood grain, and the same is true of the communities built around it.

      Decor Cabinets has been a pillar of Morden since 1977, growing under Stan Pauls from a small shop into two production facilities and a showroom. With over 500 employees, Decor fosters a work­place grounded in respect and opportunity and has raised over $1.7 million for local non‑profit groups with their charity classic.

      Elias Woodwork, by Ralph Fehr, operates in Morden‑Winkler, producing high‑quality wood products for Canada and the U.S. Their 400,000‑square‑foot facility supports 470 employees and demonstrates deep community roots.

      Together, Decor Cabinets and Elias Woodwork do more than shape wood; they shape op­por­tun­ities, support families and strengthen our com­mu­nity and our economy.

      As we celebrate these successes, we must also confront challenges in Manitoba's manufacturing sector, especially woodworking manufacturing. Rising tariffs and global uncertainty threaten these busi­nesses. They need our support.

      I challenge the NDP government to stand up for the–our manufacturers and the manufacturers of my community. The Premier (Mr. Kinew) must take this seriously because the stakes are high. Many manu­facturers are not sleeping at night. They worry about keeping their doors open. They worry about their employees and their families amid tariff instability.

      We must do better. The NDP gov­ern­ment must do better. Our busi­nesses, manufacturers, workers and communities are counting on it.

      Please join me in thanking the Manitoba manu­facturers and busi­nesses' owners that are watching here online today.

      Thank you for your dedication to your community, businesses and contributing to our economy.

      Thank you.

Snow Angel Program

Hon. Nellie Kennedy (Minister of Sport, Culture, Heritage and Tourism): Today I rise in recognition of National Addictions Awareness Week, to praise the Bruce Oake Recovery Centre and their remarkable Snow Angel program–a gesture of service that warms hearts, even on the coldest days in Winnipeg.

      The Bruce Oake Recovery Centre was founded in memory of Bruce Oake, offering a 16‑week residen­tial program rooted in person‑centred care, evidence‑based therapies and community connection.

      Their mission is simple yet profound: to help individuals reclaim their lives and return to their families and communities with purpose and hope. Every participant is there by choice and carries a commitment to change, with the belief that healing is sustained by the bonds we build together.

      That philosophy shines through the Snow Angel program. Each winter, Bruce Oake participants volun­teer to shovel snow for elderly neighbors and those with mobility challenges–quietly, and without expect­a­tion of recognition.

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      When homeowners aren't home, they leave a small flyer about recovery supports, turning a simple act of kindness into a lifeline of hope. For those who are home, gratitude often comes in the form of hot chocolate and cookies, and even more so through honest conversations around what it means to heal and what we owe to each other.

      Honourable Speaker, imagine what it means to wake up each day determined to rebuild your life. These volunteers have walked through hardship, faced moments when hope felt distant and still choose to give back. Each day they step out into the cold with shovels in hand, ready to spend time with the community and build bonds of trust that grow into a source of shared strength for everyone. Every cleared driveway is a path toward community, compassion and second chances.

      I ask my colleagues to join me in applauding the Bruce Oake Recovery Centre and their snow angels for reminding us that even in winter, warmth is something we can create together.

Holiday Events in Lac du Bonnet

Mr. Wayne Ewasko (Lac du Bonnet): Hon­our­able Speaker, in the Lac du Bonnet con­stit­uency, this year shines bright with some of the exciting events that allow everyone to celebrate and enjoy the upcoming season. The holiday season is a time for joy and connection, and local craft sales are perfect for cele­brating this spirit.

      The Christmas craft sale in Beausejour on November 7 and 8 offered unique handmade gifts from beautiful decorations to tasty treats, supporting local artisans. Following this, the Lac du Bonnet craft sale on November 15 continued the celebration, featuring one‑of‑a‑kind treasures that carry special meaning. These are wonderful op­por­tun­ities to find those unique gifts and embrace the festive spirit.

      On November 21, tomorrow, Christmas on Park in Beausejour will transform the streets into a winter wonderland. With festive lights, cheerful music and activities for families, this event creates an inviting atmosphere. Delicious food and fun games bring neigh­bours together, fostering com­mu­nity spirit and creating cherished memories.

      Of course, Hon­our­able Speaker, once again the CP holiday train stops in Whitemouth on December 3, and the Whitemouth Lions Club and the local fire­fighters help to make it a memorable stop on the circuit yet once again.

      Finally, Hon­our­able Speaker, the CPTC races–the Canadian Power Toboggan Cham­pion­ships–from December 12 to 14 in Beausejour add excitement to the holiday season. Racing enthusiasts and families can enjoy the thrill of the races together; hopefully we get a little bit of snow. The lively atmosphere creates a unique op­por­tun­ity to ex­per­ience the festive season in a memorable way.

      The Lac du Bonnet con­stit­uency offers a wealth of events which will make the Christmas and holiday season truly unforgettable.

      I ask my colleagues to stand up and thank those volunteers who are watching today.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Kirkfield Park. [interjection]

      Oh–the hon­our­able member for Lac du Bonnet?

Mr. Ewasko: I just ask that the names of some of the many volunteers are recorded into Hansard.

      Thank you.

Christmas on Park: Mallory Black, Kaitlen Cunningham, Kimberley Friesen, Jan Leclerc, Megan Leochko, Debbie Majeau, Jess Timmerman, Lucy Wong.

CPTC: President Jared Black.

Kids Snowflake Bazaar: Mellissa Bourgeois.

Lac du Bonnet Recreation: Bianca Tetrault.

Transgender Day of Remembrance

Mr. Logan Oxenham (Kirkfield Park): Today is Transgender Day of Remembrance, a solemn day to honour the lives of transgender and gender‑diverse people lost to violence, discrimination and despair. Each year, we remember not only those taken from us but also the systemic conditions that make our com­munity unsafe.

      Across Canada, trans people continue to face targeted political attacks. In Alberta, Premier Danielle Smith's government has invoked the notwithstanding clause to advance the most horrific and harmful legis­lation that would ban gender‑affirming health care for trans youth.

      These testaments–these treatments are recognized by the Canadian Paediatric Society and the World Professional Association for Transgender Health as medically necessary and life‑saving.

      Research from The Trevor Project found that the introduction of anti-trans legislation is associated with a 72 per cent increase in suicidal ideation amongst trans youth. Denying access to affirming care is not a policy disagreement; it is a matter of life and death.

      Here in Manitoba we have chosen a different path. Our government affirms the dignity, safety and equality of transgender people. We recognize that every child deserves to grow up knowing that they are valued, that they are protected, not legislated out of existence.

      Today, I call on every political leader in this prov­ince and country to take a stand; condemn the abuse of the notwithstanding clause to strip away Charter rights. We have to defend the right of every trans­gender person–especially every transgender child–to live, to thrive and to be free.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

Introduction of Guests

The Speaker: Prior to oral questions, there's some guests in the gallery I'd like to intro­duce.

      I'd like to draw the attention of all hon­our­able members to the public gallery, where we have with us today Erica Fritzsche, Nathalie Juhnke, who are guests of the hon­our­able Minister of Sport, Culture, Heritage and Tourism (MLA Kennedy).

      And on behalf of all members, we welcome you here today.

      Further, I'd like to draw the attention of all hon­our­able members to the public gallery, where we have with us today Namandeep Kaur Dhaliwal, who is the guest of the hon­our­able member for Burrows (Mr. Brar).

      And we welcome you here today.

Oral Questions

Safe Con­sump­tion Site Location
Point Douglas Com­mu­nity Consultations

Mr. Obby Khan (Leader of the Official Opposition): This Premier (Mr. Kinew) simply doesn't get it. He asked residents of Point Douglas to accept a drug injection site in their com­mu­nity but he won't tell them where it is.

      The mayor of Winnipeg has said, and I quote: Public con­sul­ta­tion would be very, very im­por­tant here, to hear from residents and busi­ness owners as their thoughts related to the potential impact on the area. End quote.

      Will the Premier (Mr. Kinew) listen to the mayor? Will he listen to the residents of Point Douglas? Will he listen to Manitobans and let them have their say on a drug con­sump­tion site this Premier and NDP gov­ern­ment is forcing into downtown Winnipeg?

Hon. Uzoma Asagwara (Deputy Premier): Hon­our­able Speaker, I just want to–through the Chair, of course–acknowledge that we have some guests in the gallery who are here to recog­nize Trans Day of Remembrance, which is a really sig­ni­fi­cant day.

      And you'll note, Hon­our­able Speaker, that we all stood up in this House: stood up on our feet and applauded members' statements, ministerials. But the only time the members opposite refused to stand up and acknowledge guests in the gallery was in response to our member for Kirkfield Park's (Mr. Oxenham) comments on Trans Day of Remembrance.

      Now, Hon­our­able Speaker, I don't know about you, but on this side of the House, we think that that sickening, disheartening display is shameful and has no place in this province–certainly not in this Chamber.

The Speaker: Time has expired.

      The hon­our­able Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Khan: Hon­our­able Speaker, what's sickening is that this Premier won't even stand up and tell the resi­dents of Point Douglas where and why–[interjection]

The Speaker: Order.

Mr. Khan: –he's forcing a drug con­sump­tion site into downtown Winnipeg.

      The Premier and his entire NDP caucus, including MLAs from Waverley, Tuxedo, McPhillips, Transcona, Radisson, Lagimodière, Fort Richmond, Kirkfield Park, Assiniboia and every NDP member on that side of the House supports a drug con­sump­tion site in their–no, in your neighbourhood. They support a drug consumption site in your neighbourhood without you having any input. [interjection]

The Speaker: Order.

Mr. Khan: On this side of the House, we think that's wrong.

      Will the Premier stand up today and tell Manitobans where this drug con­sump­tion site is going and when it's going to open?

MLA Asagwara: Hon­our­able Speaker, our Minister for Housing, Addictions and Homelessness has done extensive con­sul­ta­tion, extensive outreach in com­mu­nities, and will continue to consult with communities on this parti­cular matter: the supervised con­sump­tion site.

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      But I do want to recog­nize here, Hon­our­able Speaker, that yesterday, the Leader of the Op­posi­tion asked a similar question, but later he admitted to media in a scrum that he doesn't have a clue what is–he's even talking about.

      He–and this is a direct quote–stated that he'd have to go back and look at Hansard, if I said that. That was a misstep there, Hon­our­able Speaker, in reference to the language he chooses to use when talking about a supervised con­sump­tion site, language he continues to use in the Chamber today. Because not only does he not actually respect trans people, he doesn't respect–

The Speaker: Member's time is expired.

      The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Khan: Hon­our­able Speaker, the answer to that is simple. I don't respect members on that side of the House who think it's okay to provide and force–and provide a safe or a drug or a harm injection site to Manitobans. [interjection]

The Speaker: Order.

Mr. Khan: Members on that side of the House believe it's okay to provide a drug con­sump­tion site in your neighbourhood.

      Residents of Point Douglas have clearly said they don't want it, and I quote: We're begin­ning to feel like a drug rehab drunking–dumping ground around here. End quote. That's residents.

      Is the Minister of Addictions listening to that? Is the Premier listening to that? No. They refuse. This Premier refuses to listen to Manitobans.

      So I'll ask again: Will the Premier allow Manitobans to have their say about him forcing a drug con­sump­tion site into your neighbourhood?

MLA Asagwara: Hon­our­able Speaker, on this side of the House, we care about marginalized Manitobans.

      We care about com­mu­nities that need services and resources delivered in a com­pas­sion­ate and evidence‑based way. And, of course, we're going to consult com­mu­nity, we're going to consult and work with the experts, and we're going to make sure that if you're struggling with addictions in this province, we esta­blish the services that are going to save your life and ensure that you get the quality of care you deserve–primary care–where and when you need it.

      Unlike members opposite. They don't care about trans people. They don't care about trans kids. They don't care about people struggling with addic­tions. That behaviour was pre the last election and it continues post the last election. They've learned nothing on that side of the House.

      On this side, we stand with Manitobans–all Manitobans.

The Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a new question.

Economic Dev­elop­ment Plan for Manitoba
Creation of Crown‑Indigenous Corporation

Mr. Obby Khan (Leader of the Official Opposition): Hon­our­able Speaker, every Manitoban would agree that, if you care for someone, you would not be giving them drugs. But this NDP thinks it's okay to give your loved one drugs, to provide a safe con­sump­tion site–a drug con­sump­tion site–for your loved ones in your neighbourhood.

      Under this NDP, Manitoba's economy is dead last. Yet in the Throne Speech, the Premier (Mr. Kinew) didn't mention one thing–one tangible, concrete thing–that will move Manitoba's economy forward. Years of feasibility studies await the Port of Churchill. It's not an imme­diate fix for the economic challenges faced under this failing NDP gov­ern­ment.

      Manitoba needs economic growth today.

      So why is the Premier delaying the process and projects in Manitoba by creating another Crown cor­por­ation where there's already too much red tape and artificial hurdles created by this NDP gov­ern­ment?

Hon. Uzoma Asagwara (Deputy Premier): I just want to be really clear about what the member opposite, the Leader of the Op­posi­tion, is asking, or questioning, or  making very clear he doesn't support a Crown‑Indigenous cor­por­ation.

      The member opposite–every member on that House and the Leader of the Op­posi­tion–peddle in one thing, and they do it pretty badly, and that is division. They are focused on division. They are focused on hateful rhetoric. They are focused on not lifting up all Manitobans.

      We will not take any notes from that member. This is embar­rass­ing behaviour on his part. We stand for all Manitobans and we will continue to do that economically, health-care-wise for all of our com­mu­nities.

The Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a supplementary question.

Energy-Intensive Industries
Hydro's Energy Capacity

Mr. Obby Khan (Leader of the Official Opposition): Maybe they should go back to school and start taking notes, because a D- for the Minister of Finance (MLA Sala) is not a passing grade.

      It's not just delays; it's the complete lack of plan by this NDP gov­ern­ment. Manitoba Hydro has said there's not enough capacity for energy for intensive industries to set up shop in Manitoba.

      The Premier, however, fired the CEO of Manitoba Hydro for disagreeing with her. She said there's not enough energy in this province. The Premier said, and I quote: There's tons of megawatts. And now he says there's not enough energy.

      Will the Premier admit that he was wrong to fire Jay Grewal, the former CEO of Hydro? Will you admit that he was wrong when it came to energy capacity in this province, and will he admit that he is wrong to not sign on to pipelines and energy corridors with Alberta, Saskatchewan and Ontario to grow Manitoba's economy today?

Hon. Uzoma Asagwara (Deputy Premier): Hon­our­able Speaker, I just want to acknowledge that our Minister of Finance is doing a phenomenal job–a phenomenal job.

      The Minister of Finance is working hard to make sure that we're bringing 750 megawatts, new energy, here in Manitoba, in the Brandon area. Our Minister of Finance is working with experts locally to make sure that we are moving our economy in the right direction, not for now but for gen­era­tions, in addition to that, to come.

      The Leader of the Op­posi­tion better say it with his whole chest: Does he support economic recon­ciliation or not? Because his first question would suggest he doesn't. His first question would suggest he's dividing Manitobans. His first question would suggest he doesn't get where Manitobans are, nor where they want to go. They want to go to a united future–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The hon­our­able Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Manitoba's Economy
Gov­ern­ment Record

Mr. Obby Khan (Leader of the Official Opposition): Manitobans heard it right there: this Deputy Premier thinks a D- is phenomenal grade for their failing Finance Minister. It explains why Manitoba's economy is dead last in Canada under this failing NDP gov­ern­ment.

      This Premier (Mr. Kinew) has no plan to grow our economy. This Premier makes reckless remarks and never apologizes to those he attacks or admits when he's wrong.

      Will the Premier finally show some leadership and say he was wrong and apologize to Manitobans?

      Health care is worse under this NDP gov­ern­ment, taxes are up, crime is up, drug use is up, homelessness is up, but our economy is ranked dead last under this NDP. It's time for the Premier to come clean, stand up, show some humility and apologize to Manitobans for being the complete and utter failure of a leader and a premier that he is.

Hon. Uzoma Asagwara (Deputy Premier): Hon­our­able Speaker, our government, led by the most popular premier in this country, is working very, very hard to make sure that we not only repair the damage done to our economy, to health care, by the previous gov­ern­ment, but that we really make decisions right now, today, that ensure a prosperous and brighter future for generations of Manitobans to come.

      Now, the Throne Speech was a big hit; we know that. Manitobans are over the moon about what they saw in health care, the economy, edu­ca­tion, et cetera. But the Manitoba Chambers of Commerce responded to our 2025 Throne Speech. I'm going table that because I'm pretty certain the Leader of the Op­posi­tion hasn't bothered to read it. Lots of really good, good quotes in here, reflecting on the strength of our Throne Speech.

      But I want to make perfectly clear: The brightest–the way that our future of Manitoba is–

Con­stit­uent with Spinal Muscular Atrophy
Funding for Medication

Mrs. Colleen Robbins (Spruce Woods): On May 1, Jeremy Bray finally got access to the life-changing medicine he needed. Over the past six months, his life has taken on new hope. For once in my life, he told me, I was be–able to be optimistic about the future of my disease.

      He had hope until Friday, when he got a phone call from this gov­ern­ment telling him his funding was cut off, out of the blue, for no reason given. What you have is what you get.

      Why did this minister dangle hope for Jeremy just to rip it away again?

Hon. Uzoma Asagwara (Minister of Health, Seniors and Long-Term Care): I recog­nize that the member for Spruce Woods is new and maybe isn't fully up to speed on this file. This is a really tragic situation. Jeremy Bray is a Manitoban with a degenerative disease that is rare.

      And our gov­ern­ment, when this was brought to our attention and brought to my attention, started working very quickly to examine all possible avenues to support Jeremy and his family. This was an issue that was brought forward years ago under the previous PC gov­ern­ment. They didn't do anything, which is unfor­tunate.

      But we have been working very hard with the Canadian drug agency to advance some studies and some steps that they can take to support this family. I'll offer more infor­ma­tion in my next response, but I encourage that member to learn a bit more of the back­ground on this case.

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The Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Spruce Woods, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

Mrs. Robbins: Well, this minister pledged open com­muni­cation but has been silent on this issue. Jeremy got the call telling him no more medicine was covered. That's it.

      It was working. He had hope.

      If this minister was willing to kill his hope and future, why didn't the minister have the courage to pick up the phone?

MLA Asagwara: Hon­our­able Speaker, our office has been in com­muni­cation with Jeremy Bray and his family. I was able to meet with the family in my office. This is really serious. [interjection] The Leader of the Op­posi­tion, you probably shouldn't heckle me right now.

The Speaker: Order.

MLA Asagwara: Hon­our­able Speaker, this is a very serious matter. My office has been in regular com­muni­cation. We actually spoke with Jeremy today. I want to make very clear that the pharmaceutical company that was provi­ding the medi­cation to him under com­pas­sion­ate coverage. We're very hopeful that Roche will continue to do that moving forward.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Spruce Woods, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Mrs. Robbins: This is cruel, Hon­our­able Speaker. It's cruel to give hope, then snatch it away again. This Health Minister should be ashamed. It should be doctors who are directing Jeremy's medical treatment, not the minister.

      So would this minister stand in this place today and commit today to fully funding Jeremy's medi­cation?

MLA Asagwara: I thank the member for Spruce Woods for making that very, very wise statement. It should be doctors and experts that make decisions about medi­cations being given to those who need it, not politicians.

      The Canadian drug agency commissioned a review, at our request, an expedited review of this case. We pushed very hard for that to be done. Our advocacy to them and Roche resulted in Roche provi­ding Jeremy Bray with medi­cation under their com­pas­sion­ate coverage policy.

      I highly encourage Roche to continue to provide that com­pas­sion­ate coverage for Jeremy as he's indicating he's ex­per­iencing benefits. I look forward to sitting down with Jeremy and his family to discuss this further, but we will keep advocating to the CDA. We will keep advocating to Roche, something they never did.

Affordability and Cost of Living
Income and Property Tax Relief Concerns

Mrs. Lauren Stone (Midland): Hon­our­able Speaker, it's clear that Manitobans cannot afford this NDP gov­ern­ment. The NDP are spending more, borrowing more and driving Manitoba deeper and deeper into debt.

      Yet, Manitobans are getting zero affordability relief from this NDP. Families are paying more for groceries, for their electricity bills and their everyday essentials, yet this NDP refuses to offer any meaning­ful long-term tax relief.

      Why did this NDP fail to provide or announce any meaningful tax relief during an affordability crisis to Manitobans in their Throne Speech?

Hon. Adrien Sala (Minister of Finance): Hon­our­able Speaker, I'm going to quote the Deputy Premier (MLA Asagwara) from their response yesterday and say: What are they talking about?

      We cut the gas tax an entire year, holiday, again, some­thing they didn't do for seven and a half years. Then we brought in a permanent gas tax cut. Then we brought in a hydro rate freeze, a middle-class tax cut across all of Manitoba and edu­ca­tion property tax credits that are helping to reduce the cost of edu­ca­tion property taxes.

      We are doing the work of making life more affordable, and in our Throne Speech yesterday, we announced that we're going to be doing more work to help make groceries more affordable and we're going to be doing work to tackle the cost of rent.

      These are things that members opposite never did anything about. In fact, they did the opposite. They made life more expensive.

      Manitobans can count on this–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The hon­our­able member for Midland, on a sup­ple­­mentary question.

Mrs. Stone: This NDP gov­ern­ment's makeshift tem­po­rary tax policies that ended a year ago are not helping Manitobans today. In fact, costs have just increased. Electricity has increased. Gas taxes have increased, yet this NDP gov­ern­ment offered no long-term meaningful solutions today and into the future.

      In fact, $82 million in additional taxation for income taxes, $350 million in new edu­ca­tion property taxes, 55 per cent of Winnipeg properties worse off, thanks to this NDP gov­ern­ment's property tax plan. Families are having to choose between paying their bills and sending kids to activities. Fixed‑income seniors are having to choose between paying their bills and paying for medi­cation.

      Will this NDP gov­ern­ment reverse their decision on edu­ca­tion property tax so–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

MLA Sala: Hon­our­able Speaker, this is coming from a member whose party jacked up taxes on renters by $175. That's their record. They jacked up hydro rates. Again, I–we talk about this over and over in this House, but it doesn't seem to get across. They did work year over year of making life more expensive. We're doing the work of lowering costs.

      And in addition to that, Hon­our­able Speaker, we're growing op­por­tun­ities here in Manitoba. We have added 25,000 jobs in Manitoba since we took gov­ern­ment. Led by this minister, led by our Premier (Mr. Kinew), we're doing the work of creating more op­por­tun­ities while we make Manitoba affordable. That is the path towards building a stronger province. They took us backwards; we're going to keep moving us forward.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Midland, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Mrs. Stone: Hon­our­able Speaker, under this PC gov­ern­ment, electricity rates were the second lowest in North America. They are only increasing under this NDP gov­ern­ment. So is income taxes and so is edu­ca­tion property taxes. Yet Manitobans are not getting any cost‑of‑living relief or any new long‑term afford­ability measures from this NDP gov­ern­ment.

      Will the finance admit that his fiscal irrespon­sibility is pushing Manitobans to the brink, with almost half reporting that they're $200 away from bank­ruptcy?

MLA Sala: Hon­our­able Speaker, the members oppo­site jacked up hydro rates every single year they were in gov­ern­ment and they did it with new and novel ways through legis­lation, all types of new methods to make life more expensive.

      You know what the most ridiculous part is, Honour­able Speaker, about that? They did that with­out building one single additional megawatt of energy to support Manitobans. They achieved the impossible: made rates go up as fast as they could while they did nothing of any kind to advance the province when it comes to meeting our energy needs.

      We're keeping rates affordable, we're building hydro, we're building Manitoba. And we're going to get the job done.

The Speaker: Just before we proceed, I would ask both sides to calm down, because everybody's getting too loud.

School Divisions
Funding Levels

Mr. Wayne Ewasko (Lac du Bonnet): O, Hon­our­able Speaker, once again, this minister seems to be factually incorrect, and maybe we need to take one of the member from Elmwood's Snickers bars and give it to him because obviously he's a little angry today.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, Manitobans just can't afford this speNDP gov­ern­ment.

      Will the Edu­ca­tion Minister today stand up and apologize for underfunding school boards on our edu­ca­tion?

Hon. Tracy Schmidt (Minister of Education and Early Childhood Learning): Hon­our­able Speaker, what in the world is he talking about? Since we have come into gov­ern­ment–after years of the PC gov­ern­ment failing to invest in edu­ca­tion, freezing edu­ca­­tion funding–we have, since forming gov­ern­ment, $170‑million increase over two years.

      How much was it this year, Hon­our­able Speaker? This year alone it was 67–six-seven–$67 million. This year alone, $67 million, this year alone.

      What that means, Hon­our­able Speaker, is in Manitoba we have more than 800 teachers working in the system today than we did when they left office, and thank goodness they did.

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The honourable member for Lac du Bonnet, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Ewasko: Hon­our­able Speaker, I think the Edu­ca­tion Minister's going to need a box of Snickers bars.

      Math is hard. I know, for this minister, math is hard. Hon­our­able Speaker, '22-23 school year funding from the PC gov­ern­ment: $120 million to the school divisions; '23-24: $100 million plus, another $106 million.

      She stated her lack of funding to school divisions right on the record today, Hon­our­able Speaker. She and her gov­ern­ment are forcing Manitobans to the tune of another $350-million tax hikes on Manitobans. She can stand up today and apologize.

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      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

MLA Schmidt: Hon­our­able Speaker, it boggles my mind that the member opposite would want us to apologize for funding our school divisions so that our school divisions can hire more than 800 new teachers to work in our schools.

      What does that mean, Hon­our­able Speaker? That means more one‑on‑one time between students and their teachers so that students can get 'metter' at math which, again, we could all get better at doing.

      We know that the students here in Manitoba have a great potential. Unfor­tunately, after seven and a half years of a gov­ern­ment that did not believe in them, a gov­ern­ment that did not believe in teachers, Manitobans finally have a gov­ern­ment that knows how to invest in edu­ca­tion. We have a caucus that is full–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The hon­our­able member for Lac du Bonnet, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Edu­ca­tion System
New Funding Model

Mr. Wayne Ewasko (Lac du Bonnet): Hon­our­able Speaker, the minister stood up herself and actually verified the fact that her funding was half as much as what was funded under the PC gov­ern­ment. There was nothing in the Throne Speech about the new edu­ca­tion funding model.

      Can the minister advise the House when the new funding model is actually coming to school divisions, or did she scrap it?

Hon. Tracy Schmidt (Minister of Education and Early Childhood Learning): Hon­our­able Speaker, our advisory council on school funding has been meet­ing regularly. I just met with that funding advisory panel just last week, and they are working very hard to make sure that schools here in Manitoba are funded in the way that they need to be.

      Not only are we funding schools so that they can have more teachers in the classroom, but we are–once again, Hon­our­able Speaker, this year and forever and all time, thanks to Nello's Law–we'll be funding a $30‑million uni­ver­sal nutrition program so that every single student in Manitoba has the best chance that they can, not only to succeed in school, but to succeed in life.

      We know that a good edu­ca­tion plan is a good health‑care plan. We know a good edu­ca­tion plan is a good public safety plan, and thank–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Edu­ca­tion Property Taxes
Increase Concerns for Brandon

Mr. Wayne Balcaen (Brandon West): Brandon taxpayers are looking at a 10 per cent increase in edu­ca­tion property taxes as a best case scenario because of this NDP gov­ern­ment's incompetence. Despite efforts for a more fair funding model, this failed Minister of Edu­ca­tion threw it all out and carried on with her destructive ways.

      Why has this minister left my con­stit­uents holding the bag, emptying their wallets for her incompetence?

Hon. Tracy Schmidt (Minister of Education and Early Childhood Learning): Hon­our­able Speaker, they can–the op­posi­tion can spend their times making personal attacks on me. The member from Lac du Bonnet says I don't know how to do math; the member from Brandon West says I'm incompetent.

      What we're focused on on this side of the House, Hon­our­able Speaker–they can attack me all day long. We're here to work for Manitobans.

      It was only just in the last week and a half the Premier (Mr. Kinew), myself and the member for Brandon East (Mr. Simard) were in Brandon. We were at Neelin High School, celebrating that in­cred­ible school and the in­cred­ible resilience that they've had after a terrible tragedy. We've met with the super­intendent; we've met the–with the school board.

      We're going to continue working with all of our partners to make sure that every student in Manitoba, including every student in Brandon, has the resources that they need to succeed.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Brandon West, on a sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Balcaen: It's good that they've met with the schools, but have they met with the school board? The NDP put on those rose‑coloured glasses and they ignored reality.

      The board chair put it so simply during the public meeting that even this NDP Cabinet can't ignore the warning signs, and I'll quote: What we're trying to tell you is bad; it's really bad.

      Well, Hon­our­able Speaker, that also describes this Cabinet. It's bad; it's really bad.

      To the MLA for Brandon East, I've heard about this from my con­stit­uents, so why is he repre­sen­ting gov­ern­ment to his con­stit­uents rather than his con­stit­uents to gov­ern­ment?

MLA Schmidt: Again, I've put this on the record before, but I'll say it again. Do you know how–do you know the number of school divisions that saw an increase both last year and the year previous? That's 100 per cent, and that includes the Brandon School Division.

      The Brandon School Division has received a 14 and a half increase in their funding since we've come into gov­ern­ment. That's over $11 million, Hon­our­able Speaker. And what that has resulted in in the com­mu­nity of Brandon is more than 70 new staff working in the com­mu­nity of Brandon that were not there under their previous gov­ern­ment.

      And I will table it for the House, the record of the gov­ern­ment previous and the cuts that the Brandon School Division was left to make under their watch, and what did they have to cut, Hon­our­able Speaker? The nutrition–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The honourable member for Brandon West, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Mr. Balcaen: Well, let's hear more from the board. Board vice-chair Duncan Ross was clear and, unlike this minister, upfront about the problem. And I quote from an interview: We overtax our citizens and some­how, we make it work, but I'm worried about the point where we can't. There's been no real signs from this Province that anything's going to change or come, despite us re­peat­edly saying that things are broken. End quote.

      So simply, I ask my fellow Brandonite and member for Brandon East (Mr. Simard): The board says it's broken. Why isn't his NDP gov­ern­ment listening?

MLA Schmidt: Hon­our­able Speaker, the member from Brandon is correct that they left the edu­ca­tion system broken. We are still recovering. The school divi­sion, school board, schools, students, teachers across this province are still recovering from their absolutely shameful record, Hon­our­able Speaker.

      But if the member from Brandon West is looking for signs, I've got three for them. We're talking about a brand new school in the com­mu­nity of Brandon, in Brandon School Division. We're talking about another brand new school in Brandon for the DSFM school division. And we are finally fixing their mistake with a brand new expansion and renovation at Maryland Park School.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, we will fix what the PCs have broken.

Monitoring Food Inflation
Food Costing Report

MLA Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Hon­our­able Speaker, most provinces in Canada conduct what's called regular food costing in urban, rural and remote areas using a tool that measures the cost of a basic, healthy diet. Unfor­tunately, this gov­ern­ment has yet to engage in regular food costing.

      In 2017, a coalition led by the Manitoba Health, Seniors and Active Living collected grocery pricing across Manitoba. The Province was to prepare and issue a final report; however, to this day, a report has not been released.

      With the cost of food rising, does this gov­ern­ment plan to create a new report to better understand why food inflation in Manitoba is higher than the national average?

Hon. Uzoma Asagwara (Minister of Health, Seniors and Long-Term Care): I apologize. I actually didn't hear the year that the member for Tyndall Park was referencing in terms of that prior report, so I'd ap­pre­ciate if she could share that again in her follow-up question; I want to make sure I respond accordingly.

      But in the absence of having that detail, what I will say is our gov­ern­ment takes nutrition and the health of our com­mu­nities and the health of kids across this province very, very seriously. We have this sort of north star for our gov­ern­ment and for this province that more kids will see their 18th birthday and thrive beyond that, which is part of the reason why, you know, inspired by our late and great colleague Nello Altomare, we passed legis­lation and imple­mented a uni­ver­sal nutrition program across this province for all students in all schools.

      That is something that changes the health out­comes for gen­era­tions to come.

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

      The honourable member for Tyndall Park, on a supplementary question.

Cost of Living in Manitoba
Support for Those Most in Need

MLA Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): The year was 2017.

      The cost of living in Manitoba continues to rise. Everyday items from groceries, hygiene products, household appliances and more keep getting more expensive, in part because of a lack of public reporting being done in Manitoba.

      People are needing to cut back, avoid quality products and even skip im­por­tant everyday needs like meals and maintaining hygiene. Hon­our­able Speaker, those who need the most assist­ance have yet to receive tangible cost-saving benefits.

      When can those who really need the assist­ance expect to start seeing savings?

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Hon. Adrien Sala (Minister of Finance): I really appre­ciate the question from the member.

      We do know that it's im­por­tant that we do more work to help Manitobans who are struggling with affordability. And that's why when we came in, we took measures imme­diately, which, of course, we've talked about a lot in this House.

      But when it comes to grocery prices, we do know that we've made progress with our bill, bill 31, which ensures more competition among grocery stores. We know that yesterday's an­nounce­ment that we're going to be continuing to do studies that will lead into action at a later date to support more affordability on groceries is im­por­tant because, again, we know that after years of Manitobans having a gov­ern­ment that wasn't focused on ensuring that those that need sup­port got support, that we need to lean into that.

      And we need to keep focusing on making sure that this work that this gov­ern­ment is focused on–of making life more affordable–continues each and every day.

The Speaker: The honourable member for Tyndall Park, on a final sup­ple­mentary question.

Dev­elop­ment of Port of Churchill


Reduction in the Cost of Goods for Northerners

MLA Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Hon­our­able Speaker, rural Manitobans are especially feeling the burden of food insecurity, often with limited access to groceries and everyday needs.

      The last time the prov­incial gov­ern­ment released a Northern Food Prices Report was in 2003. Manitobans in First Nations com­mu­nities and towns like Churchill, The Pas and Dauphin can't keep up with the skyrocketing prices, making them turn to cheaper processed foods and high-sugar alternatives.

      The Premier (Mr. Kinew) met with the Prime Minister earlier this week to speak on the dev­elop­ment of the Port of Churchill.

      Can the gov­ern­ment confirm and share that, with the invest­ments being promised, groceries will become more affordable to existing com­mu­nities following the opening of the port?

Hon. Adrien Sala (Minister of Finance): Again, really ap­pre­ciate the question about food prices and how we can do more, what we need to do to keep making life more affordable.

      Again, yesterday's an­nounce­ment about our com­mit­­ment to study how we can move forward in lowering grocery costs even further is some­thing that's very im­por­tant. We're excited to do that work and then follow that up with action. Again, that builds on bill 31, which increases competition among grocers in Manitoba that's helping to keep food prices lower.

      And also, of course, we know that the uni­ver­sal school nutrition program, some­thing we're so proud to have brought in–some­thing the members opposite thought was a bad idea, to support kids in ensuring that they could get access to the nutritious food they needed to start their day and be suc­cess­ful in school–is in­cred­ibly im­por­tant.

      So we're proud of the work that we've done. There's more work to do, but we know that life under the members opposite was difficult–

The Speaker: Member's time has expired.

Paramedic Training Seats
Expansion Announcement

MLA Shannon Corbett (Transcona): Our gov­ern­ment understands that first respon­ders are key to delivering health care in com­mu­nities across Manitoba. Under the previous gov­ern­ment, we lost 90 rural paramedics as the PCs dismantled health care. But yesterday brought good news for paramedics in Manitoba.

      Can the Minister of Health tell us about how they're improving emergency care access here in Manitoba?

Hon. Uzoma Asagwara (Minister of Health, Seniors and Long-Term Care): For years under the PCs, we saw paramedic training enrolment drop. Training seats sat empty as the PCs made it harder and harder for people to pursue their career as an emergency responder.

      But we are changing that. I was proud to announce with my colleagues yesterday–and the Premier–14 new direct-entry seats for paramedic training at Red River College.

      By eliminating the PCs' unnecessary red tape to college entry, we can now see students enter this train­ing program right out of high school. And I'm proud to say that, after years of the PCs letting those classes and those seats sit empty, today we have full enrolment of those PCP seats at Red River College who are prepared to serve Manitobans.

      This is another way we're keeping you safe across the province. It's another way that we're delivering better health care for Manitobans.

Manitoba's Economic Outlook
Impact on Key Sectors

Mr. Konrad Narth (La Vérendrye): I continue to voice Manitobans' concern about the direction of our economy under this unaffordable NDP gov­ern­ment. In just one month, we saw 4,000 manufacturing jobs disappear. Another 1,000 mining jobs gone. And value-added agri­cul­ture companies? They're packing up and heading west after being ghosted by this NDP gov­ern­ment.

      That's the real record of this Premier (Mr. Kinew) on economic dev­elop­ment: jobs leaving, invest­ment leaving and op­por­tun­ities leaving. Manufacturing, mining, agri­cul­ture: three pillars of our economy collapsing under this gov­ern­ment's watch.

      My question to the travel agent Premier: who's next?

Hon. Jamie Moses (Minister of Business, Mining, Trade and Job Creation): I think our gov­ern­ment is very proud of the work we're doing to build a stronger economy that works for all Manitobans. In fact, in the last two years, we've created over 25,000 new, good, full-time jobs for Manitobans.

      And just in the last year, Hon­our­able Speaker, Manitobans should know we created 3,400 new con­struction jobs, 2,700 new jobs in wholesale trades and 1,600 new agri­cul­ture jobs. That's the second highest rate in the country–a record we're proud of–to do along­side our Minister of Agri­cul­ture (Mr. Kostyshyn), to grow our economy, grow agri­cul­ture and make sure it supports all Manitobans.

Mr. Narth: Hon­our­able Speaker, since we didn't get an answer, I'll tell you who's next: it's the housing industry.

      Housing starts in Winnipeg fell by 40 per cent in October alone, and it wasn't because of the weather; the weather's been great this fall. The CMHC data was clear: Winnipeg housing starts are down 46 per cent from last year; multi-unit starts down 67 per cent; and province-wide, Manitoba ranks dead last in the entire country.

      Our province has so much to offer with endless op­por­tun­ities, but under this gov­ern­ment, people aren't wanting to invest or build here. This Premier lives in his own reality.

      Is anyone over there willing to take respon­si­bility for the economic freefall we're–

The Speaker: Member's time is expired.

Mr. Moses: Hon­our­able Speaker, the economic freefall we saw under the failed PC gov­ern­ment included inflation that was skyrocketing, job growth that was stagnant and Manitobans were fleeing the province to record numbers.

      We've reversed the trend on that with record job growth, with em­ploy­ment–un­em­ploy­ment rates that are among the best in the country. In fact, we're Trump-proofing our economy instead of thanking Trump and making sure we create more jobs in manufacturing, in agri­cul­ture and in the trades.

      We're so thankful to work alongside partners in our post-secondaries to ensure Manitobans have the training to get the jobs for now and well into the future so that all of Manitobans can partici­pate in a growing and thriving economy.

The Speaker: Order, please.

      The time for–order, please.

      The time for oral questions has expired.

Introduction of Guests

The Speaker: I have a ruling for the House, but first, there's some guests in the gallery I would like to intro­duce.

      We have seated in the public gallery, from sir John's-Ravenscourt, 50 grade 9 students under the direction of Heather Ragot, and this group is located in the con­stit­uency of the hon­our­able member for St. Johns (MLA Fontaine).

Speaker's Ruling

The Speaker: Order, please.

      In the Second Session of the 43rd Legislature, prior to routine proceedings on October 30, 2025, the honourable Leader of the Official Opposition (Mr. Khan) raised a matter of privilege regarding the Speaker refusing a request for camera footage from the Chamber, stating that such requests had been granted in other instances. The member concluded his remarks by moving that this Assembly release and make publicly available the multi-view footage of the Chamber from the date, Wednesday, October 29.

      The hon­our­able Deputy Government House Leader (MLA Pankratz) spoke to the matter before I took it under ad­vise­ment.

      In order for a matter of privilege to be ruled as prima facie, a member must demon­strate that the issue has been raised at the earliest op­por­tun­ity, while also provi­ding sufficient evidence to support the claim that a prima facie case of privilege has been esta­blished.

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      On the con­di­tion of timeliness, the member raised the matter at 1:30 p.m. on the day he received the email with the infor­ma­tion in question. While he could have raised the matter when the House met at 10 a.m. that day, Manitoba Speakers have typically allowed members to wait until 1:30 to raise such matters. I would also acknowledge the member's asser­tion that he needed to do some research on this before raising it in the House. Therefore, I would agree that he raised the matter at his earliest opportunity.

      Regarding the question of whether the member established a prima facie case, I will quickly review his case. The member stated that, in connection with a different matter of privilege raised by the honour­able member for Steinbach (Mr. Goertzen), he requested camera footage from this House from the Speaker's office. He then noted that the Speaker refused that request, and he tabled the relevant email and my letter. The member also referenced a previous incident where video footage from the House was released, and stated that an unequal standard was applied to the two different incidents and requests for footage. He further asserted that the denial of this footage was a "clear breach of my ability to perform my role as Leader of the Official Opposition and MLA for Fort Whyte."

      I will note here that the basis for the member's complaint is an alleged breach of an administrative procedure of this House, and I have two points to make in relation to this.

      First, the Speaker of this–as the Speaker of this House, I am responsible for making many procedural and administrative decisions relating to the Assembly. This is affirmed on page 318 of the third edition of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, which states: as the arbitrator of House proceedings, the Speaker's duty is to preserve order and decorum in the House and to decide any matters of procedure that may arise. This duty carries with it a wide‑ranging authority extending to the conduct of proceedings.

      Second, decisions regarding the release of video footage from the Chamber are both procedural and administrative. I reference this because I have advised members previously any matter concerning the methods by which the House proceeds in the conduct of busi­ness would be a question of order, not privilege. Joseph Maingot, in the second edition of Parliamentary Privilege in Canada states on page 14 that allegations of breach of privilege by a member in the House that amount to complaints about procedures and practices in the House are, by their very nature, matters of order.

      With these points in mind, I am ruling on this matter the member did not establish a prima facie case of privilege.

      For the sake of clarity for all members on this matter, in the letter I sent to all members on October 27, 2025, and in an email I sent October 30, 2025 to the honourable Leader of the Official Op­posi­tion (Mr. Khan), I clearly identified the criteria under which I would release such footage.

      For the record, I will quote from that email now: I will remind you of the conditions under which I stated I would release multi‑view footage from the Chamber, as explained in my letter to all MLAs on this topic, dated October 27, 2025. In the event of an incident happening in the Chamber that I did not witness and was not captured on the Assembly broad­cast, I may choose to review multi‑view footage. However, this will only happen if the incident in question is raised in the House as part of a point of order or a matter of privilege, and if I deem it neces­sary to consult the recording when considering my ruling on the matter.

      On such occasions, once I have ruled on the point of order or matter of privilege, I will make the footage in question available upon request.

      In the case of the incident and which is the subject of the matter of privilege raised on October 29 by the honourable member for Steinbach, I witnessed the events myself and therefore I do not deem it necessary to consult the recordings when considering my ruling on the matter.

      Accordingly, I will not be releasing any footage on this incident.

      I thank members for their attention to this matter.

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The Speaker: Grievances?

Ms. Jodie Byram (Deputy Official Opposition House Leader): With all due respect, Hon­our­able Speaker, I would like to challenge this, please.

The Speaker: The ruling of the Speaker has been challenged.

Voice Vote

The Speaker: All those in favour of sustaining the ruling of the Speaker, please say aye.

Some Honourable Members: Aye.

The Speaker: All those opposed, please say nay.

Some Honourable Members: Nay.

The Speaker: In my opinion, the Ayes have it.

Ms. Byram: Recorded vote, please.

The Speaker: A recorded vote has been requested. Please call in the members.

* (15:40)

      Order, please.

      The one hour for the ringing of the division bells is expired. Therefore, I'm requesting that they be turned off and the House proceed to the vote.

      The question before the House is: Shall the Speaker's ruling be sustained?

Division

A RECORDED VOTE was taken, the result being as follows:

Ayes

Asagwara, Blashko, Brar, Bushie, Cable, Chen, Compton, Corbett, Cross, Dela Cruz, Devgan, Kennedy, Kinew, Kostyshyn, Lamoureux, Lathlin, Loiselle, Maloway, Marcelino, Moses, Moyes, Oxenham, Pankratz, Redhead, Sala, Sandhu, Schmidt, Schott, Simard, Wiebe.

Nays

Balcaen, Bereza, Byram, Cook, Ewasko, Goertzen, Guenter, Hiebert, Khan, King, Narth, Nesbitt, Perchotte, Robbins, Schuler, Stone, Wasyliw, Wharton, Wowchuk.

Clerk (Mr. Rick Yarish): Ayes 30, Nays 19.

The Speaker: The ruling of the Speaker has been sustained.

      The motion has been passed.

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The Speaker: Now we will move on to petitions.

      Seeing none, House busi­ness?

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

House Business

Ms. Jodie Byram (Deputy Official Opposition House Leader): On House busi­ness.

The Speaker: The hon­our­able member for Agassiz, on House busi­ness.

Ms. Byram: Hon­our­able Speaker, pursuant to rule 34(8), I'm announcing that the private member's reso­lu­tion to be considered on the next Thursday of private members' busi­ness will be the one put forward by the honour­able member for La Vérendrye. The title of the reso­lu­tion is Affordability and the Economy.

The Speaker: It has been announced that, pursuant to rule 34(8), that the private member's reso­lu­tion to be considered on the next Thursday of private members' busi­ness will be the one put forward by the hon­our­able member for La Vérendrye. The title of the reso­lu­tion is Affordability and the Economy.

Throne Speech


(Second Day of Debate)

The Speaker: Now–we will now resume Throne Speech debate, and the debate is standing in the name of the hon­our­able member for La Vérendrye, that has 14 minutes remaining.

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Mr. Konrad Narth (La Vérendrye): Thank you for the op­por­tun­ity, again, to speak to the Throne Speech that was presented by this gov­ern­ment earlier this week.

      As you will have remembered, Hon­our­able Speaker, I was focusing on the economy and the outright gap between rhetoric and reality in this gov­ern­ment's Throne Speech. And as you will have remembered, I was speaking spe­cific­ally to Churchill, and nowhere have we seen a gap between rhetoric and reality more obvious than in this gov­ern­ment's fixation on the Port of Churchill.

      Let me make it absolutely clear: revitalizing Churchill is a worthwhile goal. It has real potential. It could be transformational if it were built on the founda­tion of real customers, real suppliers, real con­tracts, real shippers, real financing and real federal part­ner­ship. But right now, none of these pieces exist.

      The Premier (Mr. Kinew) keeps using words like multibillion-dollar op­por­tun­ity, but after two years, he has not secured one committed customer, not one long‑term contract, not one commodity stream ready to move through the port.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, a port without products is not a port; it is a hobby project. They want to build a warehouse with nothing to put in it, and they want to build a terminal with nothing to move through it. This is the equivalent of a busi­ness opening a store with no inventory, no suppliers and no customers, and then wondering why nothing is selling in this province.

      If you build it, they will come, is not sound public policy; it's fantasy. What Manitobans find so troubling is that the Premier (Mr. Kinew) is charging ahead with millions of taxpayer dollars for yet another feasibility study despite no federal commit­ment, no confirmed private partners, no signed shippers, no operational busi­ness case, no cost‑benefit analysis and no demon­strated demand.

      And when the Prime Minister visited Manitoba last week, the Premier trotted him out for the photo op and came away with nothing. Not a commit­ment, not a timeline, not even a hint of a part­ner­ship. Worse still, the minister of economic dev­elop­ment wasn't even there.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, I'll actually pause here because it's good to see the minister of economic dev­elop­ment–it's good to see the minister of economic dev­elop­ment. I don't want to point out if he's present or not present and that's why I stumbled for a second, because I respect the rules of this House. But it's great to see the minister, because I was starting to get worried.

      He's been so absent on Manitoba's biggest economic file that I wasn't sure if he still had that job. This gov­ern­ment can't even get its own minister respon­si­ble for economic growth into the room when the Prime Minister's here. How can anyone take this gov­ern­ment seriously?

      Hon­our­able Speaker, no credible company would launch a major project without secured buyers, secured suppliers, secured capital, secured markets and a secured trans­por­tation plan. Yet, that is exactly the approach this gov­ern­ment is taking with Churchill. They keep saying Churchill, Churchill, Churchill–but words do not create commerce, words do not build the economy and words definitely do not attract the invest­ment.

      Leadership requires action. Leadership requires vision backed by execution. Leadership means want­ing the ball when the movement matters, not handing it to the Prime Minister and saying, the ball is in your court now, Mr. Prime Minister. That was not leadership; that was an administration that has no plan on their own.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, while this gov­ern­ment is stuck in photo ops and poetry, our neighbours are getting deals done. Saskatchewan just secured a billion-dollar ag trade deal with Indonesia. Alberta is expanding their petrochemical exports in LNG part­ner­ships. Ontario continues to attract manufacturing and energy invest­ment.

      And you might ask how–you might ask how, Hon­our­able Speaker. How does everyone around us seem to be winning when we're losing? Well, they pick up the phone, they get on planes, they visit markets, they sell their provinces, they fight for the invest­ment. They act like partners, not as spectators.

      Meanwhile, where was our Agri­cul­ture Minister? Ottawa? And what did he bring back to Manitoba? Nothing. There is a reason Saskatchewan, Alberta and Ontario signed a 'memnorandum' of under­standing to pursue an energy corridor. And Manitoba was invited. And what did this Premier do with that invitation? He refused. He refused to even sign the agree­ment needed to start the con­ver­sa­tion.

      Manitoba could have positioned Churchill as the national end point of a national energy corridor. The op­por­tun­ity was sitting right there, and he let it walk out the door. Manitoba is being left behind not because of geography, not because of capacity, definitely not because of op­por­tun­ity; we are being left behind because of political decisions.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, what was perhaps most shock­ing in this Throne Speech was the lack of any meaningful plan for agri­cul­ture, the backbone of Manitoba's economy and certainly the backbone of my con­stit­uency of La Vérendrye.

      After one of the worst drought years in recent memory, producers needed some commit­ments. They needed real relief and they needed a real strategy. Instead, they received a passing mention, a generic line about supporting producers and another an­nounce­ment of–guess what?–another study. No plan for long-term water storage; no plan for drought resilience; no plan for ag processing expansion; no plan for competitiveness, on red tape reduction; no plan for a permitting reform; no plan to strengthen food processing, transport or export capacity.

      Agri­cul­ture is not a footnote in Manitoba's economy; it is the economy. And this gov­ern­ment continues to treat it as an afterthought. Producers don't need symbolic language; they need execution. They need a gov­ern­ment that understands that when agri­cul­ture suffers, Manitoba suffers.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, let's be honest about what two years of this NDP gov­ern­ment has produced: a decline in prov­incial GDP growth; busi­nesses walking away from invest­ment op­por­tun­ities; a mining sector losing ground; agribusi­ness expansion relocating to other provinces; months-long delays for basic permits; dropping competitiveness rankings; a shrinking private sector con­fi­dence index. This Throne Speech tried to paint a picture of momentum, but the truth is, Manitoba is stagnating.

* (16:00)

      If photo ops built economies, Manitoba would be booming. If recycled an­nounce­ments created jobs, we would have record em­ploy­ment. If studies solved problems, rural com­mu­nities would be thriving. But, in the real world, economic dev­elop­ment requires timelines, targets, accountability, efficiency and busi­ness acumen. This gov­ern­ment has none of those qualities.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, Manitobans deserve better. They deserve a gov­ern­ment with a real plan, a gov­ern­ment that understands agri­cul­ture, supports invest­ment and respects the private sector; a gov­ern­ment that reduces red tape, accelerates approvals, partners with industry, restores competitiveness, attracts the capital and delivers the results; a gov­ern­ment that recognizes that ports succeed because of shippers, not slogans, economies grow because of invest­ment, not ideology, op­por­tun­ities materialize because of leader­ship, not by luck. That is the Progressive Conservative vision. We've done it before, and we will do it again.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, this Throne Speech encouraged Manitobans to believe in in­cred­ible things, but Manitobans do not want. They believe in­cred­ible things will happen. They want real results, not recycled promises. They want real leadership, not theatrical language. They want economic growth, not red tape. And they want a gov­ern­ment that delivers for the people, not for the photo ops.

      This Throne Speech failed that test, and on this side of the House we will continue to hold this gov­ern­ment accountable, not to their rhetoric, but to their results. We will continue to champion agri­cul­ture, rural Manitoba, economic growth and the future that this province deserves.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, I think it's im­por­tant that we reflect on this Throne Speech and realize what exactly it highlights. This is the halfway point of the gov­ern­ment mandate. The halfway point should be showing what they've won on, the future and the vision for our province moving us forward. But instead, they've high­lighted their failures. They've high­lighted the things that they've promised and couldn't achieve. And their plan for moving forward is more of the same, more of the failed promises, more talking, more studying and less delivering.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, Manitoba deserves better. La Vérendrye, the southeast corner of Manitoba, deserves better. We deserve to be recog­nized for our economic strength and the future that we hold for the entire province.

      But instead we've been ignored. Southern Manitoba has been ignored, and all of Manitoba, for that fact, has been ignored. Manitobans deserve better, and we will hold this gov­ern­ment to account.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

MLA Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Hon­our­able Speaker, it's great to have the op­por­tun­ity here this afternoon and to respond to the gov­ern­ment's Throne Speech, and I just want to begin by sharing how those who I've have had the op­por­tun­ity to speak with so far this week since the Throne Speech has been released have shared a few thoughts about how the Throne Speech is a bit redundant, how it's a bit recycled, how some of these new commit­ments are and have been already happening over the last few years. A few of the other thoughts include how some of the commit­ments are actually quite difficult to believe, which I'll expand on a little bit more shortly, and how, of course, there's a lot missing.

      Now, seeing how health care is the biggest issue our province is facing, this is where I will begin. On the topic of Pharma­care and deductibles, I want to give the example of shingles, some­thing that I have been advocating for here in this House–to have the shingles vaccine covered–for a few years now, Honour­able Speaker. I actually have several con­stit­uents who are very passionate about this subject, and that's why I continue to bring it up over the years, and they keep me updated with what is happening here in Manitoba, especially compared to other provinces.

      The latest numbers show that one in two people over the age of 65 will ex­per­ience the pain and burn­ing of shingles in their lifetime. And while provinces like Ontario and Alberta cover the cost for the virus vaccine, Manitobans are still being forced to pay out of pocket. This is some­thing that, when the gov­ern­ment was in op­posi­tion, agreed that we shouldn't be forced to pay out of pocket.

      And now that they're in gov­ern­ment, they have the op­por­tun­ity to turn this around, but they still have not, and they're not even talking about it, as we saw in the Throne Speech.

      Covering shingles is a pre­ven­tative approach to health care and savings. Currently, it costs $300 for two vaccines, and this is a high enough cost for many Manitobans, especially those who are on fixed or low incomes, to be able to pony up, Hon­our­able Speaker.

      Oftentimes, seniors, spe­cific­ally, are being forced to choose between meals, between paying rent or should they get the vaccine. And we know the average cost to the health-care system for hospitalization due to shingles is $12,000 for a two-week stay. Again, this would be a low-cost, effective, pre­ven­tative measure that the gov­ern­ment could take; that gov­ern­ments in other provinces, including Alberta and Ontario, have already taken. And my hope is that Manitoba will do the same.

      The idea of this patient safety charter: Manitobans are confused. I've received emails on this, even up until today, Hon­our­able Speaker. What is it? How is it going to be put into practice? No details were actually released on it; no one was consulted on it. It sounds a little bit like a headline, is what someone had said to me in an email.

      Health-care pro­fes­sionals, for example, nursing: we know we need health-care pro­fes­sionals in every field, all across the province, and Manitoba isn't alone in this. But, for example, spe­cific­ally when it comes to nurses, how can the gov­ern­ment say that the practice of mandatory overtime for health-care workers will end and that they will legis­late staff-to-patient ratios when we simply do not have enough nurses? Yesterday and today, Darlene Jackson, the president of Manitoba Nurses Union, said in the Winnipeg Free Press how we are still in a nursing shortage.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, how can the gov­ern­ment expect hospitals to meet the gov­ern­ment's mandate when there are simply not enough nurses to go around right now? This is an unfair ex­pect­a­tion being placed upon nurses here in Manitoba who are already going above and beyond their ex­pect­a­tions.

      This is also what attributes to Manitoba's long wait times. If you google wait times in Manitoba, you will find article after article after article, up until the month of November in which we are right now, all indicating that wait times have not improved under this gov­ern­ment and, in some cases, they've actually gotten worse; they've become longer.

      So for the gov­ern­ment to say that they're getting better, it's inaccurate, Hon­our­able Speaker. Show us some hard numbers where they are getting better because, according to every­thing that is being released in the media, all the hard facts that are being shared publicly, they are not improving.

      I want to talk about Seven Oaks hospital. And I'm glad–and, again, I want to give credit when credit is due. I am glad that the gov­ern­ment is going to be having 22 new health-care staff at the hospital. But the gov­ern­ment needs to do what they said they were going to do. They campaigned on the promise that they were going to open up the ER at Seven Oaks hospital. They gained support from those living in the North End of Winnipeg, in this last election, based off that promise alone.

      Yet they have not made any traction on this. They haven't even talked about it. And, again, another throne speech goes by and we're yet to hear about any updates or potential movement or traction on the opening of the ER at Seven Oaks hospital.

      That hospital has such potential, Hon­our­able Speaker. And I've spoken about this many times in the House; I won't belabour it here this afternoon. But there are floors that are not being fully utilized. There is a helicopter pad on top of the hospital, just to show the 'grandosity' of what it could be.

      The popu­la­tion in the North End is continuing to grow, and yet the North Enders are feeling very neglected by this gov­ern­ment when they promised they were going to bring back the ER, and still no words on plans–even just plans–to bring it back, Honour­able Speaker

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      The issue of health cards, plastic verse digital. And, again, I want to say it's good to have options; I'm in favour of having both the plastic and the digital option. The upsetting part is the lack of foresight that this gov­ern­ment had. Why would the gov­ern­ment spend almost $6 million and hire 20 full-time workers for plastic cards to, only months later, provide the option of digital?

      I'm willing to bet, Hon­our­able Speaker, that a lot of people–and there were 200,000 people who registered for plastic cards since May–I'm willing to bet a lot of them would've opted for the digital if they would have had that option. So the Province could have saved nearly $6 million if they would have had some fore­sight and potentially rolled out the options together.

      I do question the gov­ern­ment. Were they fiscally respon­si­ble with this decision? I asked about it yester­day in question period, and they didn't have an answer. So I'm going to make the argument that they were not. And it seems to be a growing trend with this gov­ern­ment. They want the headline; they don't care about the cost to Manitobans.

      I want to talk about home care, Hon­our­able Speaker. And, again, this is some­thing I've spoken about many times in this House. At one point in time, home care was so much more than it is now. A home-care worker used to go into a residence and help with every­thing from shovelling snow to preparing food to even helping with groceries, going to the grocery store with the resident, helping them carry them into the house, unpack them, put them in cupboards.

      But now, home care–those working in home care are being stretched so in­cred­ibly thin that they're having to zip in and out of people's homes and accidents are happening, Hon­our­able Speaker. I think I've shared this example before, but I have a con­stit­uent who shared with me that, by accident, a home-care worker left an element on, the water boiled over and my con­stit­uent was quite blind, and the water boiled over and ended up really harming my con­stit­uent.

      These accidents are happening because home-care workers are stretched so thin, they're having to rush from one home to another, and now we're hearing–and it's not just me, I've talked with some of my colleagues here in this House–how home-care workers are having to cancel very last minute, even the morning of. We've had con­stit­uents share where their home-care worker was supposed to come over at some­thing like 10 a.m., Hon­our­able Speaker, and at 9:30, they're receiving a call saying, sorry, you're out of luck today, you're not going to be receiving home care. It's an unfair ex­pect­a­tion for our home-care workers.

      The gov­ern­ment's Throne Speech does not consider seniors. I am glad, and again, credit where credit is due, that they are building personal-care-home beds. But what the gov­ern­ment seems to be failing to miss the target on is that personal-care-home beds are not the only answer. We need to be thinking about long-term-care facilities as a whole. That's sup­port­ive housing homes, assisted living, 55-plus homes. Some cases, we need more hospices as well, Hon­our­able Speaker.

      And this is some­thing the gov­ern­ment never talks about. And we've put it on their radar, Hon­our­able Speaker. I've raised it in the House many, many times. We need to think broader than just personal-care homes, because not all seniors fit into that category. We need to be thinking about ensuring that facilities are built all through­out Manitoba to allow for seniors to remain in their com­mu­nities. We know it's so much better for their health, for their com­mu­nities, for their loved ones, and unfor­tunately, seniors are being forced to move all across the province just so they can go into a personal-care home that might not exactly suit their needs, and away from all of their supports.

      With respect to day programs, the gov­ern­ment said when they were in op­posi­tion that they were going to lower the cost of them. This has not happened and it continues not to be talked about. We can talk about Handi-Transit, Meals on Wheels, how we need to invest more into these resources because we do have a booming senior popu­la­tion here in Manitoba. Yet, they're not receiving the invest­ments that they need. We're not keeping up with the senior popu­la­tion, Hon­our­able Speaker.

      And the last comment on seniors is home repairs, some­thing, again, we've been advocating for over the years here in this House. Oftentimes, seniors want to have the ability to remain in their homes. But unfor­tunately, and, again, comes down to costs, a lot of seniors are on fixed incomes, low incomes, and they cannot afford to put upgrades in their house, whether it be a rail, whether that be a wheelchair ramp, some­thing to help them–a handrail to get in or out of their shower. These are, arguably, very small upgrades that so many seniors cannot afford that they are forced to leave their homes, their com­mu­nities and their loved ones. This is some­thing–or a de­part­ment where the gov­ern­ment could really step up and improve the lives of so many seniors in the province, yet it wasn't men­tioned at all in the Throne Speech.

      There are a couple parts of the Throne Speech under public safety that are positive, including banning weapons from public spaces. I question the new cor­rectional facility, just because some of the language is a little bit unclear: helping people who are ready to turn their lives around. This actually reminds me of youth justice com­mit­tees that the NDP got rid of.

      And so I question what is their motive behind this; what is the in­ten­tion of these correctional facilities. And none of the details were provided. Is it going to be treated as a correctional facility? Is it going to be treated as a place for mediation or 24-hour holds? I'm looking forward to the gov­ern­ment releasing more details on it, Hon­our­able Speaker.

      It's con­cern­ing and, again, very hard to believe in the Throne Speech that the gov­ern­ment says crime rates are down. It doesn't line up with what all of us are seeing in the media, with what all of us are hearing from our con­stit­uents. I know, at least every day between the media and con­stit­uents, at least every day, MLAs are hearing stories of break-ins, theft, assault, arson. It's all over the province.

      And, again, I don't think it's just Manitoba; I think it's all over Canada, but for the sake of this Throne Speech from this prov­incial gov­ern­ment, it doesn't line up to say that crime is decreasing, Hon­our­able Speaker. I would challenge this gov­ern­ment, any mem­bers of this gov­ern­ment: go out into your con­stit­uency and ask any person at random if they feel crime has improved. I'm willing to bet they'll say no.

      The stories that we're hearing on a regular basis about Winnipeg Transit–again, it's just, there's no evidence pointing to the fact that crime is getting better, not worse, Hon­our­able Speaker.

      On the topic of public transit, provinces across our country–again, including Ontario and Alberta–are making huge invest­ments in public trans­por­tation through new, sus­tain­able bus fleets, metro and rail. Trans­por­tation is the second highest source of emis­sions in Manitoba. With no figures being publicly shared and no concrete goals for public trans­por­tation, smaller cities in our province continue to struggle to keep their buses operating.

      Over the summer, the City of Winnipeg elected to remodel its transit system as a response to increasing demands, and advocacy groups–students, seniors, labourers and health-care workers–have clearly indicated how these changes have negatively impacted their ability to get to work and school on time and safely. The Uni­ver­sity of Manitoba Students' Union released a report as a response to the new system, and 91 per cent of responses were negative.

      I'm sure other MLAs are hearing from their con­stit­uents on this issue too. The Province can play a role, and Manitoba actually holds a very unique advantage for hosting industrial leaders in public trans­por­tation, such as New Flyer. We have a great op­por­tun­ity to be more environ­mental and progressive in public trans­por­tation all over our province. I just wish the gov­ern­ment would act on it; they need to step up.

      The gov­ern­ment used to act on it; we used to play a much bigger role when it came to transit, not just in Winnipeg but through­out Manitoba. But this NDP government has taken such a big step back and they're washing their hands and saying, okay, it's completely up to the City of Winnipeg. I believe the Province has a role to play, especially when con­stit­uents are reach­ing out to these MLAs.

      And my hope is that the MLAs who belong to the gov­ern­ment will start standing up for their con­stit­uents, Hon­our­able Speaker. The Province should pro­vide incentive for the bus, rather than just a gas tax removal that doesn't actually help those who need it the most. For example, our homeless popu­la­tion: I don't think the gas tax removal helps them.

      The gov­ern­ment campaigned in 2023 and pro­mised to end homelessness within eight years. The Throne Speech says that they're on track because they've moved 100 people from encampments into housing.

      However, according to End Homelessness Winnipeg and their 2024 census, an esti­mate of 2,469 individuals in Winnipeg were ex­per­iencing homeless­ness on November 5, 2024. These numbers simply do not line up with the gov­ern­ment saying that they're 25 per cent of the way to end homelessness in eight years. That does not check out, Hon­our­able Speaker.

      So, again, there's a lot of infor­ma­tion in the Throne Speech that it's very hard to believe is accurate. I'm concerned there are a few big topics that were not even mentioned, Hon­our­able Speaker–and I'm noticing the time; I'll try to be quick here.

      For example, the Prov­incial Nominee Program wasn't even mentioned in the throne speak, Hon­our­able Speaker. They couldn't even take the time as a courtesy to mention the Prov­incial Nominee Program.

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      Now, since being elected in 2016–almost 10 years–I can speak first-hand to the history of the program here in the House. When I first got elected in 2016, the NDP had just been in power for 17 years. They had destroyed the program. People were waiting three to five years just to hear if they were going to be accepted into the Prov­incial Nominee Program. That's asking people to put their lives on hold, asking them–in some cases, here in Manitoba, in some cases, other countries–to sit tight and wait and maybe Manitoba will find space for you. Completely inappropriate, Hon­our­able Speaker.

      Then the Conservative gov­ern­ment came into power. This was in 2016, and I was hearing from a lot of constit­uents. It was becoming a very, very big issue. I was feeling very upset that people were having to put their lives on hold for so long, that we did a protest. My colleague from Elmwood likes to remind me of this protest. We actually slept on the floor. This was myself and a couple of my assistants. We slept outside of the minister's office over­night, and the minister at the time was Ian Wishart. He was not my biggest fan at the time, but since then, we have a very nice relation­ship now, and we begged, we pleaded, we appealed, we debated why the program needs to change.

      Now, it did take some time, probably about eight months to a year, but those wait times went from three to five years to no more than three months. It was incred­ible, Hon­our­able Speaker. I was no longer being inundated at McDonald's on Saturday with con­stit­uents saying, Cindy, I'm waiting to be–to hear back.

      And Hon­our­able Speaker, I do want to be clear, though: they did implement a $500 head tax. I don't like it. If that's what it took to make the program run, fine, so be it. But again, the NDP, when they were in op­posi­tion, they fought this head tax. They said it was terrible. If they ever formed gov­ern­ment, they'd get rid of it.

      They haven't gotten rid of it, Hon­our­able Speaker, and they've been in power now for over two years. They won't even talk about it. The Minister respon­si­ble for Immigration, she used to sit on this side of the House and bang on the table and say get rid of the head tax. Now that she's in gov­ern­ment, not a peep.

      The program is getting worse again. I now have people who are waiting over a year and a half to find out if they're going to be approved for the Prov­incial Nominee Program. It's completely unacceptable and seems to be and NDP-in-gov­ern­ment pattern that's forming.

      It's disappointing that the only comment regard­ing children in care in the entire Throne Speech was that the gov­ern­ment is listening. The number of children in care in Manitoba has increased for the first time in several years from 8,919 to 9,172. There needs to be more, Hon­our­able Speaker.

      Inter­national student health care wasn't even men­tioned in the budget–or in the Throne Speech, Honour­able Speaker. The gov­ern­ment needs to realize how much inter­national students do for our province, how much they contribute, how other provinces have no problem ensuring that inter­national students have health-care coverage.

      In Manitoba, it's shameful. It is completely unaccept­­able, it is unfair and we are losing out on some in­cred­ible individuals because of this gov­ern­ment's decision to ignore inter­national students and break the promise that they made during the election.

      In closing, I only have about 30 more seconds, Hon­our­able Speaker. I did want to thank the gov­ern­ment for their tribute to Darius Hartshorne. Darius was a 17-year-old football player at Sisler High School who recently died from a football injury. Just at McDonald's this past Saturday, I ran into some of his friends who had just come from his funeral wearing his sweater. He was very, very loved in the com­mu­nity, and I think it was a good call to show support for his family and team by investing in a new scoreboard and bleachers in his memory.

      With those few comments, I'd like to thank you for the op­por­tun­ity to respond to the Throne Speech.

      Thank you.

The Speaker: Order, please.

      Before recog­nizing any other members, I must caution members that using names is not allowed. You have to refer to members by their con­stit­uency name, even if you're referring to yourself.

MLA Billie Cross (Seine River): I actually want to start by wishing my husband a very happy birthday. I love you. I will play this for you later so you can see that I gave you a shout-out, Stephen Cross.

      It's a privilege to rise today on behalf of the people of Seine River and respond to this year's Throne Speech. Two years ago, Manitobans didn't just vote. They sent a message to the last gov­ern­ment that Manitobans were done tolerating their neglect and their excuses. They said no more cuts, no more closures and no more being told to expect less, accept less and settle for less. Manitobans stood up together and said we deserve better. And, Hon­our­able Speaker, I'm proud to say they were right and we are doing better.

      Those families, workers, seniors, students didn't speak out of just anger alone. They spoke out of hope, hope that this province could be stronger, fairer, safer, more com­pas­sion­ate; hope that government could once again be a force for good; hope that the future could look different than the chaos, cuts and closures they lived through for seven and a half long years.

      Day after day as we sit in this Chamber, we honour that mandate, we honour their hope and we honour the work that lies ahead by delivering real, tangible progress.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, let us speak honestly about what the challenges were that we inherited, because only by acknowledging the truth can we ap­pre­ciate the  scale of the progress being made. The previous PC gov­ern­ment closed the only emergency room in south Winnipeg, an emergency room that served over 100,000 people, a decision that touched every corner of my con­stit­uency of Seine River, River Park South, St. Norbert and St. Germain-Vermette, families who suddenly had nowhere nearby to turn in the face of a crisis.

      Think about the fear: parents forced to drive across the city with a sick child in the back seat. Think about seniors who waited hours for care that used to be just minutes away. Think about nurses pushed beyond human limits, holding up the health-care system the last gov­ern­ment was tearing down.

      This wasn't unfor­tunate. It wasn't accidental. It was deliberate, and it hurt people. But, Hon­our­able Speaker, Manitobans chose a different path and we are delivering on it.

      Construction will begin shortly on the new Victoria ER, restoring emergency care to south Winnipeg for the first time in years. They closed it; we're reopening it. We have added over 3,500 net-new health-care workers province-wide, and more are coming.

      We have rebuilt trust with nurses and doctors by respecting the work that they do, and we will modern­ize care with digital health cards, a secure online patient portal and expanded prescribing author­ity so that families can get convenient, timely care at phar­macies and clinics close to home.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, this isn't patchwork; this is structural repair. This is rebuilding a health-care sys­tem from the ground up after years of deliberate damage, and families in Seine River feel that progress every single day.

      We're also acting on affordability because the cost pressures facing Manitobans are real. Under the last gov­ern­ment, hydro went up, rent went up, taxes went up and families were told to fend for them­selves.

      Under our gov­ern­ment the story is different. We froze hydro rates. We cut the gas tax. We lowered housing and rental costs. We supported parents with real savings. We helped seniors stay in their homes. We made life more affordable, not less.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, the PCs drove up bills. We are driving down costs.

      But the work does not end with affordability or health care. For too long, addiction and public safety were treated as political props rather than a human crisis. The last gov­ern­ment talked tough about crime, but delivered nothing for people in the grips of addiction. They ignored the root causes and ignored the people who needed the help the most.

      Well, we said that's not good enough, and unlike the last gov­ern­ment, we backed our words with action. We are creating a pro­tec­tive-care model that ensures people using meth are brought to safe, medically-supported spaces instead of to the ERs or jails. We are expanding detox and transitional housing so people have somewhere to go when they take that first step towards recovery. We are investing in wrap-around supports that will help people rebuild their lives, and we will support targeted en­force­ment to disrupt the meth supply chain that fuels the violence in our commu­nities.

      This is real action. This is real leadership. This is what it means to treat addiction like the complex health, social and com­mu­nity crisis it is. It's not a slogan for fundraising emails.

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      Hon­our­able Speaker, we are also making long due–long overdue invest­ments in our com­mu­nities that were ignored for far too long. And nowhere is that clearer than in my con­stit­uency of Seine River. For years, residents of St. Norbert fought to save the Lemay Forest, an im­por­tant greenspace that defines our com­mu­nity. The previous gov­ern­ment ignored them. They dismissed local voices, dismissed environ­­mental concerns, dismissed com­mu­nity advocacy. They chose not to listen. We have chosen to protect the Lemay Forest, and pretty soon, folks will be able to enjoy a brand new prov­incial park for gen­era­tions to come.

      Across the province, we're improving trans­por­tation infra­structure. We are investing in water and waste water support systems to support growing com­mu­nities. We are making neighbourhoods safer, more accessible and more resilient.

      Where the PCs shut out com­mu­nities, we are going to empower them. We do this because we believe in Manitobans. That is the clearest difference between this gov­ern­ment and the one that came before it. The PC gov­ern­ment didn't just lose trust; they abandoned Manitobans. They didn't believe in public workers. They didn't believe in public services. Time and time again, they proved that they didn't believe in the people they were elected to serve. We do.

      We believe in the families in River Park South working hard to build a better life. We believe in the seniors in St. Germain-Vermette who built this pro­vince through decades of con­tri­bu­tion and com­mu­nity service. We believe in the young people, our schools–in our schools who deserve op­por­tun­ity, not obstacles. We believe in workers, the nurses, the paramedics, the teachers, the farmers, the truck drivers, the small-busi­ness owners and the public servants who keep this province moving.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, the Throne Speech also reaffirmed a foundational commit­ment our gov­ern­ment has made: recon­ciliation.

      For the first time, the speech is being printed and published in Anishinaabemowin, as many times as in English and in French. As an Indigenous educator, a Métis woman and the MLA for Seine River, this matters profoundly to me.

      My com­mu­nity is home to schools, teachers and families who work every day to strengthen Indigenous edu­ca­tion and recon­ciliation. They understand that recon­ciliation begins with truth. It begins with language. It begins with creating space for Indigenous students and families to see their identity, their history and their future reflected in their classrooms, in their com­mu­nity and in their gov­ern­ment.

      Elevating Indigenous languages, especially Anishinaabemowin, tells the Indigenous youth in this province that their voices and cultures are part of the future we are building together.

      We're also working hard to strengthen edu­ca­tion for every student in Manitoba. This winter, construc­tion will begin on four new schools with 402 child-care spaces in River East Transcona School Division, Pembina Trails, Seven Oaks and in Brandon.

      With our updated English languid arch–language arts curriculum and the rollout of uni­ver­sal early-reading screening, we are ensuring that students have the tools they need to learn to read. With 800 new teachers in the classroom, new child-care spaces and our uni­ver­sal school food program, we are helping more students learn, grow and graduate. Our next step is reaching the students who are falling through the cracks with the new reach out, reach up program that will help schools improve 'intendance' and support students who need it the most.

      As we continue to listen to young people, their parents, educators and elders, this winter our first one Manitoba youth summit will give high school students the op­por­tun­ities to share their ideas and learn from local leaders who overcame challenges and helped to build this province.

      As an educator, these invest­ments are deeply meaning­ful to me, and I'm proud to speak about the progress our gov­ern­ment is making for students, teachers and families, not only in Seine River, but right across Manitoba.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, the PCs lost faith in Manitobans; we never will. That is why the contrast we face today is so stark, and so im­por­tant to articulate clearly and without apology. The PCs closed ERs; we are reopening them. The PCs drove nurses out; we are hiring them in record numbers. The PCs raised costs; we are lowering them. The PCs ignored addiction; we are delivering real solutions. The PCs shut out com­mu­nities; we are em­power­ing them.

      This is not just a different gov­ern­ment, it is a dif­ferent direction. And Hon­our­able Speaker, that direction matters. It matters for every family who struggled under the last gov­ern­ment. It matters for every senior who waited too long for care. It matters for every worker who felt undervalued. It matters for every com­mu­nity fighting for attention, for invest­ment, for dignity.

      Manitobans chose progress, and every single day, we are delivering that progress. We cannot go back. We will not go back, not to ER closures, not to hallway medicine, not to rising bills and shrinking services, not to a gov­ern­ment that forgot who it served.

      We are moving forward–forward with a new ER for south Winnipeg, forward with stronger health care, forward with safer com­mu­nities, forward with lower costs, forward with protected green spaces and for­ward with a gov­ern­ment that listens, acts and believes in the people of this province.

      We are not going back. We are going forward, together.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

Mrs. Kathleen Cook (Roblin): It's always such a privilege to get up in this House as the MLA for Roblin and to represent my con­stit­uents in this Chamber, and to speak on their behalf and to convey the priorities of the people of Charleswood and Headingley.

      And it's a privilege to get up today and speak in response to the NDP's Throne Speech, a Throne Speech that's rife with reannouncements and empty promises, promises that the NDP can't keep and, frankly, have no in­ten­tion of keeping. It's the same strategy they deployed during the 2023 election: say what they think people want to hear, don't worry about their ability to follow through, break those promises and, fingers crossed, hope for the best.

      And you don't have to take my word for it, Honour­able Speaker. Take the word of all the front-line health-care workers who have publicly shared their doubts and concerns about this gov­ern­ment's ability to keep those promises. For example, MAHCP president Jason Linklater, who said, quote: Without a credible human health resources plan, I think it's very unlikely that there's going to be success.

      And beyond just the empty promises, this Throne Speech fails to address the priorities of my constituents in Charleswood and Headingley. There are so many things missing from this Throne Speech that my con­stit­uents were hoping to hear.

      Number 1 on that list for many families in the com­mu­nity of Headingley is Phoenix School, and I'm sure everyone in this Chamber has heard me read petitions on this and ask questions on this, and that's on top of written correspondence to the minister direct­ly on behalf of my con­stit­uents. It is a very real issue.

      To recap: Phoenix School is in dire need of a renova­tion and expansion. It's bursting at the seams. A renovation project was approved by the previous gov­ern­ment. Work was under way. When the NDP came into power, what did they do? They cancelled it. And they have not given the school division any indication of when they can expect that project to proceed. It remains the No. 1 capital priority of the St. James-Assiniboia School Division.

      And this gov­ern­ment–calls itself a listening govern­ment–isn't listening at all. Very disappointing to see that missing from this Throne Speech.

      Closely related: daycare spaces. This is an issue that matters to so many young families in my con­stit­uency, families who rely on child care to get back to work. And this Throne Speech made it clear, there is no child care coming to Headingley or Charleswood under this NDP gov­ern­ment. It's in­cred­ibly disappointing.

      I take phone calls in my con­stit­uency office every week from parents who are des­per­ate, whose mater­nity or paternal–or, parental leaves are ending and they don't know how they're going to go back to work because they don't have child care; families who had infant or preschool spaces but can't secure school-aged child-care spaces, and now have to find spaces for their children in com­mu­nities far away. It's in­cred­ibly stressful for these families and in­cred­ibly dishearten­ing to see that we have an NDP gov­ern­ment that's not listening to them at all.

* (16:40)

      Affordability is the No. 1 concern for many of my con­stit­uents, and there was not a single affordability measure in this Throne Speech. This is the same NDP gov­ern­ment, let's not forget, that promised to crack down on grocery retailers if grocery prices didn't go down. The Premier (Mr. Kinew) was very tough. He shook his fist and said, oh, we're going to crack down on those grocery retailers.

      And now look where we are. Manitoba leads the country in food inflation. Families cannot afford to put groceries on their table. And we know that, because food bank usage in Manitoba is three times the national average, and my con­stit­uency is no exception to that. There are many families in Charleswood and Headingley that are struggling, Hon­our­able Speaker. And what is this gov­ern­ment going to do for them? They're going to do a study–a study. This is two years after they promised to bring grocery prices down. It's absolute nonsense.

      Crime is another issue that matters to the people of Charleswood and Headingley, and it's completely unaddressed in this Throne Speech. Let's not forget this is the same gov­ern­ment that said they were going to implement–somehow–implement bail reform in their first hundred days. How many days are we at now? Hundreds and hundreds of long, long terrible days of NDP gov­ern­ment, and no action on bail reform.

      Why? Because it's a federal respon­si­bility. He could never do it, but he said he could because he thought that's what people wanted to hear, and that's the pattern we're seeing from this Premier and from this NDP gov­ern­ment, and we're seeing it all over this Throne Speech. Business owners, many who live in my con­stit­uency, have been impacted by rampant crime.

      And residents of Charleswood and Headingley are deeply concerned from a safety perspective and from a humanitarian perspective about the homeless­ness crisis in our city. Homelessness has only gotten worse under the NDP. It's a very serious problem and the gov­ern­ment has not executed its strategy well.

      With the person in charge of the strategy quitting, pulling up stakes and leaving this gov­ern­ment after less than a year in the job, that is not a vote of confidence in this Premier or this Cabinet or their ability to actually end homelessness in the city like they promised to do.

      And now I want to talk about health care. We can't forget this is an NDP government that ran an election entirely on health care. They made wild, empty promises and have broken all of them, Hon­our­able Speaker. And this Throne Speech offers more of the same. It doesn't make any sense to me that before they've even met their previous commit­ments, now they're out there making a thousand more commit­ments that they have no in­ten­tion of keeping. There are so many failures on the health-care file by this gov­ern­ment, it's going to take me a few minutes to go through them.

      ER wait times in the city of Winnipeg are at a record high. They have gotten measurably, demonstrably worse under this NDP gov­ern­ment, and that's not even mentioned in the Throne Speech. There's nothing in this Throne Speech to address the fact that if you go to an ER in the city of Winnipeg right now, you will be waiting longer than ever before.

      And that's to say nothing of rural ERs. While the Premier (Mr. Kinew) was in here crowing about rural ERs in Carberry on Throne Speech day, guess what the–guess what was going in Carberry? The ER was closed. That was quite the juxtaposition.

      Diag­nos­tic wait times are higher under this NDP gov­ern­ment. The current wait for an MRI at Health Sciences Centre: 41 weeks. That's a long time, Honour­able Speaker. You'd think that this gov­ern­ment would look at some­thing like that and think, hmm, maybe we should expand MRI capacity in the province. Maybe we should look to a com­mu­nity that's getting a brand new hospital, that has space for an MRI and a com­mu­nity that's come forward with funding. I know where that is. It's Portage la Prairie.

      But there's nothing about a Portage la Prairie MRI in this Throne Speech, and I don't need to expound on that because I'm confident my colleague from Portage la Prairie will speak about that at length when he has a turn to address the Chamber.

      Surgical wait times are up under the NDP. The current wait time for a knee re­place­ment: 41 weeks. Cataracts in Brandon, you're now waiting 27 weeks; that's way up from seven weeks a year ago. Again, things are trending in the wrong direction.

      I was also very concerned that there was nothing in the Throne Speech to address home care, which is a disaster of the NDP's own making. To recap, earlier this year the NDP centralized home-care scheduling in the WRHA against the advice of front-line home-care workers. They dismissed those front-line workers' concerns when we raised them here in the Legislature; they said it was wrong, they said it was fear monger­ing and they forged ahead.

      The result: thousands of cancelled and missed visits. Then it got so bad that the Health Minister felt the need to go out onto the grand staircase and apologize, and promise to backpedal and fix all of the mistakes that they made. But nothing's been done, Hon­our­able Speaker.

      Those schedulers have not been repatriated to com­mu­nity offices. And even worse, I've spoken with home-care case co‑ordinators in the city who have told me there are hundreds of home-care clients in this city who have been assessed as needing home-care services and have been waiting up to 200 days for a visit from a home-care worker.

      This has implications for the whole of the home-care system. If people can't get discharged from hospital back to their home with the support of home care, guess what? They're stuck in the hospital. And then people in the ER can't move up to the wards. And then people in the ER waiting room can't get into the ER. This is an urgent problem that requires an urgent solution. And there is no urgency–nothing, not even any action from this NDP gov­ern­ment.

      HSC is still greylisted after three long months, and as we speak, nurses are voting on whether to grey­list Thompson General Hospital. It's no surprise; this is a Health Minister that's received a grade of D- from the Manitoba Nurses Union. In fact, the Manitoba Nurses Union's Grade Your Gov­ern­ment survey found most nurses reported no im­prove­ment, or worsening health care, under this gov­ern­ment.

      And one of the more egregious omissions from this Throne Speech is the lack of a credible staffing plan. It's been two years. There's absolutely no reason that the gov­ern­ment hasn't put forward some kind of plan to recruit, to retain and to train health-care staff, with measurable targets. Prairie Mountain Health has a 30 per cent vacancy rate for nurses–650 nursing vacancies in PMH. And yet–this is unbelievable–what did the Premier say? He said Manitoba has enough nurses.

      It defies belief, Hon­our­able Speaker. He's ready to hang up the mission-accomplished banner: we have enough nurses. No one agrees with him. Not nurses; not doctors; not allied health-care pro­fes­sionals; and certainly not Manitoba patients who are waiting longer than ever in Manitoba's emergency rooms, waiting longer than ever for surgeries and diagnostics. It's unbelievable that this Premier thinks there are enough nurses in Manitoba.

      And why did he say that? He was trying to justify new laws that are proposed in this Throne Speech, new laws that sound great on paper but are simply not credible. The key stake­holders that these promises are intended to benefit have publicly cast doubt on the NDP's ability to fulfill them.

      On the promise to end mandatory overtime, MNU president Darlene Jackson told the media: right now, we do not have enough nurses to actually make that happen. And until we are fully staffed, it's going to be very difficult to say no mandating. She also said: I would love, love, love nothing better than to see an end to mandating, but I don't think we're in a position now where we can legis­late an end and still have a functioning health-care system. That's very con­cern­ing for Manitoba patients.

      A Winnipeg Free Press columnist also said of the promised legis­lation, quote: Does a patient who waits 12 hours in an ER have recourse? Can someone who doesn't see their family doctor for months because there aren't enough in their region file a complaint that triggers an in­vesti­gation? If a hospital routinely runs short-staffed, does someone get penalized? Fired? Unquote.

      It's just proof upon proof that this legis­lation, these ideas put forward in this Throne Speech, have no teeth, no details, they're completely unworkable. They're just soundbites and slogans, and that has become the hallmark of this NDP gov­ern­ment.

      Manitobans deserve so much better. They deserve leadership, results and action and a dose of pragmatism. Rather than promising the world, promise what you can actually deliver. Create some targets, measure progress, be trans­par­ent about it. Instead, they got a throne speech full of promises that this NDP gov­ern­ment never intends to keep. Just like in the last election, when they promised the moon, and over the last two years have entirely failed to deliver. I am confident Manitobans will see through this facade.

      Certainly, on behalf of the con­stit­uents of Roblin, I say this Throne Speech fails to address the priorities of Manitobans.

      Thank you, Hon­our­able Speaker.

* (16:50)

Mr. Logan Oxenham (Kirkfield Park): It's truly an honour to be here today and to just, you know, go over Manitobans' feelings about our awesome Throne Speech, and I'm excited to share all the great things that our gov­ern­ment's doing to help people in Manitoba.

      You know, just over two years ago, Manitobans, they placed their trust in us, not just to govern, but to lead with dignity, compassion and purpose, and this year's Throne Speech is proof that we are carrying that mandate forward. We are fixing health care, we are making life more affordable, we're supporting young people and we're building a safer, stronger com­mu­nity across our province.

      And before I ever imagined standing in this Chamber, I worked as a juvenile correctional officer and counsellor, and that work showed me what happens when systems fail young people. And, Honour­able Speaker, there's not too many folks in this Chamber who has witnessed seeing a young person struggling, being high on methamphetamines, and it's really–it's heartbreaking to see, and I'm so proud to be part of a gov­ern­ment that recognizes that these folks need help, and we're taking action to move the needle on that.

      My journey has always been rooted in care: care for children, care for struggling families, care for people who feel unseen or unheard. And that work continues today, as I am the MLA for Kirkfield Park.

      And, you know, I'm–today, parti­cularly, being Transgender Day of Remembrance, I'm really aware of how privileged I am to stand here as a transgender man in a world that's actively persecuting transgender people. And so I feel like I have a respon­si­bility to share a little bit more about our Throne Speech and, you know, the fact that it really promotes people's freedoms, and people's freedoms to be who they are.

      Look at me, Hon­our­able Speaker. I'm the definition of freedom in this country. I get to live and be who I am as my authentic self every single day. And I don't take that for granted. I'm very, very fortunate.

      But, you know, in Manitoba, children are free to pursue gender-affirming care, and that is so im­por­tant. That's life-saving work. Decisions being made by patients with their families and with the advice of medical experts. Families don't need politicians in the room with them when they're making decisions about their children's future.

      Hon­our­able Speaker, I'm just so proud to represent Kirkfield Park, and I've met many families from Kirkfield Park, families from other com­mu­nities in Manitoba, who have family members who are trans, who are gender diverse. They exist in all corners of our province, and we can't pick and choose who we represent here. We were elected to represent all Manitobans, and that includes transgender Manitobans.

      And I'm so grateful to be led by a Premier (Mr. Kinew) who truly understands that: understands that, you know, affirming especially young persons' identity is life saving. It's life-saving work.

      And we're talking about health care, and in Kirkfield Park we have our Grace Hospital. It's not just a facility in Kirkfield Park; it really is the backbone of care in our com­mu­nity. And we–I live in Kirkfield Park, and I rely on that hospital. I even walked myself down to the emergency room about 10 years ago to have my gall bladder removed, so it was–it's very convenient.

      And it's a really great place, and the folks who work there, they have nothing but care for folks, and they're such a great team. They also have the ACCESS Winnipeg West, which is fantastic, and it now offers the extended hours primary-care clinic, which really, you know, takes some of that pressure off the emer­gency room at the Grace Hospital. So folks really do have options.

      Our gov­ern­ment is working hard to support Manitobans and the health-care workers who keep these sites running. And I've had many op­por­tun­ities to go to the Grace Hospital and speak with health-care workers, speak with the great folks at the Grace Hospital Foundation.

      And one thing that's very apparent is that they all really care deeply about the work that they do and they want to make sure that everyone that comes into their care experiences, you know, that compassion and experiences that level of care that we all expect. And I know that the folks, the good people at Grace Hospital, you know, whether they're cleaning the hallways, changing the beds or changing your IV, those folks are genuinely invested in helping other people. And it's just so evident when you go to that hospital.

      We'll–the extended hours primary-care 'clinit' at the ACCESS Winnipeg West, it's fully connected to the Grace Hospital and it's now open 365 days a year, Hon­our­able Speaker, including holidays, which is fantastic. It's staffed by registered nurses and nurse prac­ti­tioners who can diagnose and treat non-emergency medical issues for anyone in Manitoba that has a Manitoba health card.

      This clinic is provi­ding exactly what families in Kirkfield Park have been asking for: real options, real access and real relief.

      It means parents don't have to spend hours waiting at the Grace Hospital emergency room for a minor issue. It means seniors can see a health-care pro­fes­sional after regular clinic hours with­out delaying care. It means someone with a sore throat, a minor infection, a persistent cough or a sudden concern can receive treatment the same evening, not days or weeks later.

      And that's really–you know, it's good to know in the back of your mind, if some­thing goes wrong at home or wherever you are in the com­mu­nity, that you have a hospital that you can rely on and folks there are committed to your health care. Because good care shouldn't depend on timing and it shouldn't come at the cost of overwhelming emergency rooms.

      And I'm super proud, Honourable Speaker, to have talked to so many health-care workers who are excited about the 3,500 new health-care workers–nurses, doctors, paramedics–who show up every single day for us at our most vul­ner­able moments.

      Our gov­ern­ment is also supporting the workers inside the hospital: the nurses, doctors, support staff and paramedics who have been carrying this system on their backs for many years. I've met them at the doorstep, Hon­our­able Speaker. I've talked to them in person, and they are really relieved that they have a gov­ern­ment that's finally listening to them and taking their concerns seriously and not shutting them out.

      We esta­blished Manitoba's first-ever patient safety charter because safety shouldn't be some­thing workers have to fight for; it should be guaranteed. This matters in Kirkfield Park, Hon­our­able Speaker. Grace Hospital workers deserve dignity, respect and support. Patients deserve timely care and a safe environ­ment. And families deserve to know when they walk through those doors–whether for urgent care, diagnostics or follow-up treatment–they will receive the care that is reliable and accessible and truly a patient-centred process.

      And now we're making that access even easier with Medinav, a total game changer for folks here in Manitoba. Right at your fingertips, you can access booking an ap­point­ment with a physician or a nurse prac­ti­tioner, and it really is convenient for folks. Most of us are on our hand-held cellphone devices–I know a few folks across the way are always on them–and you can access that care, as opposed to going and sitting and waiting for potentially hours. So that's really awesome.

      Medinav lets Manitobans see same-day and next-day appointments at clinics across the province, and book at the time and a location that's really–works best for them, so they're not calling multiple clinics.

      No more hoping someone picks up the phone; just fast, convenient access to primary care, Hon­our­able Speaker. Medinav.

The Speaker: Order, please.

      When this matter is again before the House, the hon­our­able member will have 10 minutes remaining.

      The hour being 5 p.m., this House is adjourned and stands adjourned until 10 a.m. tomorrow



LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA

Thursday, November 20, 2025

CONTENTS


Vol. 3

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Introduction of Bills

Bill 2–The Non-Consensual Distribution of Intimate Images Amendment Act

Wiebe  37

Bill 210–The Criminal Trespassers Act and Amendments to The Occupiers' Liability Act

Johnson  37

Bill 215–The Wildlife Amendment Act

Wowchuk  38

Ministerial Statements

Restorative Justice Week

Wiebe  38

Balcaen  38

Members' Statements

Russell Cook Memorial Singers

Lathlin  39

Decor Cabinets and Elias Woodwork

Hiebert 39

Snow Angel Program

Kennedy  40

Holiday Events in Lac du Bonnet

Ewasko  40

Transgender Day of Remembrance

Oxenham   41

Oral Questions

Safe Consumption Site Location

Khan  41

Asagwara  42

Economic Development Plan for Manitoba

Khan  43

Asagwara  43

Energy-Intensive Industries

Khan  43

Asagwara  43

Manitoba's Economy

Khan  44

Asagwara  44

Constituent with Spinal Muscular Atrophy

Robbins 44

Asagwara  44

Affordability and Cost of Living

Stone  45

Sala  45

School Divisions

Ewasko  46

Schmidt 46

Education System

Ewasko  47

Schmidt 47

Education Property Taxes

Balcaen  47

Schmidt 47

Monitoring Food Inflation

Lamoureux  48

Asagwara  48

Cost of Living in Manitoba

Lamoureux  48

Sala  48

Development of Port of Churchill

Lamoureux  49

Sala  49

Paramedic Training Seats

Corbett 49

Asagwara  49

Manitoba's Economic Outlook

Narth  49

Moses 50

Speaker's Ruling

Lindsey  50

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Throne Speech

(Second Day of Debate)

Narth  52

Lamoureux  54

Cross 58

Cook  60

Oxenham   63